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'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..

 
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09/06/2012 07:58 PM
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What "information" would he want to get off a 7 to 8 year old?

Is cracking her skull with three blows likely to yield "information" do you think?

A white car was seen racing away from the scene, causing a French woman to swerve on the wrong side of the road, as the white car barely made the bend.

Perhaps the RAF/SAS guy was strapped to its roof, or taking a tow?
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09/06/2012 08:06 PM
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First pictures of the bullet ridden car, tell me what's wrong with that picture...

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


There's a space-alien in the upper-left part of the picture?

Also, the car doesn't appear to be bullet-riddled, except for the shot-out windows.
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09/06/2012 08:12 PM
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"botched carjacking"

How dumb do they think we are...

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]


Today, a neighbour who lives near to the family in Claygate, Surrey, sparked intrigue by claiming Mr al-Hilli said something to him before he went on holiday which he would be informing the police about.
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09/06/2012 08:15 PM

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"botched carjacking"

How dumb do they think we are...

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]


Today, a neighbour who lives near to the family in Claygate, Surrey, sparked intrigue by claiming Mr al-Hilli said something to him before he went on holiday which he would be informing the police about.
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Let me be the first to raise this flag on this article.

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09/06/2012 08:21 PM
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She told police she was so frightened she “could not tell the difference between the good guys and bad guys”.

pope

Will her condition "deteriorate"




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09/06/2012 08:29 PM
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1. CEZUS Ugine employee and bicyclist found dead at scene.

2. Problem discovered in 1998 with zircaloy cladding produced by CEZUS. Incomplete cladding not revealed until 2000.

[link to www.wise-paris.org]

3. Some of the tubes with faulty cladding may have found their way to market.

[link to www.wise-paris.org]

4. Did any of the faulty cladding end up in Japan, specifically Fukushima?

5. What did the dead bicyclist know?
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09/06/2012 08:45 PM
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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
 Quoting: BRIEF


^^^^^THIS^^^^^
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The man's face didn't match the passport.
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09/07/2012 02:43 AM
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What "information" would he want to get off a 7 to 8 year old?

Is cracking her skull with three blows likely to yield "information" do you think?

A white car was seen racing away from the scene, causing a French woman to swerve on the wrong side of the road, as the white car barely made the bend.

Perhaps the RAF/SAS guy was strapped to its roof, or taking a tow?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21335503


He didnt get the information from the girl dumb ass

He tortured her to get her parents to answer questions

Why else would you pistol whip a girl and shoot her in the shoulder

she was torured

you can of course believe the official version where he happened on the scene
decided oh car with engine running I know lets smash a window and shut off the engine when all the other windows are shot to pieces
Then he notices theres a bunch of dead bodies in the car with the smashed window and the engine running
with the dying 7 year old and dead cyclist in the road

Hes not RAF hes SAS and
Hes the trigger man
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09/07/2012 03:24 AM
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First pictures of the bullet ridden car, tell me what's wrong with that picture...

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


There's a space-alien in the upper-left part of the picture?

Also, the car doesn't appear to be bullet-riddled, except for the shot-out windows.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23293996


There's a missile on the car roof!
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09/07/2012 03:37 AM

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There's a missile on the car roof!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21996539


Don't think so.

It looks like skis to me.
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09/07/2012 04:01 AM
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I'm scared': Dad gunned down in French Alps revealed he was living in fear before the killing

One of Saad al-Hilli’s neighbours revealed the businessman admitted he feared for his safety in the weeks leading up to the killing

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]

Just before being gunned down, he told neighbor "Soon, I will tell the police everything I know"
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09/07/2012 04:13 AM
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So they're not British after all.

I bet he leaked top secret information. This is what happens to people that commit treason against Britain.
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09/07/2012 04:16 AM
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My boss just came back from France.

Apparently, word on the ground is that there may have been a dispute over some inheritance involving the father.

That would explain why the older girl was attacked and the younger one was hidden by her mother.

They had to get rid of any one who might have a claim on the estate.

