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'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..

 
Anonymous Coward
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09/06/2012 10:27 AM
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Prefessional hit. Now, who goes around the world assassinating people
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I bit to high profile for the Mossad. If thats where ya are going..but ya never know and we wont know the truth either...News headline from Friday: "British family commits suicide"..
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There have been a few of those lately. Mostly due to more people losing their jobs. People who kill their families are usually controlling and went they start to lose control they lash out. A lot of them are copycat as well.

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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
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LOL.. You one of those guys who believes in religion? The elites set it up as a divider noob.
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When anyone calls for the death of my family and myself then they deserve death themselves...simple as that.
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As you call for the death of thousands of families?

You're in a good path son
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09/06/2012 10:37 AM
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A potential witness in the killing of the Lac D'Annecy is actively sought by the police.
A woman living near the forest park where the four bodies were found told a strange scene to the police on Thursday. When she returned home by car at 16:15, shortly after the killing, she failed to be struck in turn by a small white car coming in the opposite direction. "I met a vehicle traveling very quickly and took the bend at top speed. He tried to avoid me and I made my car swerve on the remote side. "An event she noticed because the bend is known to be quite dangerous by the residents, says she.

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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
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Stop being such a dick, you fucking dick.
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Stop being a muzzie lover, you fucking Mohammad wannabe.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You're on here all day. Get outside and contribute to society, not to your basement. Inbred.
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I go outside all the time, but unlike your unemployed welfare sucking ass, I work in an office on a computer...several of them actually...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
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LOL.. You one of those guys who believes in religion? The elites set it up as a divider noob.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9128390


When anyone calls for the death of my family and myself then they deserve death themselves...simple as that.
 Quoting: BRIEF


As you call for the death of thousands of families?

You're in a good path son
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I call for the death of those that call for mine...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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09/06/2012 11:01 AM
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I find something strange, on one hand it seems the work of a professional killer (bullets in the head, the car has not been "sprayed" by bullets, killer(s) without mercy) but on the other hand, sounds like amateur(s) : the girls are alive, the killing was on quite busy road (and there was a witness, the cyclist), and officals have noted "savagery" in the modus operandi, which not sticks with a cold blooded hitman..
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09/06/2012 11:06 AM
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So not a microbiologist then, that was my first thoughts.
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09/06/2012 11:19 AM
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[link to www.indymedia.co.uk]

Saad al-Hilli worked with the Iraqi nuclear program, according to this report.

Where did he travel before and after he was killed? The ITER facililty is in Cadarache, but the location of the shooting is closer to Geneva, Switzerland.
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09/06/2012 11:21 AM
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More:

[link to inagist.com]
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09/06/2012 11:21 AM
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Al Hilli worked for AMS 1087, in Swindon Aeral Drones and photography...get the picture now
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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And more:

[link to www.pinkfishmedia.net]
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It's alleged that...

He was set up by Mi6 in 2007 in a front company called AMS1087 which did aircraft based photography. They were based at the Delta office park in Wiltshire which is built on part of the old 'Turnstile' nuclear Command and Control bunker and is still owned by the MoD. He was loaned RAF trainer aircraft at no cost to help him get established as well as pilots and because of these advantages his company originally thrived however once he started to visit Iran in late 2010 he lost a lot of (MoD supplied) private contracts and the business almost collapsed.

and

In an unprecedented action the British Embassy in Paris has sent a twenty person team to the crime scene headed by Kara Owen the deputy British ambassador. According to local TV station 'Demain' people describe the British Embassy staff as being "military type".

EDIT. Apparently already the subject of a D notice ie

No mention of his links to the Security Services
No mention of his links to Iran
No mention of his links to nuclear weapons research
No speculation regarding Israel involvement in the killing

Be interesting to see what tonight's news is able to say
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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09/06/2012 11:33 AM

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11634244


It's alleged that...

