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| Resister User ID: 669410  United States09/05/2012 11:54 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Never heard of the prophecy, but I'm not a Mormon either. It is worth noting that if it was writen in 1855 that would put it about 7 years before the Civil War. It would be easy to think there was a constitutional crisis looming as the southern states were about to seceed. ... of course back in the 1800's Mormons also thought black people would eventually turn white if they became Mormons. Just sayin'. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1272733 United States09/05/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Never heard of the prophecy, but I'm not a Mormon either. It is worth noting that if it was writen in 1855 that would put it about 7 years before the Civil War. It would be easy to think there was a constitutional crisis looming as the southern states were about to seceed. Quoting: Resister ... of course back in the 1800's Mormons also thought black people would eventually turn white if they became Mormons. Just sayin'. Right? The term "self-fulfilling prophecy" comes to mind. Ahmadinejad promotes the same kind of nonsense. |
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| Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States09/05/2012 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? I didn't know this either until a couple of weeks ago. Yes, I do find it very interesting. Who knows? One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 09/05/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Never heard of the prophecy, but I'm not a Mormon either. It is worth noting that if it was writen in 1855 that would put it about 7 years before the Civil War. It would be easy to think there was a constitutional crisis looming as the southern states were about to seceed. Quoting: Resister ... of course back in the 1800's Mormons also thought black people would eventually turn white if they became Mormons. Just sayin'. Prolly a little metaphorical there...like I said...ALL religions have some level of bizzaro junk goin on. Doesn't seem to be rooted in events in the day if you actually read it...because it mentions precious metals in the Rocky mountains and none were know to exist there at the time, so it's mostly taken to be pretty far in the future. It also supposedly came out well over 20 years prior the civil war began..and Josepth Smith died 16 years before it began in 1844...So how it was written 11 years AFTER he was dead?...maybe he was resurected...lol....he must've been pretty stinky! ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 09/05/2012 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? SHR and Resister didn't know about the White Horse prophecy? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23216545 That's odd. Yeah, I agree there should be more discussion of it. Yeah it's real "odd" and up until a few days ago I didn't know EVERYTHING FRIKKIN ON EARTH..but good thing now I do... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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| Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States09/05/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Look at the bottom of the page. Apparently there has been some post about this but I didn't read them at the time as it didn't sound pertinent from the thread titles. I wonder if most Mormons believe this or not. Would like more discussion on this. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 09/05/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? SHR and Resister didn't know about the White Horse prophecy? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23216545 That's odd. Yeah, I agree there should be more discussion of it. Yeah it's real "odd" and up until a few days ago I didn't know EVERYTHING FRIKKIN ON EARTH..but good thing now I do... Yep...knew all that... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23216545 United States09/05/2012 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? To a non-Mormon, non-religious person like myself who believes in separation of Church and State this is pretty creepy and worrisome. |
| Resister User ID: 669410 United States09/05/2012 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? It is an interesting coincidence. Our constitution is clearly in tatters on the Supreme court floor, the current occupant of the Whitehouse never recognized it in the first place, and both he and the cheif justice of SCOTUS flubbed the oath of office the first time. Now at this specific time the top challanger to be the next president is the nations first ever Mormon? Now, say his name really fast. Mitt Romney sounds an aweful lot like Moroni if you say it fast enough. Holy crap. Does this mean we're all gonna get Mormon cooties?!  "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 09/05/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Look at the bottom of the page. Apparently there has been some post about this but I didn't read them at the time as it didn't sound pertinent from the thread titles. Quoting: Bluebird I wonder if most Mormons believe this or not. Would like more discussion on this. Few of them yes, but as I said, there doesn't seem to be much of a whole lot that ever really got any traction about it. I also wasn't aware that the Joseph Smith dude ran for President as an independant in 1844 and his campaign ended when he was assinated in prison... Other nominations Joseph Smith, Jr., mayor of Nauvoo, Illinois, and founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, ran as an independent. He proposed the redemption of slaves by selling public lands and decreasing the size and salary of the United States Congress; the closure of prisons; the annexation of Texas, Oregon, and parts of Canada; the securing of international rights on high seas; free trade; and the re-establishment of a national bank.[2] The campaign ended when he was assassinated while in prison on June 27, 1844. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23216545 United States09/05/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Never heard of the prophecy, but I'm not a Mormon either. It is worth noting that if it was writen in 1855 that would put it about 7 years before the Civil War. It would be easy to think there was a constitutional crisis looming as the southern states were about to seceed. Quoting: Resister ... of course back in the 1800's Mormons also thought black people would eventually turn white if they became Mormons. Just sayin'. Prolly a little metaphorical there...like I said...ALL religions have some level of bizzaro junk goin on. Doesn't seem to be rooted in events in the day if you actually read it...because it mentions precious metals in the Rocky mountains and none were know to exist there at the time, so it's mostly taken to be pretty far in the future. It also supposedly came out well over 20 years prior the civil war began..and Josepth Smith died 16 years before it began in 1844...So how it was written 11 years AFTER he was dead?...maybe he was resurected...lol....he must've been pretty stinky! It's the recollections of an old man and isn't verbatim since he was remembering what Smith had said. But after looking through your links it appears to be genuine. Smith said repeatedly that the constitution would one day be hanging by a thread, but more interesting to me is what he said about the "The One Mighty and Strong." (What exactly DID he say? I can't find it.) |
