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Kali Yuga (Age of Deterioration)

There were many rumours that kaliyuga would end by 2000. Now, also there are many rumours that, we are at the end of the kaliyuga, and there are so many people publicizing themselves as Kalki. This is absolutely not true. These rumours were created by the so-called astrologers, swamis for their personal benefit. Kaliyuga started just 5100 years back, and it takes 4,26,900 years more to complete, and Kalki will come at the end of this yuga. All the so called kalkis are only bogus people, they are NOT Gods.

Yugas

There are four yugas, namely Kritha yuga, Tretha yuga, Dwapara yuga, and Kali yuga. Kali yuga spans 4,32,000 years. Dwapara yuga spans twice as of kali yuga, Tretha yuga spans thirce as of Kali yuga, and Kritha yuga spans four times as of Kali yuga.

Yuga Time Period
Kritha Yuga 17,28,000 years
Tretha Yuga 12,96,000 years
Dwapara Yuga 8,64,000 years
Kali Yuga 4,32,000 years


All the four yugas combined together is called Maha Yuga. One maha yuga comprises of 43,20,000 years. 1000 maha yugas are equivalent to the day of the Brahma. Brahma's night is also of the same time. Brahma's one day is equivalent to 864,00,00,000 years. Brahma's one second is equivalent to 1,00,000 years on earth. Brahma lives like this for 100 years, and the entire life time of brahma is equivalent to one breath of Sri Maha Vishnu. When Sri Maha Vishnu exhilirates, the entire world is created, and when he annihilates the entire world is destroyed. The timespan between his exhiliration and annihilation is equivalent to 100 years for Brahma.

Kali yuga started the day Lord Krishna left for spiritual world from this material world. It was around 5100 years back, and it takes 4,26,900 more years for kaliyuga to complete. At the end of the kali yuga, when there is no dharma, Kalki will come and kill all bad people. All the present kalkis are only bogus people, and they are not Gods.


UNIVERSE OVERVIEW

Excluding the Paradise-Havona spheres, the plan of universe organization provides for the following units:

Superuniverses.................................... 7
Major sectors.................................... 70
Minor sectors.................................. 7,000
Local universes ................................ 700,000
Constellations............................... 70,000,000
Local systems .............................. 7,000,000,000
Inhabitable planets ......................... 7,000,000,000,000

Each of the seven superuniverses is constituted, approximately, as follows:

One system embraces, approximately................... 1,000worlds
One constellation (100systems) .................... 100,000worlds
One universe (100constellations).................. 10,000,000worlds
One minor sector (100universes) ................ 1,000,000,000worlds
One major sector (100minor sectors)............. 100,000,000,000worlds
One superuniverse (10major sectors)............ 1,000,000,000,000worlds

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DEFINITION

There are seven superuniverses in the grand universe, and they are constituted approximately as follows:

1. The System.

The basic unit of the supergovernment consists of about one thousand inhabited or inhabitable worlds. Blazing suns, coldworlds, planets too near the hot suns, and other spheres not suitable for creature habitation are not included in this group. These one thousand worlds adapted to support life are called a system, but in the younger systems only a comparatively small number of these worlds may be inhabited. Each inhabited planet is presided over by a Planetary Prince, and each local systemhas an architectural sphere as its headquarters and is ruled by a System Sovereign.

2. The Constellation.

One hundred sys-tems (about100,000inhabitable planets) make up a constellation. Each constellation has an architectural headquarters sphere and is pre-sided over by three Vorondadek Sons, the Most Highs. Each constellation also has a Faithful of Days in observation, an ambassador of the Paradise Trinity.

3. The Local Universe.

One hundred con-stellations (about 10,000,000 inhabitable plan-ets) constitute a local universe. Each local universe has a magnificent architectural head quarters world and is ruled by one of the co-or-dinate Creator Sons of God of the order of Michael. Each universe is blessed by the pres-ence of a Union of Days, a representative of the Paradise Trinity.

