Kali Yuga is not ending anytime soon.

Wow I am surprised to read that.... I've been thinking/saying the same thing lately - just told someone that last night.... Reversing the normal expression in just the manner that you did.... It resonates with me....

The OP is correct! (as confirmed in The Treatise on Cosmic Fire by Alice A. Bailey)

What is the authors reasoning for this conclusion? Did she also reference the Urantia book?

Alice Bailey the master of deceit.

When as she says there are the seven planes, each containing 7 subplanes and the corresponding colors are red, green , gold, blue, yellow, brown, pink, purple and silver. But of course these and blinds, and not the real colors at all, as the imformation is for initiates only. ROFL need I say more. Possible one of the first channels that became well know and full of Belief Systems. sk

I am not saying that I don't perceive problems during this Kali yuga and at times try to do things to "help", but beyond that I am really just a detached spectator, only here in this incarnation for my amusement at times it seems,

...that being when I am around people are subconsciously or consciously working to reinforce the lie that forms their own false prison bars, and all for their own lack of understanding about their fundamental own role when it comes to their own definitions of their place in reality.

FAIL

I'm an Observer too. Life is short and unpredictable and to me, it's just a temporary learning experience. No sense in getting too attached to anything! : )

My Mom actually bought me that book about 42 years ago. It put me to sleep. lol sk

...and when I was in my early 20's I bought the whole hardcover set of Alice Bailey's books because they looked like the holy grail of esoteric truths. Man, I had this idea that these books would stay with me for the rest of my life. Boy was I wrong.

maybe they were the holy grail of truths, I'll never know, because I was busy having fun, meditation, getting stoned with friends, trips to the wilderness and other things, and hell, it would waste a whole lifetime reading those books.

so a few years I took off on road trips that would lead me away from home for years and to other parts of the world.

left the books behind of course, I don't know what happened to them or many others. The few things I have from the early part of my life are by pure accident.

however in those later years where I had mobility, because I was not carrying those damn Alice Bailey books around with me, along with about a hundred pounds of other religious and esoteric books.

So in those later years I lived in ashrams and did power plants with the Indians, and I experienced first hand that thing about states of consciousness being related to colors.

So now, thanks to not having the Bailey books, I have the very best first hand knowledge of truths in those books.

Because an ounce of first-hand knowledge is worth a kilo of intellectual crap. In fact the intellectual crap will kill the innocence and take the interest of new personal discovery.

I know a powerful witch here who is illiterate and can suck a person into her dream world and hold them there at will. She did it to me in the middle of the day when I was wide awake and standing up. Now that is power, and she has never read a book in her life.

go figure.

I had the Urantia book too, it weighs about ten pounds and the thousands of pages are thin like rice-paper, and it got lost likewise.

The thing about the Urantia book is that if you set it next to the toilet, you just might read it. (course in a time of crises you might tear off the pages for wipe too)

But I could never see reading the thing casually on the internet. Computers are great for looking up a particular passage, but you've got to have books physical and in your hands if your are really going to read them through and through.

However sometimes it is just hard to find certain books in foreign countries.

Hey SK, did you receive those files I sent you, and did they open?

Last Edited by ehecatl on 09/05/2012 08:01 PM

By Indians I assume you were referring to Native American tribes? Which tribe were you associating with? What was the most important thing you took away from those experiences? I have always been fascinated by and drawn to Native American cultures. I don't have any first-hand experience, at least not from this lifetime. If by Indians you meant those from India, my apologies for the confusion.

My local people are Matlazincas which were a main branch of central Aztec empire. Due to the proximity to Mexico City most of the Matlazinca culture has mixed 50/50 sort of into the Spaniard mestizo culture.

However in the remote mountains to the south of me are the Mazatec peoples. There is a beauty and love and innocence among these peoples unlike any culture I have known personally so far. As far as appreciating the climate, the remote native culture, the powerful spiritual leaders there and the unparalleled profound places they have taken me to with the help of their age old mushroom ceremonies, in my very limited life experience the Mazatec people rate tops, although I believe there are many groups like them around the world.

Here is a video of a trip there a few years ago, which does not do justice to the experience, but in a practical sense it is not easy or natural at least, to get permission to film people in these regions. The innocent guy showing the mushrooms is a respected curandero known throughout the republic -

Thanks for the heads up, I had to google that. I know nothing about Illuminatis and that's ok with me.

