Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,414 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 2,306,586
Pageviews Today: 3,163,886Threads Today: 800Posts Today: 13,023
10:51 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 23352836
United Kingdom
09/07/2012 06:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Are they one and the same Jack Saltman?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23352836


See [link to www.craigmurray.org.uk]

In short definitely confirmed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17773026


THE PLOT THICKENS
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17773026
United Kingdom
09/07/2012 06:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Are they one and the same Jack Saltman?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23352836


See [link to www.craigmurray.org.uk]

In short definitely confirmed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17773026


THE PLOT THICKENS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23352836


Doubt it will get pinned though...
Aristide Torchia

User ID: 7485754
Switzerland
09/07/2012 06:38 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Just now on French TV
2 shooters, 1 jeep, 1 motorbike, 25 rounds, 4 dead, lot's of questions...

Last Edited by Aristide Torchia on 09/07/2012 06:38 PM
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17773026
United Kingdom
09/07/2012 06:43 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Just now on French TV
2 shooters, 1 jeep, 1 motorbike, 25 rounds, 4 dead, lot's of questions...
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


So no chance of "pinning this shit" or whatever you chaps call it on this bulletin board?
AWFEKKIT

User ID: 23341254
Egypt
09/07/2012 06:51 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
So no chance of "pinning this shit" or whatever you chaps call it on this bulletin board?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17773026


I suggested a pin early on in this thread because, to me anyway, this is a story of intrigue, suspense, and, yes, conspiracy.

Perhaps if others used the feature it might get a glance?
AWFEKKIT

User ID: 23341254
Egypt
09/07/2012 07:02 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17773026
United Kingdom
09/07/2012 07:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Yes that's David Frost below
Jack Saltman



1977 The Frost Programme (TV series)
– Episode #1.9 (1977)
– Episode #1.8 (1977)
– Episode #1.7 (1977)
– Episode #1.6 (1977)
– Episode #1.5 (1977)
See all 7 episodes »


----
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9977516
Australia
09/07/2012 07:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
The neighbour who mentioned the supposed family feud Jack Saltman [link to www.imdb.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17773026


Filmography
Jump to: Editor | Producer | Director
Hide HideEditor (1 title)
1972-1991 This Week (TV series)
– Guns of Baghdad (1991)
– Gulf 5 (1991)
– Dover Air Base, Delaware - Where the Dead Come Home (1991)
– Rain of Terror (1991)
– At War in the Gulf (1991)
See all 59 episodes »

Hide HideProducer (3 titles)
1988 Waldheim: A Commission of Inquiry (TV documentary) (producer)

1979-1986 TV Eye (TV series) (producer - 55 episodes)
– A Question of Habit (1986) (producer)
– Spanish Holiday Home Fraud (1986) (producer)
– One Man's Terrorist (1986) (producer)
– The Thin Green Line (1986) (producer)
– Uncle Sam's Law (1986) (producer)
See all 55 episodes »

1969 Panorama (TV series documentary) (producer - 1 episode)
– Episode dated 17 November 1969 (1969) (producer)

Hide HideDirector (1 title)
1977 The Frost Programme (TV series)
– Episode #1.9 (1977)
– Episode #1.8 (1977)
– Episode #1.7 (1977)
– Episode #1.6 (1977)
– Episode #1.5 (1977)
See all 7 episodes »
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17773026


Claygate is a rich/yuppy area so it isn't surprising that entertainment/journos and other hob nobs live there.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21335503
09/07/2012 08:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
The neighbour who mentioned the supposed family feud Jack Saltman [link to www.imdb.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17773026


Filmography
Jump to: Editor | Producer | Director
Hide HideEditor (1 title)
1972-1991 This Week (TV series)
– Guns of Baghdad (1991)
– Gulf 5 (1991)
– Dover Air Base, Delaware - Where the Dead Come Home (1991)
– Rain of Terror (1991)
– At War in the Gulf (1991)
See all 59 episodes »

