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Message Subject If Vaccines don't cause Autism why is it a side effect listed on the package insert with the FDA!
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Over the past several years, I have looked through dozens of message boards devoted to health because of my own interests. I paid particular attention to those involving mercury and autism. I have come across countless posts by mothers who reported their child was never the same after vaccines. The ignorant can quote all the FDA and government crap they want but it's obvious to anyone who does their homework that there's a correlation. The protocols that are working best for autism are those that involve gut health and chelation because they already know it's the mercury in the vaccines that is the root cause of the problem.

How are they ever going to do a study to prove it when the people who fund studies are the ones who will get sued? The vaccine and amalgam industries can't afford the lawsuits Everyone I know has been vaccinated and has mercury fillings in their mouths. The powers that be know it's bad but they can't admit it. It's like Monsanto not serving GM food in their own cafeteria.
 Quoting: Catseye


Oh, BTW, I don't ever remember a mom reporting an extra arm growing after vaccines were administered.
 Quoting: Catseye


Has everyone you know got autism? Or even a majority.
They've all had vaccines and mercury fillings so by your logic they should have.
I mean, that's the double whammy isn't it?

I'm hoping your last sentence was an attempt at sarcasm.
 Quoting: Cahill



The point was that mercury is so pervasive in our country that everyone would have an opportunity to sue if some study showed it caused all these horrific things - because we weren't adequately warned when we were given the vaccines or the fillings in our teeth. No, everyone I know does not have autism. The reason everyone doesn't get poisoned from mercury is because the elemental mercury in fillings and vaccines is normally detoxified by the body. But in some people, the elemental form of mercury is converted into the much more dangerous methyl mercury form and it is this that is causing some people to have problems. Some people may also have a problem excreting mercury properly and promptly. Not everyone gets sick because not everyone has a problem with yeast and bacteria, like a case of dysbiosis, or with their own body's detoxification ability by their liver and kidneys. These are the risk factors that will determine if someone is going to get sick or not, baby or adult.

Most people don't understand mercury challenge tests because the chemistry is over their heads. That includes most doctors because they aren't familiar with the test. They think if they test the blood or urine for mercury, that some will be there if there's a problem. One reason mercury is so dangerous is that it binds with body tissues and interferes with enzyme systems by binding chemically. That means it "sticks" inside the body. So it won't be floating around in the blood. A challenge test uses a chelator that binds strongly to mercury to grab it away from body tissues so it ends up in the blood to be removed. Then you measure the mercury as it comes out in the urine. The Quackwatch idiot describes this as "articially raising" the levels of mercury in these tests to rip people off. That's how ignorant he is about basic chemistry. Any scientist who knows anything about mercury can tell you it binds and gets stuck inside the body because of its chemical nature.

from

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

"Reinforcing the hypothesis that the majority of injuries caused by methylmercury (MeHg) in the central nervous system are related to its ability to increase reactive oxygen species, Zhang et al. (2009) [20] reported that after pretreatment of bovine cells with pyrroloquinoline quinone (PQQ), an antioxidant, the cytotoxicity induced by MeHg is significantly attenuated. PQQ reduces the percentage of apoptotic cells, decreased significantly ROS production, suppressed lipid peroxidation, and increased antioxidant enzyme activity in cells exposed to MeHg. Furthermore, the protective effects elicited by an antioxidant (ebselen) strengthen the idea that seleno-organic compounds represent promising approaches to neutralize MeHg-induced neurotoxicity [19].

Studies also demonstrate that mercury has the ability to reduce the number of neuron and cytoarchitecture in individuals with prenatal exposure to mercury [76, 77]. In animal models, some of these symptoms are reproduced. Low-dose prenatal exposure to methylmercury during 10 gestational days impairs motor and mnemonic function in adult mice [23]. This hypothesis is supported by studies that describe methylmercury inhibition of cell division and migration both “in vivo” and “in vitro” [76–78].

In addition, because of its high affinity for sulfhydryl groups in tubulin, methylmercury inhibits the organization of microtubules that are important in CNS development [79–81]. The binding to SH groups also interferes with the intracellular signaling of multiple receptors (e.g., muscarinic, nicotinic, and dopaminergic) and promotes the blockade of Ca++ channels in neurons [82, 83]. In addition, inorganic mercury has the ability to increase the permeability of chloride channels of GABA A receptors in the dorsal root ganglion, which is associated with neuronal hyperpolarization [84].

Corroborating these findings, the study conducted by Maia et al., (2010) [21] demonstrates that the poisoning by methylmercury changes the nitrergic activities of adult mice, and the predominance of alterations may be related to different locations. Besides increasing the nitrergic activity methylmercury and mercuric chloride also have the ability to increase the release of neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. Similar findings have also been reported to be a mechanism implicated in the effects of methylmercury and HgCl2 on the central nervous system function [85–89].

Halbach et al. [90] studied a correlation in Iraqi children between the level of maternal exposure to methylmercury during pregnancy and psychomotor retardation. Sandborgh-Englund et al. [91] corroborated this finding in children from the Faroe Islands; they found that children exposed to mercury in the prenatal period had defects in attention, memory, language, and motor function. In addition, exposure to methylmercury in pregnant women or early childhood leads to changes in the CNS development of the fetus or child, respectively [50, 92, 93]. Thereupon, changes caused by mercury poisoning result in significant clinical deficit in motor skills, coordination, and general activity rate of cognitive and psychological disorders [23]."


More relevant info on mercury:

[link to www.chemistryexplained.com]

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


[link to www.toxicteeth.org]

[link to video.google.com]


Sarcasm? You're the one that mentioned growing an extra arm. I'm hoping YOU were being sarcastic. Where do you get your info from? Is it all from Quackwatch and the FDA?
 Quoting: Catseye

I fully agree about the dangers of mercury poisoning. It's truly nasty stuff, particularly mercury vapour which is one of the reasons you can't get a mercury filled thermometer these days.
Methyl mercury poisoned fish is certainly a no-no for expectant mothers and the such like. I doubt if I'd eat them either.

However, your second paragraph starts off with a very familiar patronising stance. "The chemistry is over their heads" and certainly in my eyes that's where your argument starts to disintegrate.
If mercury combines chemically with enzymes please explain then how it "sticks" inside the body.
If it's not floating around in the body are these enzymes it has combined with stuck somewhere too? Does the mercury seek out these enzymes or vice versa?

I'm guessing your chemistry (it's biochemistry by the way) has been gleaned from the world renowned Dr Mercola or his ilk which would speak volumes. I'm also guessing that you would promote mercury chelation techniques for autistic children too?

Just a point of interest where did you copy and paste your post from as it plain that it's a regurgitant.

And for your information my knowledge comes from my experience in working in medicine for over a quarter of a century.
That's REAL medicine by the way, not Internet "medicine".
 
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