He was set up by Mi6 in 2007 in a front company called AMS1087 which did aircraft based photography. They were based at the Delta office park in Wiltshire which is built on part of the old 'Turnstile' nuclear Command and Control bunker and is still owned by the MoD. He was loaned RAF trainer aircraft at no cost to help him get established as well as pilots and because of these advantages his company originally thrived however once he started to visit Iran in late 2010 he lost a lot of (MoD supplied) private contracts and the business almost collapsed.

and

In an unprecedented action the British Embassy in Paris has sent a twenty person team to the crime scene headed by Kara Owen the deputy British ambassador. According to local TV station 'Demain' people describe the British Embassy staff as being "military type".

EDIT. Apparently already the subject of a D notice ie

No mention of his links to the Security Services
No mention of his links to Iran
No mention of his links to nuclear weapons research
No speculation regarding Israel involvement in the killing

Be interesting to see what tonight's news is able to say
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


Hmm. I was watching live coverage on Sky this morning. They sent in loads of 'police' to do a search of the area. The newscaster mentioned the police were 'military types'. Just watching it now and there are soldiers there. Why's that then I wonder?
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It's alleged that...

He was set up by Mi6 in 2007 in a front company called AMS1087 which did aircraft based photography. They were based at the Delta office park in Wiltshire which is built on part of the old 'Turnstile' nuclear Command and Control bunker and is still owned by the MoD. He was loaned RAF trainer aircraft at no cost to help him get established as well as pilots and because of these advantages his company originally thrived however once he started to visit Iran in late 2010 he lost a lot of (MoD supplied) private contracts and the business almost collapsed.

and

In an unprecedented action the British Embassy in Paris has sent a twenty person team to the crime scene headed by Kara Owen the deputy British ambassador. According to local TV station 'Demain' people describe the British Embassy staff as being "military type".

EDIT. Apparently already the subject of a D notice ie

No mention of his links to the Security Services
No mention of his links to Iran
No mention of his links to nuclear weapons research
No speculation regarding Israel involvement in the killing

Be interesting to see what tonight's news is able to say
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


Hmm. I was watching live coverage on Sky this morning. They sent in loads of 'police' to do a search of the area. The newscaster mentioned the police were 'military types'. Just watching it now and there are soldiers there. Why's that then I wonder?
 Quoting: Tess2012


My guess is -he was killed by Iranian security, was probably a double agent, then uncovered., which lead to the mass slaughter, to send a powerful message
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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When you choose to stand up for truth it will make most people uneasy, because it contradicts their own wisdom and mindset, and most people do not like it when this happens. Truth will rock the boat, it will force changes, it will purge everything that is not rooted in [and founded on] truth, but it is always for good. Regardless of the opposition and short term setback that truth may suffer, and whether or not it can find someone who is willing to stand up for it, truth will ultimately win.
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09/06/2012 11:42 AM
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The cyclist that was killed worked for Areva
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09/06/2012 11:44 AM
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Where Al Hilli worked in Hawthorn: [link to www.cdrex.com]

And now more about it's location: Hawthorn is the location of a number of defence related underground facilities in the vicinity of Corsham, Wiltshire. Specifically the Hawthorn site was the location of an above-ground bunker used for the planning of satellite communications support to the United Kingdom's armed forces worldwide. These facilities had been built in quarries cleared through the excavation of Bath stone. The quarries have variously been used for Military Command & Control, storage, and the emergency fallback seat of the national government. Some areas of the quarry complex were hardened and provided with support measures to ensure resilience in the event of an enemy nuclear attack.
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Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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09/06/2012 11:46 AM
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The cyclist that was killed worked for Areva
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That's interesting:

[link to us.areva.com]
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The cyclist that was killed worked for Areva
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And the one who found them was ex-RAF
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The cyclist that was killed worked for Areva
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That's interesting:

[link to us.areva.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11634244


and on top of that he was in the RAF "Royal Air Force"

French Alps shooting: RAF veteran on bike ride raised alarm after stumbling across murder scene: [link to www.mirror.co.uk]

You tell me, a coincidence ????, I think not, he was there on a covert protection mission, but a bit late...
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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There is no bullet hole on the body of the younger of the two women. "For the moment, I do not know how she died," said the prosecutor.
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The cyclist that was killed worked for Areva
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Areva is involved with the Tokamak Cooling Water System.

