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Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nuclear link to French Alps massacre: Murdered Saad al-Hilli worked at top-secret British lab: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23449690 [link to www.mirror.co.uk] Great catch dudester!!!!, so we have them both working for nuke companies, al Hilli and the French cyclist, for (Cyzus) Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Slain Brit Saad al-Hilli had links to a top-secret British nuclear lab, we can reveal. Iraqi-born engineer Saad, 50, worked at the internationally-renowned Rutherford Appleton research centre in the 1980s. His links to the lab will fuel conspiracy theories about the gun attack which left the dad of two, his wife Ikbal and another woman dead in their BMW in the French Alps on Wednesday. Our revelation follows claims that Saad's family had owned an engineering plant in Iraq, that he was spied on by Special Branch during the Gulf War and that his aerial satellite photo firm worked for the Ministry of Defence. According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material. In May one of its former physicists Dr Adlene Hicheur was jailed for five years for plotting al Qaeda attacks. The link come from the above French dudester Here's the link to the Al Qaeda scientist who work alongside Al Hilli Last Edited by Aristide Torchia on 09/09/2012 12:40 PM Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23335231 United Kingdom 09/09/2012 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think they were in the wrong place at the wrong time saw the ciclist geting shot and they were the witneses and tryed to turn around and drive away but as they were backing up to turn round they were hit,the girl must have got out of the car and ran for her life then returned after the shooter had gone to see her parents and the other ciclist then saw her and phoned for help.they were on a regular family holiday with there kids an ordinary family, Quoting: no ordinary person i think they have nothing to do with this and were wittneses to the other bloke on bike being shot.if this irac bloke was the target they would have waited till he was alone not when he was with the whole family. poor poor children i feel so sorry for them especialy the 4 year old girl as she was apparently very clingy and all her mom,now it must be very scary and sad for her, children that age dont understand death properly.its very very sad. Its a horrible situation for the children, something that will live with them for the rest of their lives, indeed tragic. Your theroy is possible, but it still leaves some questions. Why was saad al-hilli so stressed before leaving? Why did he tell a neighbour he had important documents hidden in is house? why did the french prosecutor say that 4 year old zena did not know who the older woman was and had only met her a few times, but now she is a elderly relative? surely even a child of 4 would know her grandmother? If the cyclist was the target why do it in that spot, when the road futher up is closed for cars and ideal for a ambush? why was the 7 year old shot in the shoulder, when her family had been shot in the head twice? There are many more questions, but few answers at this stage, but something is most disturbing about the whole thing. I hope it is finished quickly and the killers found so the girls can get on with the rest of their lives. Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23449690 France 09/09/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nuclear link to French Alps massacre: Murdered Saad al-Hilli worked at top-secret British lab: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23449690 [link to www.mirror.co.uk] Great catch dudester!!!!, so we have them both working for nuke companies, al Hilli and the French cyclist, for (Cyzus) Thanks Some quotes: “Saad didn’t like Americans and didn’t mind saying so. He would tell me about things they were doing in Iraq which hadn’t been reported here and when I looked into them they seemed to be true.” In May one of its former physicists Dr Adlene Hicheur was jailed for five years for plotting al Qaeda attacks. |
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23335231 United Kingdom 09/09/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nuclear link to French Alps massacre: Murdered Saad al-Hilli worked at top-secret British lab: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23449690 [link to www.mirror.co.uk] Great catch dudester!!!!, so we have them both working for nuke companies, al Hilli and the French cyclist, for (Cyzus) Thanks Some quotes: “Saad didn’t like Americans and didn’t mind saying so. He would tell me about things they were doing in Iraq which hadn’t been reported here and when I looked into them they seemed to be true.” In May one of its former physicists Dr Adlene Hicheur was jailed for five years for plotting al Qaeda attacks. Great link, but now I have even more questions, the plot has most definitley thickened, I hope we get the truth and not some cover up, where some patsy gets the blame. Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11634244 Canada 09/09/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iran is using dometically-produced fuel for its reactors. Where would they get a supply of zirconium to clad the fuel rods? [link to www.cezus-consult.com] |
Conrach User ID: 18402618 United Kingdom 09/09/2012 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think they were in the wrong place at the wrong time saw the ciclist geting shot and they were the witneses and tryed to turn around and drive away but as they were backing up to turn round they were hit,the girl must have got out of the car and ran for her life then returned after the shooter had gone to see her parents and the other ciclist then saw her and phoned for help.they were on a regular family holiday with there kids an ordinary family, Quoting: no ordinary person i think they have nothing to do with this and were wittneses to the other bloke on bike being shot.if this irac bloke was the target they would have waited till he was alone not when he was with the whole family. poor poor children i feel so sorry for them especialy the 4 year old girl as she was apparently very clingy and all her mom,now it must be very scary and sad for her, children that age dont understand death properly.its very very sad. Its a horrible situation for the children, something that will live with them for the rest of their lives, indeed tragic. Your theroy is possible, but it still leaves some questions. Why was saad al-hilli so stressed before leaving? Why did he tell a neighbour he had important documents hidden in is house? why did the french prosecutor say that 4 year old zena did not know who the older woman was and had only met her a few times, but now she is a elderly relative? surely even a child of 4 would know her grandmother? If the cyclist was the target why do it in that spot, when the road futher up is closed for cars and ideal for a ambush? why was the 7 year old shot in the shoulder, when her family had been shot in the head twice? There are many more questions, but few answers at this stage, but something is most disturbing about the whole thing. I hope it is finished quickly and the killers found so the girls can get on with the rest of their lives. Also why was the Letters Rogatory processed in 24 hours? The French had just cause to search the house and the British knew it! It turns the whole case round to the victims. The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity. George Bernard Shaw, All great truths begin as blasphemies. George Bernard Shaw |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iran is using dometically-produced fuel for its reactors. Where would they get a supply of zirconium to clad the fuel rods? