'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,.. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23335930 Ireland 09/07/2012 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today they're saying that they've received "credible information from British intelligence" that the brother had a family feud over what the dead man inherited. They're implying that the brother paid a hitman. Now call me silly, but if the brother wanted to take over his inheritance, surely the hitman would have been given full details of the family and instructions to take them all out. But the girls were left alive, and they'll inherit their father's money. Whatever, it seems clear that this is what they're going along with. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1760050 South Africa 09/07/2012 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Tess2012 Today they're saying that they've received "credible information from British intelligence" that the brother had a family feud over what the dead man inherited. They're implying that the brother paid a hitman. Now call me silly, but if the brother wanted to take over his inheritance, surely the hitman would have been given full details of the family and instructions to take them all out. But the girls were left alive, and they'll inherit their father's money. Whatever, it seems clear that this is what they're going along with. Spot On. And what were the odds that a Car Jacker or Lone Nut Gunman would just happen to take out an engineer in a quite french Holiday town with this guys work history and connections and who just happened to be on the MI5's Surveillance radar. Strangers things have happened though... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9977516 Australia 09/07/2012 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It also emerged yesterday that Mr al-Hilli had recently become involved in a bitter legal dispute over an inheritance worth more than €1.2million. Family friend Zaid Alabdi said: “He told me he had employed lawyers and was involved in a dispute over a lot of money.” Iraqi-born Mr Alabdi said the al-Hilli family regularly took summer holidays at the same French campsite. [link to www.mirror.co.uk] It appears he'd been living in fear of his life for quite a few months according to his neighbour. And as an attempt was made to take the whole family out, it's more than likely an inheritance issue. Which is what his fear was related to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22864183 Norway 09/07/2012 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | General Yossi Ben Hanan (chief of defence at Paris Israeli embassy) has been flown from Paris to Chambery Airport according to Press TV. Chambrey is only a short drive from the site of the killing. He was 20 minutes on the tarmac before he left with three extra passengers. The helicopter flew on to Geneva |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What "information" would he want to get off a 7 to 8 year old? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21335503 Is cracking her skull with three blows likely to yield "information" do you think? A white car was seen racing away from the scene, causing a French woman to swerve on the wrong side of the road, as the white car barely made the bend. Perhaps the RAF/SAS guy was strapped to its roof, or taking a tow? He didnt get the information from the girl dumb ass He tortured her to get her parents to answer questions Why else would you pistol whip a girl and shoot her in the shoulder she was torured you can of course believe the official version where he happened on the scene decided oh car with engine running I know lets smash a window and shut off the engine when all the other windows are shot to pieces Then he notices theres a bunch of dead bodies in the car with the smashed window and the engine running with the dying 7 year old and dead cyclist in the road Hes not RAF hes SAS and Hes the trigger man He tortured her to get her parents to answer questions Why else would you pistol whip a girl and shoot her in the shoulder Seek medical help you moron. You are clearly just a shill here to derail this thread and make us all look like idiots. It was a busy'ish road, and the whole shooting was hurried, you don't "torture" a kid by shooting her and pistol whipping her senseless - if the man needed to be forced to give info there are far easier ways of doing it in the UK - I.e. in his own detached home. SAS my arse! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My boss just came back from France. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11147515 Apparently, word on the ground is that there may have been a dispute over some inheritance involving the father. That would explain why the older girl was attacked and the younger one was hidden by her mother. They had to get rid of any one who might have a claim on the estate. Also it might explain why it was so messy. A family would probably not hire a professional hitman but rather a thug with a gun. Amnothet Brit spook trying to put everyone off the scent. You chappies are so lame, you are grasping at straws now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | doublet-tap is a term that's used in such assassination jobs, right? Quoting: Free Planet 18236988 two to chest, one to head? educate me, people. Double tap means two very quick shots. SAS are trained to aim for the torso as head shots are far harder to pull off. Putting a barrel to a forehead is a different matter, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | doublet-tap