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Last Edited by WindyMind on 09/21/2012 08:22 PM

She is on her way back after she was put on hold for a year to give people the right to chose soon wr will know there choice. Hope they make the right one.if not we go. Back and have to do it all agin time will tell all kali workes for the creator. Let hope people make the righ desicion

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Beautiful landscapes.... That waterfall coming out of the cliff-side was awesome!

Regarding getting permission to film the natives from these reasons. Is their desire not to be filmed a reflection of their aversion to Western culture and symbols of that lifestyle? Or do they have traditional/spiritual beliefs that go against the capturing of one's spirit in that matter (on film). I recall from my past that there was some mention of Native American tribes not wanting to ever be photographed.

Did these indigenous peoples ever share any of their cultural prophecies with you? From the Aztecs? I am very interested in the 5th/6th World prophecies of the Maya, Aztec, and Hopi cultures. Admittedly I haven't done extensive research on this subject matter but it draws my interest greatly.

anytime

1st hand accounts......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:dal a lama:

The people in the little village pueblos of Oaxaca, and many of the more traditional native types in my pueblo too, have an accute sense of intuition. You know how you know when your mom's thinking of you, well these people feel that their intuition rivals telephone networks. But this only works well for the simple people who live in small villages and don't have many contacts.

That is because every time a person thinks of a sensitive person, they can feel it. However if there are many photos of a person out and many people thinking of them, then their intuition field gets much more complicated and schizophrenic, especially when the people who inadvertently think of them are from strange foreign lands with foreign ways of thinking. Some report this like they hear voices and think they are going crazy. For this reason the people who feel this way are ten times as emphatic to not allow their photo to enter the internet, which they dislike even more than photos.

However those who are already public seem to take a "what's the difference" attitude and allow photos.


Now...
If you think this sounds crazy,

I'd like you to imagine a hypothetical, that nice family photos were taken of your own children, and those photos were distributed to pedophiles to pleasure themselves to. Would that not bother you? Would your intuition not scream out at you that some sort of dirty psychic link were being created towards your children? If there is a link in that case, then there is a link in all cases.

People from the US or Canada come to Mexico sometimes with the idea that they can take photos into the public indiscriminately, but fools should beware, because some people would just assume that your are firing a machine gun into the crowd indiscriminately as taking photo shots without permission. It is a crime in Mexico and could land you in jail even.


As far as the various spiritual native leaders that I have been in contact with and their attitudes towards 2012, they all seem to share the same consensus, that it marks the end of a calendar with astrological significance, and indicates change in society when seen in the big picture, perhaps something gradual, but that there is no reason to think that doom or negative things will occur on that date.

As far as what these various spiritual leaders base their opinions on, I don't have a clue. Maybe they are just wanting to allay fears.

There is usually some decent conversation over coffee with the literate people.

The act of dreaming is diametrically opposed to reading. Most people are not able to read in their dreams, if only a short passage.

This bruja in particular has been in a semi-trance state for 20 years, and can hardly even care for herself. Her husband produces charcoal for a living cares for her. In the dream she drew me into though she was a very clear and intelligible speaker. In waking life she is mute.

Interesting in regards the issue of picture taking. I think it is something that most people can relate to also. When people think of you, because most don't acknowledge things that exist on an energy level, they have a tendency to move a portion of their energy into your space. And most are unaware enough to be able to use it for communication, but still find themselves thinking of that person.

It would also seem that one can open and close that gateway once he or she becomes aware on an energy level, thereby remaining uneffected by the energies of others. At least it has been my experience, when we take conscious control of our chakras and energy field, Auras , being able to open and close these energy centers at will. sk

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I am wondering why you are being nice to me?

Thanks.

"We" are not the world,
(rather the world is us, and that has a whole different meaning).

"We", did not go to the moon.

My life and your life in this physical time-line I presume will only maintain continuity of awareness context for a few more decades at best. Regardless of if there is an afterlife or not, once continuity has been severed, one is liberated from the effects of the time-line one was in and its yugas and all of its joys and problems.