| White Hat User ID: 10915243 United States09/05/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? It's too bad that there can never be a POTUS with any power to do anything to save the 'Constitution'. It would be great to blame NAFTA on Clinton, or Obamacare on Obama or the Patriot Act on Bush... But they didn't write any of that legislation. I wonder what Romney WON'T write, but will be attributed to him? (GOOD OR BAD) I read a prophecy once that said that men are gullible creatures who need to point at a spot on the wall... so give them a spot. Do you think that Romney DOESN'T represent hundreds of corporate interests like the others? Surely HE represents an "ideal" - Hope? Change? "Conservatism"? 'Liberty!'? A spot on the wall. A puppet. Pointing at him for blame or credit is pointing at hundreds of selfish interests just like every fake representative. SHR, I'm glad you need to believe in someone to convince you that your choice, that your ideal of your 'party' is valid - and perhaps matters. There is no party. There are no representatives. There is a shadow of a nation with a logo on it's lapel. The representative republic was high-jacked and replaced with a corporate fiction - that is the story of interest. The story to pursue. start here: [link to www.nogw.com] Last Edited by White Hat on 09/05/2012 12:38 PM |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 09/05/2012 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? At BYU Romney was only half jokingly called "The One Mighty and Strong.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23216545 To a non-Mormon, non-religious person like myself who believes in separation of Church and State this is pretty creepy and worrisome. Well BYU is a Mormon university...and the Might and strong guy seems to be about someone who comes in from wherever and validates all the Mormon fundies and multiple wives and all that junk which has pretty much been disavowed by the main stream Mormans near as I can tell...people might say that About Romney...but I don't see that he thinks anything along even near those lines...besides "Multiple wives" is something that only looks good on paper...LOL! ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23216545 United States09/05/2012 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Look at the bottom of the page. Apparently there has been some post about this but I didn't read them at the time as it didn't sound pertinent from the thread titles. Quoting: Bluebird I wonder if most Mormons believe this or not. Would like more discussion on this. Few of them yes, but as I said, there doesn't seem to be much of a whole lot that ever really got any traction about it. I also wasn't aware that the Joseph Smith dude ran for President as an independant in 1844 and his campaign ended when he was assinated in prison... Other nominations Joseph Smith, Jr., mayor of Nauvoo, Illinois, and founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, ran as an independent. He proposed the redemption of slaves by selling public lands and decreasing the size and salary of the United States Congress; the closure of prisons; the annexation of Texas, Oregon, and parts of Canada; the securing of international rights on high seas; free trade; and the re-establishment of a national bank.[2] The campaign ended when he was assassinated while in prison on June 27, 1844. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yeah, and guess what Joseph Smith's platform was? He was an independent commander in chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23232448 United States09/05/2012 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? It is not a "prophecy" It is a plan. ALL of government is immoral, unethical, parasitical, etc.... Even God is against a government of men rather then a government of God. |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 09/05/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Never heard of the prophecy, but I'm not a Mormon either. It is worth noting that if it was writen in 1855 that would put it about 7 years before the Civil War. It would be easy to think there was a constitutional crisis looming as the southern states were about to seceed. Quoting: Resister ... of course back in the 1800's Mormons also thought black people would eventually turn white if they became Mormons. Just sayin'. Prolly a little metaphorical there...like I said...ALL religions have some level of bizzaro junk goin on. Doesn't seem to be rooted in events in the day if you actually read it...because it mentions precious metals in the Rocky mountains and none were know to exist there at the time, so it's mostly taken to be pretty far in the future. It also supposedly came out well over 20 years prior the civil war began..and Josepth Smith died 16 years before it began in 1844...So how it was written 11 years AFTER he was dead?...maybe he was resurected...lol....he must've been pretty stinky! It's the recollections of an old man and isn't verbatim since he was remembering what Smith had said. But after looking through your links it appears to be genuine. Smith said repeatedly that the constitution would one day be hanging by a thread, but more interesting to me is what he said about the "The One Mighty and Strong." (What exactly DID he say? I can't find it.) Looks like it was written in a letter to another Mormon guy here..."BROTHER WILLIAM W. PHELPS"...Seems to be more of apocalyptic revelation type thing and may possibly refer to the Return of Jesus Christ? some "super natural" being at least...shrug...check it out...but it looks like this is where the phrase, "The One Mighty and strong" originates from. [link to www.mormonfundamentalism.com] ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23216545 United States09/05/2012 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? When Mitt Romney received his patriarchal blessing as a Michigan teenager, he was told that the Lord expected great things from him. All young Mormon men —the “worthy males” of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,as it is officially known —receive such a blessing as they embark on their requisite journeys as religious missionaries. But at 19 years of age, the youngest son of the most prominent Mormon in American politics —a seventh-generation direct descendant of one of the faith’s founding 12 apostles—Mitt Romney had been singled out as a destined leader.... [link to www.salon.