Beatrice Annaratone was a Tokamak scientist killed in a tragic roadside accident along with her husband Arturo Tanga in 2009. Their 12-year-old daughter witnessed the accident, but survived.

[link to www.iter.org]
[link to iopscience.iop.org]
[link to www2011.mpe.mpg.de]

Beatrice Annaratone had worked with the Max-Planck Institute.
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There is no bullet hole on the body of the younger of the two women. "For the moment, I do not know how she died," said the prosecutor.
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My scenario:

Al Hilli worked on a covert "Iran nuclear program" operation set up by MI5, but in fact he was a double agent working for Iranian security, the Mossad learned of this, and sent documents to Iranian security regarding his real identity, they in turn massacred the family.
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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That was fast, the info on pinkfish was removed:

[link to www.pinkfishmedia.net]

Thanks, Torcha, for spelling it out.
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That was fast, the info on pinkfish was removed:

[link to www.pinkfishmedia.net]

Thanks, Torcha, for spelling it out.
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REMOVED, TERMINATED, yap, just like the family, we might be on to something here...don't go in the woods...
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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Wonder if Al-Hilli was his original name. Sounded unusual so I googled it. Al-Hilli was a Grand Ayatollah in the 12th century, really famous like Mohammed.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Three of the people killed in the French Alps were shot in the head in an execution style slaying, authorities said today.

However, detectives refused to speculate as to why the man and two women were targeted by gunmen. Officials said they did not want to speculate today as to any motive for the shooting.

Police sources told French news agency AFP that the father was Iraqi born Saad Al-Hilli, 50, who is thought to be secretary of an aerial photography company based in Swindon, Wiltshire.

The victims in the car had been hit by at least 15 bullets.


[link to www.standard.co.uk]
 Quoting: Tess2012


Ok so what did they take a aerial photo of?

I don't really want to know myself but that is what caused this trouble it seems.
 Quoting: alexisj9


Well, his firm's based in Wiltshire. Wiltshire has a very large military base, it has Stonehenge, and also probably the most crop circles in the world. Take your pick!
 Quoting: Tess2012


Wiltshire also has me, the guy worked in Swindon, nowhere near the Salisbury Plains and even further away from Stonehenge.
 Quoting: SheldonCooper


Thanks confused now though, where did wiltshire come from?
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Story changing rapidly. The dead cyclist is said to have worked for a metal manufacturing company. Speculation about the al-Hilli family says they might have been victims of a robbery by a gang of thieves, or witnessed a drug deal.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Can we assume that the British Embassy's deputy head of mission in France attends the crime scene for every murder of a British resident in France?

Cat. Out. Of. Bag.
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Story changing rapidly. The dead cyclist is said to have worked for a metal manufacturing company. Speculation about the al-Hilli family says they might have been victims of a robbery by a gang of thieves, or witnessed a drug deal.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Can we assume that the British Embassy's deputy head of mission in France attends the crime scene for every murder of a British resident in France?

Cat. Out. Of. Bag.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11634244


His Job has changed too. Sorry your talking of the cyclist, thought you meant one of the ones in the car.

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Aristide Torchia

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Story changing rapidly. The dead cyclist is said to have worked for a metal manufacturing company. Speculation about the al-Hilli family says they might have been victims of a robbery by a gang of thieves, or witnessed a drug deal.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Can we assume that the British Embassy's deputy head of mission in France attends the crime scene for every murder of a British resident in France?

Cat. Out. Of. Bag.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11634244


No, the dead cyclist, yes, it's true, there is a RAF cyclist who found the scene later on, see above link
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.

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