4. The Minor Sector.

One hundred local universes (about1,000,000,000 inhabitable planets) constitute a minor sector of the superuniverse government; it has a wonderful headquarters world, wherefrom its rulers, the Recents of Days, administer the affairs of the minor sector. There are three Recents of Days, Supreme Trinity Personalities, on each minor sector headquarters.

5. The Major Sector.

One hundred minor sectors (about 100,000,000,000 inhabitable worlds) make one major sector. Each major sector is provided with a superb headquarters and is presided over by three Perfections of Days, Supreme Trinity Personalities.

6. The Superuniverse.

Ten major sectors (about 1,000,000,000,000inhabitable planets) constitute a superuniverse. Each super universe is provided with an enormous and glori-ous headquarters world and is ruled by three Ancients of Days.

7. The Grand Universe.

Seven super universes make up the present organized grand universe, consisting of approximately seven trillion inhabitable worlds plus the architectural spheres and the one billion inhabited spheres of Havona. The superuniverses are ruled and administered indirectly and reflectively from Paradise by the Seven Master Spirits. The billion worlds of Havona are directly administered by the Eternals of Days, one such Supreme Trinity Personality presid-ing over each of these perfect spheres.

Source: Urantia Book

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There were many rumours that kaliyuga would end by 2000. Now, also there are many rumours that, we are at the end of the kaliyuga, and there are so many people publicizing themselves as Kalki. This is absolutely not true. These rumours were created by the so-called astrologers, swamis for their personal benefit. Kaliyuga started just 5100 years back, and it takes 4,26,900 years more to complete, and Kalki will come at the end of this yuga. All the so called kalkis are only bogus people, they are NOT Gods.

Yugas

There are four yugas, namely Kritha yuga, Tretha yuga, Dwapara yuga, and Kali yuga. Kali yuga spans 4,32,000 years. Dwapara yuga spans twice as of kali yuga, Tretha yuga spans thirce as of Kali yuga, and Kritha yuga spans four times as of Kali yuga.

Yuga Time Period
Kritha Yuga 17,28,000 years
Tretha Yuga 12,96,000 years
Dwapara Yuga 8,64,000 years
Kali Yuga 4,32,000 years


All the four yugas combined together is called Maha Yuga. One maha yuga comprises of 43,20,000 years. 1000 maha yugas are equivalent to the day of the Brahma. Brahma's night is also of the same time. Brahma's one day is equivalent to 864,00,00,000 years. Brahma's one second is equivalent to 1,00,000 years on earth. Brahma lives like this for 100 years, and the entire life time of brahma is equivalent to one breath of Sri Maha Vishnu. When Sri Maha Vishnu exhilirates, the entire world is created, and when he annihilates the entire world is destroyed. The timespan between his exhiliration and annihilation is equivalent to 100 years for Brahma.

Kali yuga started the day Lord Krishna left for spiritual world from this material world. It was around 5100 years back, and it takes 4,26,900 more years for kaliyuga to complete. At the end of the kali yuga, when there is no dharma, Kalki will come and kill all bad people. All the present kalkis are only bogus people, and they are not Gods.
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kali yuga ended in feb 2012 ya fuckwad

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kali yuga ended in feb 2012 ya fuckwad

feel free to copy paste more generic fractions

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bs!! this is the very end of kali yuga!! ignorant prick!!
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I think what you are quoting in terms of the length of the Yugas is incorrect. Not that you got it wrong but those you are quoting did. Sri yuktaswar's book aptly points this out. He explains the yugas more in line with more common ages and cycles we see represented in other ancient cultures. Perhaps you might want to check it out. I believe the book is called the Holly science. He was one of Yogananda's teachers and give a good explanation as to the the mistakes crept into the various translations about the Yugas in regard the length of time they cover. sk

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bs!! this is the very end of kali yuga!! ignorant prick!!
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Wasn't the Urantia book formed from 20th century 'channeled' material??? How is this dating expected to be precise? Sounds a whole lot more like an opinion rather than a statement of fact.

Also, I don't understand the use of commas in the initial numbers of your post.

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Wasn't the Urantia book formed from 20th century 'channeled' material??? How is this dating expected to be precise? Sounds a whole lot more like an opinion rather than a statement of fact.