is a term that's used in such assassination jobs, right? Quoting: Free Planet 18236988 two to chest, one to head? educate me, people. Nope, news coming through that the DOUBLE TAP happened to each member of the family, two shots to the centre of the head. Looking like a professional hit more and more, based on calibre of automatic gun used. :( First reports say automatic fire Then 15 scattered shots Then three single shots to the forehead Then one woman was not shot at all Then now we have TWO shot to each forehead What a load of old bollocks fed to us by the spooks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Tess2012 Today they're saying that they've received "credible information from British intelligence" that the brother had a family feud over what the dead man inherited. They're implying that the brother paid a hitman. Now call me silly, but if the brother wanted to take over his inheritance, surely the hitman would have been given full details of the family and instructions to take them all out. But the girls were left alive, and they'll inherit their father's money. Whatever, it seems clear that this is what they're going along with. UPDATE: Quoting: Tess2012 Today they're saying that they've received "credible information from British intelligence" that the brother had a family feud over what the dead man inherited. They're implying that the brother paid a hitman. Now call me silly, but if the brother wanted to take over his inheritance, surely the hitman would have been given full details of the family and instructions to take them all out. But the girls were left alive, and they'll inherit their father's money. Whatever, it seems clear that this is what they're going along with. PRECISELY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It also emerged yesterday that Mr al-Hilli had recently become involved in a bitter legal dispute over an inheritance worth more than €1.2million. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9977516 Family friend Zaid Alabdi said: “He told me he had employed lawyers and was involved in a dispute over a lot of money.” Iraqi-born Mr Alabdi said the al-Hilli family regularly took summer holidays at the same French campsite. [link to www.mirror.co.uk] It appears he'd been living in fear of his life for quite a few months according to his neighbour. And as an attempt was made to take the whole family out, it's more than likely an inheritance issue. Which is what his fear was related to. Why just pistol whip the girl then? She was shot in the shoulder. Did they run out of bullets? They could easily have broken the girl's neck or slit her throat. And of course they also missed the OTHER girl, who would survive to collect her inheritance. Remember, there is a UK govt D notice out forbidding any UK editor from revealing all the sensitive nuclear etc information on this thread. The brother is now being set up as a patsy, whilst Mossad or whomever get away with another hit, and no diplomatic incident results. Wake up and don't fall for this bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | General Yossi Ben Hanan (chief of defence at Paris Israeli embassy) has been flown from Paris to Chambery Airport according to Press TV. Chambrey is only a short drive from the site of the killing. He was 20 minutes on the tarmac before he left with three extra passengers. The helicopter flew on to Geneva Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22864183 Quelle surprise!?!?! So the Kidon team comprised three. Pretty much as I thought. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23284377 United States 09/07/2012 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: Quoting: Tess2012 Today they're saying that they've received "credible information from British intelligence" that the brother had a family feud over what the dead man inherited. They're implying that the brother paid a hitman. Now call me silly, but if the brother wanted to take over his inheritance, surely the hitman would have been given full details of the family and instructions to take them all out. But the girls were left alive, and they'll inherit their father's money. Whatever, it seems clear that this is what they're going along with. UPDATE: Quoting: Tess2012 Today they're saying that they've received "credible information from British intelligence" that the brother had a family feud over what the dead man inherited. They're implying that the brother paid a hitman. Now call me silly, but if the brother wanted to take over his inheritance, surely the hitman would have been given full details of the family and instructions to take them all out. But the girls were left alive, and they'll inherit their father's money. Whatever, it seems clear that this is what they're going along with. PRECISELY! Now there is a scapegoat |
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THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23335231 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds more and more like a cover-up. There having a news conference at 16:00 GMT, lets see what they add to it. Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
