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Student Loan Forgiveness Act of (2012) H.R. 4170

 
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time to bailout the useless degree.... history, art and music etc... where are they going to find with these types of degrees ? and taxpayers are again on the hook for others' stupidity.
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I am so confused! You see, I have a useless, worthless degree in Music, and I have been gainfully employed in a fantastic, stable job, using said shitty degree, for over a decade. If you are curious, I have been able to pay on my graduate student loans (I never took a dime for my undergraduate education), along with my wife's undergraduate and graduate loans, without issue, using income earned from my frivolous, silly piece of paper most folks call a degree. I don't know what exactly "where are they going to find" means; I can only assume you meant "what type of job" History, Art, and Music majors can find with a degree in their fields of study. There are jobs out there for these degrees; it's up to the INDIVIDUAL to make himself employable in any industry. In summary, please STFU and have a nice day.
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I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves.
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"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer"

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you have to be stupid to take this offer its just selling yourself.... then again you could be cute
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Remember the name of that bill because It will change the world.

"Mr. CLARKE of Michigan introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To increase purchasing power, strengthen economic recovery, and restore fairness in financing higher education in the United States through student loan forgiveness, caps on interest rates on Federal student loans, and refinancing opportunities for private borrowers, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,"

Read all the goodies in the complete bill on the link.

[link to www.forgivestudentloandebt.com]

Please Pin and for once in your life contact your local representatives and TELL THEM TO SUPPORT THE BILL (or elseshark)
 Quoting: mems3





SCREW YOU!!!!! Pay your way like everyone else does!!!!!!! Broke dick!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Yeah fuck all the American born lazy ass fucks let's give Egypt another 10billion, oh don't forget the Isrealites they could use another 30 or 40 billion,

Fuck lets pay for illegals free education and everything else, fuck the lazy ass American born fucking slobs. Damn we sure could use a lot more prisons to just is not enough room for deadbeat lazy fucks in there anymore.

Lets just whip the fuck outta everyone.
 Quoting: GreyMatter


I am willing to bet anyone who is against this bill would be against every wasteful spending you outlined. And if you are against all of the things you mentioned but in support of this bill safe to assume you have student loan debt yourself.

To be against the wasteful spending where it does not benefit you, but agree with wasteful spending when it is a benefit to you personally would be the definition of "conflict of interest" and in the same bed with "special interest"

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I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves.
 Quoting: GreyMatter


"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer"

- Benjamin Franklin
 Quoting: Passin' Through


That has nothing to do with education, knowledge should not be an obstical for any one.
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09/04/2012 08:42 PM
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i'm a part of the student loan forgiveness movement...


for the win!


thank you....



for-profit schools are no longer as educating Humans should be free, donations accepted of course.
hugs for you:)
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I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves.
 Quoting: GreyMatter


Who will pay for it?
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I say raise taxes on the lower class and make them pay their loans back give all the interest from the loans to the feds give the higher class tax breaks. Then kill everyone.
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There's no solidarity in your country, it should be renamed to Divided States of America.

I will call it DSA from now on, there is no USA
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I say raise taxes on the lower class and make them pay their loans back give all the interest from the loans to the feds give the higher class tax breaks. Then kill everyone.
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Thats what is being done already.
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Maybe the illegals could pay for it talk about free loaders.
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Find and contact your representative here

[link to www.house.gov]
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I'm completely against such a perverted bill, asshole.
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I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves.
 Quoting: GreyMatter


Who will pay for it?
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A GOOD START would be to pay professors minimum wage.
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I am 100% behind this bill. I don't want to see ANYONE go through the fucking bullshit that I went through trying to better myself. Never EVER fucking again. EVER.

Free education for anyone willing to try.
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Find and contact your representative here

[link to www.house.gov]
 Quoting: mems3


Once again SCREW YOU!!! I will be calling my reps to vote this shit bill DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!
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Go die painfully you old fuckstick. Once again FUCK YOU.
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I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves.
 Quoting: GreyMatter


Who will pay for it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23195266



A GOOD START would be to pay professors minimum wage.
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Good luck with that
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I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves.
 Quoting: GreyMatter


The funny part is it is free ohno... all the knowledge you ever need is already at your finder tips
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There is a reason credit card company’s target students and it is the same reason congress repealed FFELP. People blindly look at this and are foolish enough to think the "government" is trying to help them when the reality of the situation is truly grave for our children if we let them do this.

You are already required to apply for FAFSA by 99.9% of all schools no matter how much money you have to pay for your education.

Student loans are $125 billion dollar a year industry that the government runs as a monopoly! They are not being nice, they are planning ahead, years ahead.

This is about debt slavery that can never be paid back because they "forgave" your debt but they will never forgive your children’s debt.

They know forgiving your debt will make them LOTS more money in the long run.

You are being set up!
 Quoting: Chrit


Nice job Chrit...

I wish more people would start connecting the dots and seeing the 'system' for what it is....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


This is meant to raise tuition costs so as to in the future force people to have to take out loans to pay for schooling.