....then.... a soul is born, somewhere, at any time, in any form, in any place in the whole universe. That soul will become a "reincarnation" of the previous existence, only if at some point in the new souls timeline, a link can be formed to the old soul. If not, it does not matter, then there was never a link in the first place. It does not matter if one timeline or soul is related to or is defined as one in the same as another at this point.

Sausages can be packed individually or in chains and can be equally yummy.

The only issue that matters is that liberation from a timeline occurred, that death occurred.

Between incarnations of soul-awareness-continuity-time-lines (life-forms), there is an empty space that does not contain matter, but contains potential, and fluid resolution, which also is equal and the same thing as travel. In this medium a wish is instantly fulfilled, but a wish can only occur if it is exactly what one needs and is ready for. An incarnation is a wish fulfilled.

We are only hooked into this timeline beyond our death if that is what we desire/need. If we have no previous lifetime memories that correspond with what we know of history, so much the better.

When one descends to "the depths of hell" in life on this earth, whatever that may mean, feeling trapped, being institutionalized, torture, whatever, in any such situation one is confronted with the fact that the only ultimate liberty that any soul has, is ones attitude.

In hell there are tiny specks of heaven, and in heaven there are tiny specks of hell, and those in those realms who focus on those specks and their forms drift towards those other realities.

So when one who has conquered being able to feel good about oneself in hellish conditions transitions to a situation where the climate is perfect and life is free and easy, then one is able to appreciate how good things really are.

But naturally one finds even in the most comfortable of environments, even among the richest people in the world, that those people who have not learned to find liberty from suffering through control of their attitudes, most people that is, tend to complain a lot and are usually blind to how good things really are for them.

They tend to focus on the specks of "hell" around them to the point where they expand in their attention, and they declare "But It's True!!!", as if an isolated truth were the only thing that matters.

I don't know WindyMind, but I am just guessing that you are not really all that bad off, I mean you manage to find a lot of time to spend on the computer after all. However you do seem only too willing to pick up the popular line of complaining of big things that are way beyond you, like the course of humanity, or if a yuga is 10,000 years or 100,000,000 years, or whatnot.

I know people who live in huts made of sticks and mud, and they are more or less equal in happiness and complaints as wealthy people I know.

That is why I suggest that you are pushing an agenda. It is a common agenda that most people push without even being aware of it. It occurs when people get together to complain about an infinity of far off events and minutia that don't even affect them, and in the mean time there is a beautiful and lovely day and life to be enjoyed right outside the door.

Or perhaps you are suffering terribly, being tortured somehow, and in that case it is imperative that you find the escape trap door, that you have ultimate control of your soul through finding the correct attitude.

Ma'cuallio'tli
nahuatl - May your path be blessed

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Let the agenda begin.......

[link to vajratool.wordpress.com]

The Hindu Goddess Kali and God Bhairava in Union

“The Buddhist tradition calls our time the kaliyuga, an era of increasing darkness, heaviness, disorder and friction. In symbolic terms it is said that aeons ago, beings had bodies of light, but over time, their embodiment grew more material and more dense.

[link to www.tibetanbuddhistaltar.org]


Furthermore, this is the time of Kaliyuga. And while Kaliyuga works against us, it also works for us, particularly when it comes to Vajrayana, in that of all the teachings that the Buddha has ever taught, of all the spiritual teachings that are available of any kind, Vajrayana teachings are the most perfectly suited for this time of Kaliyuga. This time of Kaliyuga is extremely contracted. Karma is thick. It isn’t spread out and dispersed over a great, long field. Rather, it is drawn in. It is a time of contraction, and karma ripens much more quickly than it used to ripen. This is not because you’re in Vajrayana but because this is the time for that. Experience is much more condensed; phenomena are much more condensed; time is much more condensed. You can look at your life; you can walk outside and see that this is not the same world from just a hundred years ago. It was much broader and spread apart. This is a result of the condensed quality of Kaliyuga, which will continue, and experience will become more compacted and more condensed, not less.


Now to continue my agenda or not to continue my agenda? The post started I think as hindu buddhist belief, I have added mahayana buddhism.

I don't know anything about Lord Krishna. I did see a group of Krishnas once singing and walking along. That was kind of cool. Hari, Hari.......

OMG ... I thought that was intense and disturbing.

Many rounds of suffering for many kalpas.

Wow, that was doomy.