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Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/07/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all got all wrong, the key to the mystery is the French cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, (5 bullets) he worked for Cyzus, partners with Areva (Nuclear Fuel) Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all got all wrong, the key to the mystery is the French cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, (5 bullets) he worked for Cyzus, partners with Areva (Nuclear Fuel) Quoting: Aristide Torchia "We all got all wrong, the key to the mystery is the French cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, (5 bullets) he worked for Cyzus, partners with Areva (Nuclear Fuel)" Now if that is true, it really get Machiavellian. It would mean such pre-planning would be needed as to boggle the mind. To know Sylvain would be cycling up that hill that day, and to have the Beemer stop in that small lay-by/car park for a pre-arranged rendezvous, and all of them whacked at the same time as Sylvain reached the car? I agree that 5 bullets though seems somewhat excessive. Did Sylvain also have two to the forehead??? ??? |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/07/2012 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all got all wrong, the key to the mystery is the French cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, (5 bullets) he worked for Cyzus, partners with Areva (Nuclear Fuel) Quoting: Aristide Torchia Technology swap? or Wrong place at the wrong time... don't fcuk with the french, brits or mossad :/ They all had a meeting...in the remote woods.. The Iraqi's (Drones, aerial technology) (AMS 1087) The French, Nuclear fuel, Zirconium (Cyzus) The Brit, (Royal Air Force) Now, why they met, is another question... Last Edited by Aristide Torchia on 09/07/2012 10:54 AM Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23335231 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11634244 Canada 09/07/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why? How about this: [link to www.liveleak.com] Sounds like Zircaloy has a long history of failure. Who could be making the fuel rods for Iran? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11634244 Canada 09/07/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | General Yossi Ben Hanan (chief of defence at Paris Israeli embassy) has been flown from Paris to Chambery Airport according to Press TV. Chambrey is only a short drive from the site of the killing. He was 20 minutes on the tarmac before he left with three extra passengers. The helicopter flew on to Geneva Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22864183 Geneva. Figures. |
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23335231 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the french authority are not saying anything new, the third swedish woman is the key to this mystery. The little girl has said she has seen the swedish woman before but did not know her very well. Too many questions, if the older girl survives we might get more answers. Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21335503 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all got all wrong, the key to the mystery is the French cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, (5 bullets) he worked for Cyzus, partners with Areva (Nuclear Fuel) Quoting: Aristide Torchia Technology swap? or Wrong place at the wrong time... don't fcuk with the french, brits or mossad :/ They all had a meeting...in the remote woods.. The Iraqi's (Drones, aerial technology) (AMS 1087) The French, Nuclear fuel, Zirconium (Cyzus) The Brit, (Royal Air Force) Now, why they met, is another question... OK I understand your logic, it is possible I guess. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11634244 Canada 09/07/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like they took a page from this book: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Right down to the convenient patsy. |
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23335231 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is anyone watching the french prosecutor? He started flapping when asked about how many men and if it was a execution. He replied "the men who did this were not afraid to kill" The victims brother has come out saying he had no feud with his brother, how long before they manage to set him up? Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11634244 Canada 09/07/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | General Yossi Ben Hanan (chief of defence at Paris Israeli embassy) has been flown from Paris to Chambery Airport according to Press TV. Chambrey is only a short drive from the site of the killing. He was 20 minutes on the tarmac before he left with three extra passengers. The helicopter flew on to Geneva Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22864183 Quelle surprise!?!?! So the Kidon team comprised three. Pretty much as I thought. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Head of SIBAT, the Israeli Defense Ministry's developing countries defense assistance division. Is France a developing country? Not. |
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23335231 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also no one heard gunshots, sounds like they may have used suppressers. Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
alexisj9 User ID: 1376880 United Kingdom 09/07/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is anyone watching the french prosecutor? He started flapping when asked about how many men and if it was a execution. He replied "the men who did this were not afraid to kill" Quoting: THE DOGS BOLLOCKS The victims brother has come out saying he had no feud with his brother, how long before they manage to set him up? Well the quoted sentence says more then enough. |