Hide HideProducer (3 titles)
1988 Waldheim: A Commission of Inquiry (TV documentary) (producer)

1979-1986 TV Eye (TV series) (producer - 55 episodes)
– A Question of Habit (1986) (producer)
– Spanish Holiday Home Fraud (1986) (producer)
– One Man's Terrorist (1986) (producer)
– The Thin Green Line (1986) (producer)
– Uncle Sam's Law (1986) (producer)
See all 55 episodes »

1969 Panorama (TV series documentary) (producer - 1 episode)
– Episode dated 17 November 1969 (1969) (producer)

Hide HideDirector (1 title)
1977 The Frost Programme (TV series)
– Episode #1.9 (1977)
– Episode #1.8 (1977)
– Episode #1.7 (1977)
– Episode #1.6 (1977)
– Episode #1.5 (1977)
See all 7 episodes »
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17773026


Claygate is a rich/yuppy area so it isn't surprising that entertainment/journos and other hob nobs live there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9977516


Thanks OZ for stating the fucking obvious!

Hey Bruce, it all helps!!! 5a
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 23338538
Thailand
09/07/2012 08:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
pool
Netizen Ribbonmind

User ID: 18381151
United States
09/08/2012 12:16 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
The Iraqi was the one who gave the US the wrong intel for WMD's in Iraq. I remember his name.
Thread: PAGE 1 UPDATES: Countries with Ebola~~ Suspects, Monitored, Outbreaks, Transfers, Denied, Maps and Negatives~COMPANY EXIT LIST

"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

[link to www.livius.org]
Free Planet
User ID: 18236988
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 02:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Stick to the topic Brief stain, stop trying to derail threads.
 Quoting: THE DOGS BOLLOCKS


^^^ this.
Free Planet
User ID: 18236988
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 02:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
The Iraqi was the one who gave the US the wrong intel for WMD's in Iraq. I remember his name.
 Quoting: pool


unconfirmed?

URL this thread that info...

STAT
Free Planet
User ID: 18236988
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 02:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
The Iraqi was the one who gave the US the wrong intel for WMD's in Iraq. I remember his name.
 Quoting: pool


unconfirmed?

URL this thread that info...

STAT
 Quoting: Free Planet 18236988


can only find THIS, "special branch were watching them" from the express - but this is still enormous, as the Al Hilli's are supposed to be 'cleanskin'.

[link to www.express.co.uk]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22481746
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 02:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
As I said in the other thread this isn't an intel hit.

Too much collateral damage.

It's personal or money related.
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS

User ID: 23335231
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 03:43 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
As I said in the other thread this isn't an intel hit.

Too much collateral damage.

It's personal or money related.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22481746


Don't rule it out though, it all depends on who he was talking to. If they thought for one moment that his wife knew, she would be a viable target along with the swedish woman. The guy on the bike maybe wrong place wrong time or he could have been involved.

Is there any information on the swedish lady yet? who was she? why was she with the family?
Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you.

There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu

Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu

One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh
Aristide Torchia

User ID: 7485754
Switzerland
09/08/2012 04:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Just now on French's Itele

"Father recently visited Iraq"

Another question: who is the older Swedish woman that was killed, I mean, they found her passport, didn't they, so why no word?
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS

User ID: 23335231
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 05:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Just now on French's Itele

"Father recently visited Iraq"

Another question: who is the older Swedish woman that was killed, I mean, they found her passport, didn't they, so why no word?
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


Ok this is strange, they are saying the older woman was Iqbal al-hilli's mother. but i'm sure the french prosecutor said yesterday that the 4 year old did not know who the older woman was and had only met her a few times.

Did anyone else see the press confrence? was I mistaken? I'm pretty sure thats what he said.
Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you.

There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu

Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu

One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9128390
Australia
09/08/2012 05:38 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Just now on French's Itele

"Father recently visited Iraq"

Another question: who is the older Swedish woman that was killed, I mean, they found her passport, didn't they, so why no word?
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


Ok this is strange, they are saying the older woman was Iqbal al-hilli's mother. but i'm sure the french prosecutor said yesterday that the 4 year old did not know who the older woman was and had only met her a few times.