Also, I don't understand the use of commas in the initial numbers of your post.
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The numbering system in India is different than in US. So, the commas are separated for every two digits after the initial 3. (i.e. 1,00,00,000 instead of 10,000,000).

Hope that clarifies.
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I think what you are quoting in terms of the length of the Yugas is incorrect. Not that you got it wrong but those you are quoting did. Sri yuktaswar's book aptly points this out. He explains the yugas more in line with more common ages and cycles we see represented in other ancient cultures. Perhaps you might want to check it out. I believe the book is called the Holly science. He was one of Yogananda's teachers and give a good explanation as to the the mistakes crept into the various translations about the Yugas in regard the length of time they cover. sk
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this^^

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Even if we were in a 'major' kali yuga period - I thought we were entering a mini golden age, which would last about 10,000 years or so.
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Even if we were in a 'major' kali yuga period - I thought we were entering a mini golden age, which would last about 10,000 years or so.
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A special 10,000 year period within Kali Yuga
The Brahma Vaivarta Purana mentions a ten thousand year period, starting from the traditional dating of the Kali Yuga epoch of January 14, 3102 BC/BCE, during which bhakti yogis will be present.[8]

Lord Krishna foretold that Kali Yuga will be full of extreme hardships for people with ideals and values.

A special 10,000 year(Golden Age) period within Kali Yuga only in this Maha Yuga Cycle.

In the Brahma-vaivarta Purana has words spoken by Lord Krishna to Mother Ganga just before the beginning of Kali yuga (the age of quarrel and strife). Kali yuga began approximately five thousand years ago, and it has a duration of 432,000 years, leaving us with 427,000 till the end of the present age. Within this 432,000 year period, there is a period of 10,000 years that will be a golden age. That golden age is being described below by Lord Sri Krishna.

Predicted in Brahma-vaivarta Purana 4.129. The fourth part of the Brahma-vaivarta is called Krsna-janma-khanda. Chapter 129 is called Golokarohanam, because it describes how Krishna returns to His abode. This specific dialogue is between Lord Krishna and Mother Ganga. Verse 49 is a question by Ganga, verses 50-60 are Lord Sri Krishna's answer.

This text is taken from the Brahma-vaivarta Purana [14]

Text 59:

kaler daSa-sahasraaNi
madbhaktaaH saMti bhu-tale
ekavarNaa bhaviSyaMti
madbhakteSu gateSu ca
"For 10,000 years of Kali such devotees of Mine will be present on earth. After the departure of My devotees there will be only one varna [outcaste]."


The above is supported in 4.90.32-33:

kalau dasa-sahasrAni
haris tiSThati medinI
devAnAM pratimA pUjyA
sAstrANi ca purANakam
"(Sri Krsna said:) Lord Hari will stay on this earth for the first ten-thousand years of Kali-yuga. Till then gods will be worshipped and the Puranas and scriptures will also be present."

The great Vaishnava Saint Chaitanya Mahaprabhu exhorted, "Krishna Nama Sankirtan" i.e. the constant chanting of the Lord's name is the supreme healer in this age. It destroys sins and purifies the hearts through Bhakti ensures universal peace.
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the change in me, and many others, is proof it's ending now..

Folks are waking up, not only to our dire geo political situations, but spiritually
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As pointed out by Sri Yukteswar, in many Sanskrit texts the 12,000 year duration of the Yuga Cycle was artificially inflated to an abnormally high value of 4,320,000 years by introducing a multiplication factor of "360", which was represented as the number of "human years" which constitutes a "divine year". However, certain texts, such as the Mahabharata and the Laws of Manu, still retain the original value of the Yuga Cycle as 12,000 years. Many other ancient cultures -- the Chaldeans, Zoroastrians and Greeks -- also believed in a 12,000 year Cycle of the Ages. The renowned Sanskrit scholar and nationalist leader of India, B.G.Tilak had mentioned in his book, The Arctic Home in the Vedas (1903), that:

