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Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO) "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21943549 United States 09/05/2012 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS! |
phizzycyst User ID: 1445469 United States 09/05/2012 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549 I drove through a dark matter storm the other day...almost wrecked my damn car! Stuff is a nuisance, gets all over the sidewalks. Somebody needs to get rid of the stuff! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19045680 United States 09/05/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549 Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust. Want to try again ? |
Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549 Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust. Want to try again ? Yeah, he was way off. lol "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
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Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SS- you seemed to know a lot of things regarding our universe and giving us constant clue to "confused" people like me . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14841999 Can you pls let us know if you are referring to Paul Laviollete's superwave? Not in this instance. But, I think other things that we have discussed concerning fluff, and the giant magnetic fields, etc can be associated with the dr.'s work. But, it may be unrelated as well. The reason I say this, is that it is very 'dynamic' out there, and we don't know a whole lot. Laviolette has stated that the superwave may travel at the speed of light, therefor we would never see it coming, and could never have a warning of its coming because of it moving at light speed. That's different than the idea that magnetic field lines and electric charges are carrier waves of energy. But, it is all related as well. It is more of a matter of how anyone may be relating these things to whatever they may be influencing. Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 09/05/2012 10:55 AM "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
cosmicgypsy User ID: 20792968 United States 09/05/2012 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO) Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Do you know what was it related to before being related to magnetic fields? You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19045680 United States 09/05/2012 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549 Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust. Want to try again ? Yeah, he was way off. lol I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc. It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far. AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in. |
Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO) Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Do you know what was it related to before being related to magnetic fields? Some of the theories wrapped its cause and effect around gravity waves. Meanwhile, we cannot even detect a gravity wave. So, we can't detect gravity waves, we can't detect dark matter, and yet they think that this is what it is. I have always thought that it had to do with magnetic fields. Magnetism is invisible. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549 Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust. Want to try again ? Yeah, he was way off. lol I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc. It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far. AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in. I'll check it out. Damn, just did a search on Youtube for him. I think I will like him! "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19045680 United States 09/05/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc. It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far. AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in. I'll check it out. Damn, just did a search on Youtube for him. I think I will like him! His lectures are great ! He does : Quantum Mechanics, Statistical Mechanics, Cosmology, M-Theory, Quantum Entanglements, the Theoretical Minimum, SR and GR, plus a few others. He was also close friends with Feynman, and his lectures remind me of how well Feynman was at explaining difficult concepts, granted some of the more difficult math goes over my head, but most of it is easy to understand. On top of all that, he's a pretty funny guy. Here's two recent lectures that are nice and succinct Demystifying the Higgs Boson The Black Hole Wars |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21943549 United States 09/05/2012 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549 Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust. Want to try again ? Yeah, he was way off. lol I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc. It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far. AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in. I could care less what some pseudo-scientist has to pontificate on his "science discoveries"... Sometimes common sense takes over. Unless you're a potato. Until these quacks take into account all the other dimensions and realms, they're looking in an empty paper bag for the answers. Quacks and Bozos! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21943549 United States 09/05/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc. It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far. AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in. I'll check it out. Damn, just did a search on Youtube for him. I think I will like him! His lectures are great ! He does : Quantum Mechanics, Statistical Mechanics, Cosmology, M-Theory, Quantum Entanglements, the Theoretical Minimum, SR and GR, plus a few others. He was also close friends with Feynman, and his lectures remind me of how well Feynman was at explaining difficult concepts, granted some of the more difficult math goes over my head, but most of it is easy to understand. On top of all that, he's a pretty funny guy. Here's two recent lectures that are nice and succinct Demystifying the Higgs Boson The Black Hole Wars The Higgs Boson?!? Please, this thread is getting far too stupid. The "God" particle?!?! Like I said before, Quacks and Bozos! |
cosmicgypsy User ID: 20792968 United States 09/05/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO) Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Do you know what was it related to before being related to magnetic fields? Some of the theories wrapped its cause and effect around gravity waves. Meanwhile, we cannot even detect a gravity wave. So, we can't detect gravity waves, we can't detect dark matter, and yet they think that this is what it is. I have always thought that it had to do with magnetic fields. Magnetism is invisible. I figured the response would be gravity, it seems to be the fall guy when an unknown is at hand. Magnetics makes sense to me also, like a common/intuitive type of sense. In my own non-scientific way of thinking I consider dark matter to be creative potential. That it would give rise to positive and negative charged particles interacting with one another - the dance of the spiral - seems to me to be creation of matter...even if it is invisible. Although I find science fascinating I'm so out of my league trying to discuss it - as may be evident by what I've above written - so I'll just read along from here on out. I love-love these kinds of threads. Thanks for posting the article! You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO) Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Do you know what was it related to before being related to magnetic fields? Some of the theories wrapped its cause and effect around gravity waves. Meanwhile, we cannot even detect a gravity wave. So, we can't detect gravity waves, we can't detect dark matter, and yet they think that this is what it is. I have always thought that it had to do with magnetic fields. Magnetism is invisible. I figured the response would be gravity, it seems to be the fall guy when an unknown is at hand. Magnetics makes sense to me also, like a common/intuitive type of sense. In my own non-scientific way of thinking I consider dark matter to be creative potential. That it would give rise to positive and negative charged particles interacting with one another - the dance of the spiral - seems to me to be creation of matter...even if it is invisible. Although I find science fascinating I'm so out of my league trying to discuss it - as may be evident by what I've above written - so I'll just read along from here on out. I love-love these kinds of threads. Thanks for posting the article! Actually, you were pretty accurate in the way you expressed it. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19045680 United States 09/05/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc. It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far. AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in. I could care less what some pseudo-scientist has to pontificate on his "science discoveries"... Sometimes common sense takes over. Unless you're a potato. Until these quacks take into account all the other dimensions and realms, they're looking in an empty paper bag for the answers. Quacks and Bozos! Of course you don't. You have an " opinion " about something based on a lack of knowledge. There's a word to describe a lack of knowledge.....oh yeah...." Ignorance ". Who's a quack ? You |
cosmicgypsy User ID: 20792968 United States 09/05/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've had good teachers, SoS . You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As have I. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21943549 United States 09/05/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc. It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far. AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in. I could care less what some pseudo-scientist has to pontificate on his "science discoveries"... Sometimes common sense takes over. Unless you're a potato. Until these quacks take into account all the other dimensions and realms, they're looking in an empty paper bag for the answers. Quacks and Bozos! Of course you don't. You have an " opinion " about something based on a lack of knowledge. There's a word to describe a lack of knowledge.....oh yeah...." Ignorance ". Who's a quack ? You Is my lack of knowledge concerning this so-called dark matter? Oh wait, they can't find it, can't see it, and can't confer it's there. If that's ignorance, I'll accept that. You must remove yourself from mainstream science to get the proper answers. Dig deep, the answers are out there. It's just like the mainstream news, nothing but lies. If science spoke the truth, you'd never hear of it. |
phizzycyst User ID: 1445469 United States 09/05/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc. It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far. AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in. +1...yea this lecture is awesome, explained so that it's easy to understand. |
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cosmicgypsy User ID: 20792968 United States 09/05/2012 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC 21943549, you're quick to admonish posters on this thread and discount the article and other offered material, yet I haven't read you state what you think it is. You say to look elsewhere, but don't offer anything of substance to explore...like a link to what you're eluding to. So, an honest question: How can you discount the exploration of this (purported) unknown, whether it's dark matter itself or what dark matter produces, if you yourself do not have the solution? Why would you so vehemently squelch discussion and discovery?...I mean, I'm not seeing anyone on this thread saying they have all the answers, but I am seeing posters who want to learn and understand. Humanity would be even more ignorant than what it is if imaginations and thought processes hadn't been stretched beyond the denseness of concrete (purported) intellectual and intuitive passivity. Last Edited by cosmicgypsy on 09/05/2012 12:12 PM You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23223476 Australia 09/05/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that mainstream scientists will ever find 'dark matter,' because it will take a huge paradigm shift in the thinking of the established scientific community to 'look in the right place' for it, so to speak. It will take too radical a scientists to take that step, the scientific community don't like people who stray from the 'official line' of doing things. They usually shun radicals. Not to mention who pays for the funding ect. ect. But when they start breaking the rules of empiricism, & start looking at concepts that you CANT observe, (like MIND, for example) then they might start getting somewhere |
Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that mainstream scientists will ever find 'dark matter,' because it will take a huge paradigm shift in the thinking of the established scientific community to 'look in the right place' for it, so to speak. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223476 It will take too radical a scientists to take that step, the scientific community don't like people who stray from the 'official line' of doing things. They usually shun radicals. Not to mention who pays for the funding ect. ect. But when they start breaking the rules of empiricism, & start looking at concepts that you CANT observe, (like MIND, for example) then they might start getting somewhere good post! "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Swinging on Spirals (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/05/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that mainstream scientists will ever find 'dark matter,' because it will take a huge paradigm shift in the thinking of the established scientific community to 'look in the right place' for it, so to speak. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223476 It will take too radical a scientists to take that step, the scientific community don't like people who stray from the 'official line' of doing things. They usually shun radicals. Not to mention who pays for the funding ect. ect. But when they start breaking the rules of empiricism, & start looking at concepts that you CANT observe, (like MIND, for example) then they might start getting somewhere good post! Thread: Paradigm Transformation - Cosmic in Scale "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23223476 Australia 09/05/2012 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think that mainstream scientists will ever find 'dark matter,' because it will take a huge paradigm shift in the thinking of the established scientific community to 'look in the right place' for it, so to speak. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223476 It will take too radical a scientists to take that step, the scientific community don't like people who stray from the 'official line' of doing things. They usually shun radicals. Not to mention who pays for the funding ect. ect. But when they start breaking the rules of empiricism, & start looking at concepts that you CANT observe, (like MIND, for example) then they might start getting somewhere good post! Thread: Paradigm Transformation - Cosmic in Scale Thanks for the link, I got my info from this book (I'd love to pretend I'm super-smart lol) [link to www.amazon.com] |
shadowalker User ID: 21435704 United States 09/05/2012 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark matter/energy what have you is truly not dark but as we humans only put images to about 1% of the light spectrum we see it as dark but truly it is vibrant and full of unperceived energy.......or magnetic fields whichever way you percieve it Last Edited by lucifer9 on 09/05/2012 01:08 PM Unity is our greatest ally.. For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come... I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets. 7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few. |