Did anyone else see the press confrence? was I mistaken? I'm pretty sure thats what he said.
 Quoting: THE DOGS BOLLOCKS

Its fucking odd. Complete proffessional hit.. What gets me is that an 'ex' RAF officer riding his bike was first to find the bodies..
AWFEKKIT

User ID: 23341254
Egypt
09/08/2012 05:47 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
I can't believe this isn't pinned.

wtf
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS

User ID: 23335231
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 06:42 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
I can't believe this isn't pinned.

wtf
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Thats because it does not involve the USA, otherwise it would have been pinned by now.
Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you.

There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu

Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu

One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS

User ID: 23335231
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 06:47 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Just now on French's Itele

"Father recently visited Iraq"

Another question: who is the older Swedish woman that was killed, I mean, they found her passport, didn't they, so why no word?
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


Ok this is strange, they are saying the older woman was Iqbal al-hilli's mother. but i'm sure the french prosecutor said yesterday that the 4 year old did not know who the older woman was and had only met her a few times.

Did anyone else see the press confrence? was I mistaken? I'm pretty sure thats what he said.
 Quoting: THE DOGS BOLLOCKS

Its fucking odd. Complete proffessional hit.. What gets me is that an 'ex' RAF officer riding his bike was first to find the bodies..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9128390


Totally agree, you just have to look at the grouping of the shots on the car window, this was no spary and pary job. No gunshots heard so suppressed weapons were most likely used. Somebody went to alot of trouble to kill these people.
Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you.

There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu

Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu

One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 23392049
Germany
09/08/2012 08:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
I can't believe this isn't pinned.

wtf
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Maybe because it was just the "clearing" of an inheritance dispute?

The brother says there was nothing like that, but there are written facts about the dispute and no contact.

Maybe the brother is just afraid, but maybe he is also just stupid and not aware of electronic verification possibilities (but would be hardly believable).

It could be an inside job and be presented as a semi-professional act (running out of bullets & time to kill the, in that case unimportant children and killing a passing witness - which could have been an important person, that´s why real inside jobs avoid unexpected collaterals), the combination of a RAF (who knows, if he is just a witness? Who else has seen him being overtaken by the other cyclist), nuclear scientist (too strange, that the dead "witness" got found behind the car - who would join freely such a situation he just arrived at?? He should have been shot with his bike on street whilst trying to flee) and a satellite expert (this was not a known place to spend your holiday afternoon (a plate also warned trespassing) and, according to the ongoing investigations they there not dressed or prepared for wandering, picknick or the like) is highly suspective.

Why was the car locked (RAF "had to" break window), but the older girl was outside, when the younger said they were all inside the car. Why did he drive backwards (regular reflex should be to drive towards the shooters, especially if this is also the "exit" of the parking - watch the pics, view also the blood stains, which show the placings of the bodies).

Irregularieties, but not unexplainable, but often the easiest answer is the suiting one: cheap wannabe professionals who lost control

One more proposal: he got lost in that road, whilst the turn around his elder daughter went to pee and suddenly evil Nazis of German descent showed up and killed the, to their eye foreign intruders.
I am a bit disappointed that this option didn´t already got consideration (evil Nazis are everywhere and are the worst people who have ever been on earth - I am a well educated German habitant, smile).
Sorry, but this was too attracting...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11508444
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 08:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Prefessional hit. Now, who goes around the world assassinating people
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231816


umm? secrets
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11508444
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 08:46 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
As I said in the other thread this isn't an intel hit.

Too much collateral damage.

It's personal or money related.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22481746


removing witnesses isn't really collateral damage. but sure, if they just wanted the guy they could've waited for a better opportunity. more like a message - do whatever he did and your whole family goes.
alexisj9

User ID: 1376880
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 08:59 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
I can't believe this isn't pinned.

wtf
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


Maybe because it was just the "clearing" of an inheritance dispute?