"The writers of the Puranas, many of which appear to have been written during the first few centuries of the Christian, era, were naturally unwilling to believe that the Kali Yuga had passed away... An attempt was, therefore, made to extend the duration of the Kali Yuga by converting 1000 (or 1200) ordinary human years thereof into as many divine years, a single divine year, or a year of the gods, being equal to 360 human years... this solution of the difficulty was universally adopted, and a Kali of 1200 ordinary years was at once changed, by this ingenious artifice, into a magnificent cycle of as many divine, or 360 X 1200 = 432,000 ordinary years."[1]

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I find that common sense would suggest that the duration of the Yugas being hundreds of thousands years long, looses all meaning for everyone living today. But if its like Sri yuktiswar suggests more in line with the progression of the sun through the zodiac, and the ages it that it represents it has relevance to people of every age. The Golden age is a ways off but with the energies now coming into the planet we are seeing an end to the Kali and the age of Pisces.

It is also evident that a golden age existed only about 10,000 to 13,000 years ago, which would put us at the end of the downward cycle and moving once again toward another golden age. a golden age ending 10,000 to 13,000 hardly correlates with the large time frames of the Yugas as some would represent them. I tend to go with SRI on this one. sk
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I remember that the Veda describes the Yugas as very long cycles like you suggest, but that the Urantia Book presented much larger numbers like you present, but that the figures in the Urantia Book are not the same as the Vedic numbers, and furthermore there appears to be no casual or intentional relation between the Urantia Book and the Vedas.

The Urantia book is simply an enormous mysterious manuscript found in a Chicago bus depot decades ago, and it's contents have no real equal in the world of esoteria.

I agree that we are in Kali Yuga, but in terms of prophesies and predictions in general, one finds that predicted time-lines, and what that means to each one of us personally to be the most variable issue of all.

That is because real prophesies work in a metaphoric and fractal like way with reflections of the prophesy taking place on different levels, from the microscopic to the macroscopic, from the collective to the individual. So lets say that the prophesy applies to a certain population over a given time span, but if the singular "I" really understands the prophesy in a profound way and been touched by it personally, then it might also apply to events and places in my very own short life span. Just as an example, but that is how intuition and prophesy work, finding reflection in allegory in the waking dream we call reality.

The Vedas, and to some extent the Urantia book, reflect this fractal, "as above, so below", and cycles within cycles nature of reality too.

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The true reality of our nature and possibilities as souls transcends all yugas, prophecies and fates. That is because our ability of singular attention, known as "I", or am-ness, is a vehicle to travel to any yuga or any place.

To explain that more simply, let's say we have a fractal universe of black and white, heaven and hell. Since it is fractal, even in the purest part of heaven one will find tiny specks of hell and their form, and in hell one will find the tiniest specks of heaven, and their form, and by merely setting ones attention on one or the other, one travels to those other realities.

Likewise our personal souls bypass the supposed yugas of society, because we each personally only have short lifespans. We are not the supposed mythic history before or after our lives, it does not exist in effect. And at the period between lives we transition to whatever world or whatever yuga that most suits us. The true exploratory and traveling nature of awareness bypasses yugas and time-lines, except our own.

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You must understand the kalchakra tanra time code to get a clearer view of the confusion around the vedic calender. Like the conch shell there is a decending arc with time in this realm. It is close to the zero point now.
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You must understand the kalchakra tanra time code to get a clearer view of the confusion around the vedic calender. Like the conch shell there is a decending arc with time in this realm. It is close to the zero point now.
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All Beliefs,
All Religions,
All common ways of Western Thinking,

All these ideas and memes exert a tremendious effort to convince you of a lie.

The lie is, is that reality or the universe is something more than your very own being, your very own awareness.

It isn't.

All the hypotheticals that you think go on beyond your four walls, and the things you think that might occur after you die,.... simply are not part of real reality, they don't exist.

This lie is perpetuated to convince you that you are not in control of your reality.

The fact is that you do control your reality with your attention. Your bounds are only that of your attention. You are the only one who is really in control of that.
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To me, it doesn't matter when it started or when it ends. The problem is we live in the kali yuga now.

It is going to get worse before it gets better.