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23216545 United States09/05/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Section 85 of the Mormon Bible: And it shall come to pass, that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the sceptre of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set in order the house of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of the Saints, whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and of their children enrolled in the book of the law of God: (Verse 7.) |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 09/05/2012 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? It's too bad that there can never be a POTUS with any power to do anything to save the 'Constitution'. Quoting: White Hat It would be great to blame NAFTA on Clinton, or Obamacare on Obama or the Patriot Act on Bush... But they didn't write any of that legislation. I wonder what Romney WON'T write, but will be attributed to him? (GOOD OR BAD) I read a prophecy once that said that men are gullible creatures who need to point at a spot on the wall... so give them a spot. Do you think that Romney DOESN'T represent hundreds of corporate interests like the others? Surely HE represents an "ideal" - Hope? Change? "Conservatism"? 'Liberty!'? A spot on the wall. A puppet. Pointing at him for blame or credit is pointing at hundreds of selfish interests just like every fake representative. SHR, I'm glad you need to believe in someone to convince you that your choice, that your ideal of your 'party' is valid - and perhaps matters. There is no party. There are no representatives. There is a shadow of a nation with a logo on it's lapel. The representative republic was high-jacked and replaced with a corporate fiction - that is the story of interest. The story to pursue. start here: [link to www.nogw.com] Yeah whatever dude, that soverign BS is one the largest piles of crapola on the planet... You inbeciles who believe that there are like 5 puppet masters in a back room somewhere contolling everything are using that as an excuse for not doing anything or being involved... Go smoke another bowl, whack off over that Niburu and ziotard horse crap on the rest of that matrix site into your capt enlightment underoos and "Start" there... Here's what you get from me...  Last Edited by SHR on 09/05/2012 12:57 PM ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 09/05/2012 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Look at the bottom of the page. Apparently there has been some post about this but I didn't read them at the time as it didn't sound pertinent from the thread titles. Quoting: Bluebird I wonder if most Mormons believe this or not. Would like more discussion on this. Few of them yes, but as I said, there doesn't seem to be much of a whole lot that ever really got any traction about it. I also wasn't aware that the Joseph Smith dude ran for President as an independant in 1844 and his campaign ended when he was assinated in prison... Other nominations Joseph Smith, Jr., mayor of Nauvoo, Illinois, and founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, ran as an independent. He proposed the redemption of slaves by selling public lands and decreasing the size and salary of the United States Congress; the closure of prisons; the annexation of Texas, Oregon, and parts of Canada; the securing of international rights on high seas; free trade; and the re-establishment of a national bank.[2] The campaign ended when he was assassinated while in prison on June 27, 1844. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yeah, and guess what Joseph Smith's platform was? He was an independent commander in chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy. So, give us a source for where he said that. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23216545 United States09/05/2012 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Look at the bottom of the page. Apparently there has been some post about this but I didn't read them at the time as it didn't sound pertinent from the thread titles. Quoting: Bluebird I wonder if most Mormons believe this or not. Would like more discussion on this. Few of them yes, but as I said, there doesn't seem to be much of a whole lot that ever really got any traction about it. I also wasn't aware that the Joseph Smith dude ran for President as an independant in 1844 and his campaign ended when he was assinated in prison... Other nominations Joseph Smith, Jr., mayor of Nauvoo, Illinois, and founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, ran as an independent. He proposed the redemption of slaves by selling public lands and decreasing the size and salary of the United States Congress; the closure of prisons; the annexation of Texas, Oregon, and parts of Canada; the securing of international rights on high seas; free trade; and the re-establishment of a national bank.[2] The campaign ended when he was assassinated while in prison on June 27, 1844. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yeah, and guess what Joseph Smith's platform was? He was an independent commander in chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy. So, give us a source for where he said that. The Salon article is must reading. [link to www.salon.com] Romney avoids mentioning it, but Smith ran for president in 1844 as an independent commander in chief of an “army of God” advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government in favor of a Mormon-ruled theocracy. Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.” Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church. He had predicted the emergence of “the one Mighty and Strong” —a leader who would “set in order the house of God” —and became the first of many prominent Mormon men to claim the mantle. |
| Shamar User ID: 1463477 United States09/05/2012 01:10 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "White Horse" Prophecy about a Mormon saving the constitution when it hangs by a thread and hardly anything here about that???? Walter Veith says that the Jesuits created Mormonism......I believe him. With Romney's pick of Paul Ryan for VP.......I can fairly safely say we have a prime Jesuit connection here.  Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
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