The brother says there was nothing like that, but there are written facts about the dispute and no contact.

Maybe the brother is just afraid, but maybe he is also just stupid and not aware of electronic verification possibilities (but would be hardly believable).

It could be an inside job and be presented as a semi-professional act (running out of bullets & time to kill the, in that case unimportant children and killing a passing witness - which could have been an important person, that´s why real inside jobs avoid unexpected collaterals), the combination of a RAF (who knows, if he is just a witness? Who else has seen him being overtaken by the other cyclist), nuclear scientist (too strange, that the dead "witness" got found behind the car - who would join freely such a situation he just arrived at?? He should have been shot with his bike on street whilst trying to flee) and a satellite expert (this was not a known place to spend your holiday afternoon (a plate also warned trespassing) and, according to the ongoing investigations they there not dressed or prepared for wandering, picknick or the like) is highly suspective.

Why was the car locked (RAF "had to" break window), but the older girl was outside, when the younger said they were all inside the car. Why did he drive backwards (regular reflex should be to drive towards the shooters, especially if this is also the "exit" of the parking - watch the pics, view also the blood stains, which show the placings of the bodies).

Irregularieties, but not unexplainable, but often the easiest answer is the suiting one: cheap wannabe professionals who lost control

One more proposal: he got lost in that road, whilst the turn around his elder daughter went to pee and suddenly evil Nazis of German descent showed up and killed the, to their eye foreign intruders.
I am a bit disappointed that this option didn´t already got consideration (evil Nazis are everywhere and are the worst people who have ever been on earth - I am a well educated German habitant, smile).
Sorry, but this was too attracting...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23392049


Well I know lot's of people have pressed the please pin button, I think it's not been pinned for a reason, which is why I think the inheritance stuff is bull.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11508444
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 09:03 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
Slight aside, but zircaloy has had some corrosion issues.

[link to www.antinternational.com]

Newer alloys seem to be coming into favor. Chalk River CRUD mentioned in article above. Brings to mind the work of another deceased scientist:

[link to neutrons.ornl.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11634244


Great work, it would then mean that the French cyclist's death was not a random act either...
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


ok i have a theory!

the dead cyclist was meeting the guy in the car to discuss or trade nuc data. the dead cyclist was being tailed by the "ex-raf" guy. another agency was interested in stopping the meeting and sending a message. bad timing.

- unless mr.raf did it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11508444
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 09:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
this stinking 'family argument over money' fed story sounds as fishy as the 'kinky sex stories' fished out to discredit GCHQ hacker Gareth Williams.

No?
 Quoting: Free Planet 18236988


yep, smells of.... cover story. cool2
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22481746
United Kingdom
09/08/2012 09:38 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
As I said in the other thread this isn't an intel hit.

Too much collateral damage.

It's personal or money related.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22481746


removing witnesses isn't really collateral damage. but sure, if they just wanted the guy they could've waited for a better opportunity. more like a message - do whatever he did and your whole family goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11508444


I'd put money on it being something more mundane than spys.
Aristide Torchia

User ID: 7485754
Switzerland
09/08/2012 09:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..
As I said in the other thread this isn't an intel hit.

Too much collateral damage.

It's personal or money related.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22481746


removing witnesses isn't really collateral damage. but sure, if they just wanted the guy they could've waited for a better opportunity. more like a message - do whatever he did and your whole family goes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11508444


I'd put money on it being something more mundane than spys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22481746



Why then the D-notice on all information relating to this article:


Saad Al Hilli's work with the Iraqi nuclear program was under duress as a result of Saddam's Husseins threats against his family, there is no evidence he did it willingly.

Once he fled to the UK he had a right to expect protection from Israel and yet his trip was without any from UK or French police despite his repeated requests for some. He knew he had been targeted for assassination by Israel to prevent his knowledge reaching Iran and yet there was no evidence that he had continued his work or that he was working with Iran, his trip to Tehran was for religious reasons to visit the city of Qom.
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.

News








We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!