Where does the coming of the Shambala warriors fit into this?
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To me, it doesn't matter when it started or when it ends. The problem is we live in the kali yuga now.

It is going to get worse before it gets better.

Where does the coming of the Shambala warriors fit into this?
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That is the paradox. For the worse it gets the better it gets, as it promotes one to begin to question, which leads to greater understanding, etc etc etc. sk
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take your poodoo and shove it back in your meathole ... srry.

There is a reason why many groups of ancients were anticipating this great time ... they all knew this this cycle in the wheel of wheels was coming to a completion...
It just seems impossible right now because we are at phase transition of timewave zero ... a cosmic crescendo ... the storm before the calm ...

everyone knew it / knows it.. and your trying to create a self fulfilling prophecy using the world as you poodoo doll ...

We are not subject to these games anymore ...


Maya or Māyā (Sanskrit माया māyāa[›]), in Indian religions, has multiple meanings, usually quoted as "illusion"...

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No, I didn't say the worse it gets the better it gets. What I meant is it is getting worse and worse and it is not getting better until the worst of the worst is over. It is not getting better right now except for a few.
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sorry about the poodoo thing ...

The end of kali yuga is the hope for humanity and it's path; that is trying to be re-routed... touchy subject.

hope you accept the apologies for the harsh rebuttal ... this one bugs me when people / groups try do and say this...
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No, I didn't say the worse it gets the better it gets. What I meant is it is getting worse and worse and it is not getting better until the worst of the worst is over. It is not getting better right now except for a few.
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That is your attitude and projection.

More precisely it is a set of labels that you have come up with to interpret your sensory data at best.

Your reality is all that exist at the end of the day.

Your entire day is composed of choices you make, about your attitude and reactions you make.

If you choose to moan and paint the world black, that is your choice. This has nothing to do with your circumstances and common perceptions of what is good and bad, pleasurable or uncomfortable. Just because someone adopts other peoples interpretations of sensory input, does not mean that it was not their decision to do so.

Reality is indeed Fractal, and we immediately start to drift wherever we put our attention, and different states of awareness are not that far away.

When liberated through sleep, death, or loss of "waking" awareness, then the self or I'ness becomes truly fluid, and can even travel to other yugas or times. But this is all based on choice, on choice of loci of attention.
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Shlemeezal, shlamazel, the truth will set you free.
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To me, it doesn't matter when it started or when it ends. The problem is we live in the kali yuga now.

It is going to get worse before it gets better.

Where does the coming of the Shambala warriors fit into this?
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they come after the appearance of fulford-ninjas
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Shlemeezal, shlamazel, the truth will set you free.
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Bullshit.

Only your attitude sets you free.

What you call "truth" I suspect, are implied ideas that you want others to adopt.

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Shlemeezal, shlamazel, the truth will set you free.
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Bullshit.

Only your attitude sets you free.

What you call "truth" I suspect, are implied ideas that you want others to adopt.
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echati, I think you should be eshitty
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Look here.

Focus on "this" Truth. (anything at all)

Notice how it expands in your field of attention.


I don't know about you, but as for me, I am 52 years old.

Right outside my door, now, today, is the most perfect climate, the most beautiful countryside, and the most kind and tranquil people who I have ever known in my life. Plus the simple requirements for living for me are about as easy as they have ever been in all of my adult years.

But I have lived in infinitely more hellish places than most anyone experiences in their lives too, and all along, a correct attitude is all that matters.

So that now when by all respects I am living about as happy as can be on earth, I am able to understand, realize, see, and actually live this reality, because I also learned that I am responsible for my attitude under hellish circumstances too. So if I can be happy and innerly content in hell, then when I am in heaven, then my eyes are open, and I am not a regular whining complaining ball of shit, like most people.

In the short run we control little, but we do control the drift through our foci of attention, which is our attitude, and in the long run we direct the fundamental dreamlike nature of waking reality, which only exists because of awareness attention at it's fundamental base.
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Re: Kali Yuga is not ending anytime soon.
You, WindyMind, are pushing an agenda.

Last Edited by ehecatl on 09/05/2012 03:30 PM

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