Also it might explain why it was so messy. A family would probably not hire a professional hitman but rather a thug with a gun.
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09/07/2012 04:21 AM
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doublet-tap is a term that's used in such assassination jobs, right?

two to chest, one to head?

educate me, people.
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09/07/2012 04:21 AM
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Saad Al-Hilli, who was born in Iraq, and it turns out he runs an aerial surveillance business based in Wiltshire (where there's a huge military base) in the UK.
 Quoting: Tess2012


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09/07/2012 04:24 AM
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Can the BMW be saved?

verysad
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09/07/2012 04:34 AM
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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
 Quoting: BRIEF


You really are a pitiful, paranoid prat.
stfu
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09/07/2012 04:35 AM
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doublet-tap is a term that's used in such assassination jobs, right?

two to chest, one to head?

educate me, people.
 Quoting: Free Planet 18236988


Nope, news coming through that the DOUBLE TAP happened to each member of the family, two shots to the centre of the head.

Looking like a professional hit more and more, based on calibre of automatic gun used.

:(
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09/07/2012 04:50 AM
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Whoever was behind these murders, Lone wolf nut, Family member, or Spooks, it's impossible to understand how the perpertrator/s see themselves in human society, how it/they can justify in their insectile minds the beating and attempted murder of a child and murder of a family in front of a 4 yr old? How does something like this justify its presence amongst Humanity? This thing, or creature, is out there now, wasting oxygen, sucking up food and sharing space with Humanity after its appalling act, with the screams of the Mother, Father and children still ringing in its repulsive oral receptors; and I'm told it sounds like a beautiful symphony to these accidents of nature, these things that pretend to be fucking people. Yet some of us still see the need to keep them around when they get caught.
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09/07/2012 04:52 AM
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This is like that Stratfor leak case. Sudden nasty, obfuscated death is part of modern conflict. Best summed up by Mossad: "By way of deception, thou shalt do war".
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09/07/2012 05:29 AM

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UPDATE:

Today they're saying that they've received "credible information from British intelligence" that the brother had a family feud over what the dead man inherited. They're implying that the brother paid a hitman.

Now call me silly, but if the brother wanted to take over his inheritance, surely the hitman would have been given full details of the family and instructions to take them all out. But the girls were left alive, and they'll inherit their father's money. Whatever, it seems clear that this is what they're going along with.
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UPDATE:

Today they're saying that they've received "credible information from British intelligence" that the brother had a family feud over what the dead man inherited. They're implying that the brother paid a hitman.

Now call me silly, but if the brother wanted to take over his inheritance, surely the hitman would have been given full details of the family and instructions to take them all out. But the girls were left alive, and they'll inherit their father's money. Whatever, it seems clear that this is what they're going along with.
 Quoting: Tess2012


Spot On.

And what were the odds that a Car Jacker or Lone Nut Gunman would just happen to take out an engineer in a quite french Holiday town with this guys work history and connections and who just happened to be on the MI5's Surveillance radar. Strangers things have happened though...
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It also emerged yesterday that Mr al-Hilli had recently become involved in a bitter legal dispute over an inheritance worth more than €1.2million.

Family friend Zaid Alabdi said: “He told me he had employed lawyers and was involved in a dispute over a lot of money.”

Iraqi-born Mr Alabdi said the al-Hilli family regularly took summer holidays at the same French campsite.


[link to www.mirror.co.uk]

It appears he'd been living in fear of his life for quite a few months according to his neighbour.
And as an attempt was made to take the whole family out, it's more than likely an inheritance issue. Which is what his fear was related to.
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09/07/2012 07:19 AM
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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
 Quoting: BRIEF


You really are a pitiful, paranoid prat.
stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22682349


Thats what happens when you're under-educated and rarely travelled, you are very suseptable to brainwashing, as in his case, no doubt.

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09/07/2012 07:36 AM
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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
 Quoting: BRIEF


im sick of your racist remarks you red neck peice of shit. why dont you fuck off. the one person i wish would disapear on this forum is YOU!

go away! you cock sucker.

from a white male.
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General Yossi Ben Hanan (chief of defence at Paris Israeli embassy) has been flown from Paris to Chambery Airport according to Press TV. Chambrey is only a short drive from the site of the killing. He was 20 minutes on the tarmac before he left with three extra passengers. The helicopter flew on to Geneva
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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
 Quoting: BRIEF


You sir are a BRIEF STAIN on humanity.