Every single year tuition goes up automatically based on the amount of student aid available. If the government offers 8% more next year then tuition will go up 8%

People have to realize schools raises the tuition every year to take the extra government money finical aid offers. You are being set up, once the debt is wiped there will be a run on the schools and prices will skyrocket even higher & this is exactly what they want to happen.



Wait till you see the new interest rates on future student loans if they do this.
 Quoting: Chrit


After I saw this post I stopped reading. Why? Because you sir, nailed it. Unfortunately, people don't seem to understand this concept. Its the same thing that's happening with medical costs. Anytime the government guarantees to pay a certain amount, guess how much the (school, hospital, business, etc.) is going to charge for that service?
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Trying to educate people, I appreciate the bumps.

Funny how people are carful and worry everyone is out to screw them till they hear “debt forgiveness” then the blinders go on and they somehow think they will end up on top. But the truth must be known before it is too late. There is no such thing as a free lunch, when they offer you one there is always a catch.

Very sad.
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09/04/2012 08:56 PM
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I read the Act. It looks like another win for the banks. A person only qualifies if their income is no more than 50% above the poverty line. Then that person has to pay 1/12 of 10% of their loan each month. If they miss a payment, they pop out of the program and go back into regular payments. The problem is that people who make just above the poverty limit are very, very financially unstable, with low level jobs that don't last ten years. I predict 99.9% of the people who apply will fail. Failure means that all the payments made become purely interest. So in the end, the person who applies under the program is worse off. Another bad deal for the student, good deal for banks. In the end, as I have always said, don't borrow money to go to school. If you can't afford it in this country - move.
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Remember the name of that bill because It will change the world.

"Mr. CLARKE of Michigan introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To increase purchasing power, strengthen economic recovery, and restore fairness in financing higher education in the United States through student loan forgiveness, caps on interest rates on Federal student loans, and refinancing opportunities for private borrowers, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,"

Read all the goodies in the complete bill on the link.

[link to www.forgivestudentloandebt.com]

Please Pin and for once in your life contact your local representatives and TELL THEM TO SUPPORT THE BILL (or elseshark)
 Quoting: mems3


Hell yes. I'm sorry for all you anal retentives that don't think that the country should pay for educating the children, but I do. We had 12 years of free education for the children of America since the 30's or 40's and now it's time to step up the program to include college or votech. At the same time, I would also lower the funds available to schools and to teachers because they are overpaid.
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I am 100% behind this bill. I don't want to see ANYONE go through the fucking bullshit that I went through trying to better myself. Never EVER fucking again. EVER.

Free education for anyone willing to try.
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Your free education will be worth exactly what you paid for it, nothing.
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves.
 Quoting: GreyMatter


The funny part is it is free ohno... all the knowledge you ever need is already at your finder tips
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8473155


But that doesn't earn you a degree, does it??? You can challenge a course... but you're still gonna have to pay for it.
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Those of you that are for this, have NO IDEA how the real world works, especially GOVERNMENT. There is NO such thing as a 'free' ride.

This is a power play, a control mechanism, and worst of all, yet another tool for the ENSLAVEMENT of our progeny.

Please, PLEASE try to pull yourself out of the chemical fog for a moment and use critical thinking.

"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you"

The above words should strike terror in the hearts of all within earshot.
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Pay your bills, you signed you pay. Forgiveness means tax payers will pay.Oh hell no.
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There's no solidarity in your country, it should be renamed to Divided States of America.

I will call it DSA from now on, there is no USA
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Very Perceptive.
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Remember the name of that bill because It will change the world.

"Mr. CLARKE of Michigan introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To increase purchasing power, strengthen economic recovery, and restore fairness in financing higher education in the United States through student loan forgiveness, caps on interest rates on Federal student loans, and refinancing opportunities for private borrowers, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,"

Read all the goodies in the complete bill on the link.

[link to www.forgivestudentloandebt.com]

Please Pin and for once in your life contact your local representatives and TELL THEM TO SUPPORT THE BILL (or elseshark)
 Quoting: mems3


Hell yes. I'm sorry for all you anal retentives that don't think that the country should pay for educating the children, but I do. We had 12 years of free education for the children of America since the 30's or 40's and now it's time to step up the program to include college or votech. At the same time, I would also lower the funds available to schools and to teachers because they are overpaid.
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Why don't you take a pay cut to pay for it since you're such a giving person? It's always easy when somebody else has to pay for it, isn't it?
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sorry, it makes me sad too. The DSA is important for the whole world and a divided country is weak.
If it comes to a civil war in the DSA Russia & China will definitively take over
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I am 100% behind this bill. I don't want to see ANYONE go through the fucking bullshit that I went through trying to better myself. Never EVER fucking again. EVER.

Free education for anyone willing to try.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1148772


Your free education will be worth exactly what you paid for it, nothing.
 Quoting: Chrit


That's because most of your Ivy Leaguers are paying for those job 'connections' that come AFTER they graduate with honors.
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Education is free for all. If Whitey is stupid enough to try to charge people for it thinking that this will sustain his 'power' - while giving people loans with the same end in mind - screw em - and screw those loser slaves who actually believe their lies and 'pay back their loans'.

Debt is perpetually forgiven.

Starve the White parasite.
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Screw this! (And I am a Dem/teacher)

Total bullshit.

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