I find something strange, on one hand it seems the work of a professional killer (bullets in the head, the car has not been "sprayed" by bullets, killer(s) without mercy) but on the other hand, sounds like amateur(s) : the girls are alive, the killing was on quite busy road (and there was a witness, the cyclist), and officals have noted "savagery" in the modus operandi, which not sticks with a cold blooded hitman..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9132775


doublet-tap is a term that's used in such assassination jobs, right?

two to chest, one to head?

educate me, people.
 Quoting: Free Planet 18236988


Sometimes even professionals make mistakes. Saying that when you have a target, you do not dictate when and where you will hit them, the targets movements decide where your gonna have the opportunity to carry out your plan to maximum efeectiveness. Maybe they thought this was the best spot.

Each adult shot twice in the head, thats a execution. Maybe they did not care about the kids as they weren't the primary targets. Now the MSM are saying it could have been a family dispute. The truth, apart from those who carried out the job, nobody knows the facts. We can guess but if it is a cover up the truth will never come out. Don't be surprised if they find and convict a family member for sitting up the hit. Who will maintain he is innocent or will commit suicide. Thats when you know its a cover up for something else. Nobody likes loose ends.
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What "information" would he want to get off a 7 to 8 year old?

Is cracking her skull with three blows likely to yield "information" do you think?

A white car was seen racing away from the scene, causing a French woman to swerve on the wrong side of the road, as the white car barely made the bend.

Perhaps the RAF/SAS guy was strapped to its roof, or taking a tow?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21335503


He didnt get the information from the girl dumb ass

He tortured her to get her parents to answer questions

Why else would you pistol whip a girl and shoot her in the shoulder

she was torured

you can of course believe the official version where he happened on the scene
decided oh car with engine running I know lets smash a window and shut off the engine when all the other windows are shot to pieces
Then he notices theres a bunch of dead bodies in the car with the smashed window and the engine running
with the dying 7 year old and dead cyclist in the road

Hes not RAF hes SAS and
Hes the trigger man
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23128997



He tortured her to get her parents to answer questions

Why else would you pistol whip a girl and shoot her in the shoulder


Seek medical help you moron. You are clearly just a shill here to derail this thread and make us all look like idiots. It was a busy'ish road, and the whole shooting was hurried, you don't "torture" a kid by shooting her and pistol whipping her senseless - if the man needed to be forced to give info there are far easier ways of doing it in the UK - I.e. in his own detached home. SAS my arse!
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As long as they are muzzies it's ok...
 Quoting: BRIEF


You sir are a BRIEF STAIN on humanity.

I find something strange, on one hand it seems the work of a professional killer (bullets in the head, the car has not been "sprayed" by bullets, killer(s) without mercy) but on the other hand, sounds like amateur(s) : the girls are alive, the killing was on quite busy road (and there was a witness, the cyclist), and officals have noted "savagery" in the modus operandi, which not sticks with a cold blooded hitman..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9132775


doublet-tap is a term that's used in such assassination jobs, right?

two to chest, one to head?

educate me, people.
 Quoting: Free Planet 18236988


Sometimes even professionals make mistakes. Saying that when you have a target, you do not dictate when and where you will hit them, the targets movements decide where your gonna have the opportunity to carry out your plan to maximum efeectiveness. Maybe they thought this was the best spot.

Each adult shot twice in the head, thats a execution. Maybe they did not care about the kids as they weren't the primary targets. Now the MSM are saying it could have been a family dispute. The truth, apart from those who carried out the job, nobody knows the facts. We can guess but if it is a cover up the truth will never come out. Don't be surprised if they find and convict a family member for sitting up the hit. Who will maintain he is innocent or will commit suicide. Thats when you know its a cover up for something else. Nobody likes loose ends.
 Quoting: THE DOGS BOLLOCKS

This is why those poor 2 little girls that survived might be in danger
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