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11634244 [link to www.cezus-consult.com] Ok, then, these new dots could point to a Mossad hit, except the kids, they wouldn't bash a 7 year old on the head so as to leave her for dead Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11634244 Canada 09/09/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Slightly different take on the Swedish connection from Canada (AP reports) Mae Faisal El-Wailly, a childhood friend of the brothers, made available a letter written to her by Saad last year that alluded to a possible inheritance dispute….But El-Wailly added that she did not believe Zaid had anything to do with the killings…..Swedish authorities have confirmed that a passport discovered on the scene corresponds to a Swedish person living in Sweden. But as of yet no absolute connection has been made between the older woman in the car and the passport or between her and the rest of the victims, authorities said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21335503 8 Sept, [link to metronews.ca] That's bizarre.Why would this woman travel on a day out with her passport? Is that normal and if so why didn't anyone else have their passports with them then? There's always a random PASSPORT in these kinds of incidents. Reminds me of the random passport that just happened to be found at the 9/11 site that "just happened" to belong to one of the perps. Remember the faked passports belonging to real, live people? [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] One of the passports had the name of a pregnant woman living in Australia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23451689 Slovenia 09/09/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is it not obvious that he was there to meet the cyclist???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23459271 thats why they were both killed ... the information had already been passed over? He was the one who got the most attention (7 shots), he was the one who could not live to be a witness. he worked for Areva (nuclear Fuel), Al Hilli for Space and Drone technology, an Iranian link? getting hot around the keche foundation before the 21st ::)) |
Conrach User ID: 18402618 United Kingdom 09/09/2012 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A very short but interesting thread here: [link to www.aliraqi.org] The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity. George Bernard Shaw, All great truths begin as blasphemies. George Bernard Shaw |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11634244 Canada 09/09/2012 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From 2006, a story about British officials clearing a shipment of zirconium for export to Iran. Bulgarian officials were on the ball, and stopped the shipment. After some negotiations with British authorities, the shipment was cleared and continued on its way to Iran. [link to www.tribuneindia.com] Further details in other news media. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11634244 Canada 09/09/2012 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to articles.cnn.com] Natanz is where Iran's nuclear fuel rods are being made. [link to articles.cnn.com] Earlier this year, another Iranian nuclear scientist, Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, was killed by a motorcycle bomber. Did his work involve the nuclear fuel rods? |
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Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My gut feeling is that he selling "technological" information to the Iranians through the Frenchman (dead cyclist 7 bullets), and he got wacked Last Edited by Aristide Torchia on 09/09/2012 01:58 PM Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
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THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23464530 United Kingdom 09/09/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe your right, could have been selling secrets. Maybe he was planning on blowing the lid on some goverment conspiracy, looking at how the police are ripping his house apart they are looking for something, they have been there a long time now. Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23464530 United Kingdom 09/09/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material. Quoting: Aristide Torchia [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Nice find dude, this is getting very murky, almost like a spy film, all we are missing is a bad guy with a white cat. Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material. Quoting: Aristide Torchia [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Nice find dude, this is getting very murky, almost like a spy film, all we are missing is a bad guy with a white cat. Thanks mate! Everything seems to revolve around "Nuclear material", the Frenchman worked for Arera, (Uranium) An ex-companion worker of Al Hilli was arrested very recently trying to sell CERN secrets to Al Qaeda, his name was Dr Adlene Hicheur, both he and Saad al Hilli worked for the same top secret lab. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material. And now read this: A brilliant young nuclear scientist who was arrested in France last week over alleged links to Al Qaeda had worked for a top-secret British nuclear research centre. Last night fears were growing that Dr Adlene Hicheur – who was a researcher for the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire for a year – could have been planning a nuclear attack in the UK. The French government said yesterday that the arrest of Hicheur, 32, and his brother Dr Halim Hicheur, 25, could have averted a terrorist atrocity. They were seized after an 18-month investigation by French anti-terrorist police hours before Adlene Hicheur was due to travel to the laboratory where he now works at, CERN, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research near Geneva. Halim Hicheur carries out research at similar high-security scientific institutions around Europe. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] You see the pattern... Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 7485754 Switzerland 09/09/2012 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material. Quoting: Aristide Torchia And now read this: A brilliant young nuclear scientist who was arrested in France last week over alleged links to Al Qaeda had worked for a top-secret British nuclear research centre. Last night fears were growing that Dr Adlene Hicheur – who was a researcher for the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire for a year – could have been planning a nuclear attack in the UK. The French government said yesterday that the arrest of Hicheur, 32, and his brother Dr Halim Hicheur, 25, could have averted a terrorist atrocity. They were seized after an 18-month investigation by French anti-terrorist police hours before Adlene Hicheur was due to travel to the laboratory where he now works at, CERN, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research near Geneva. Halim Hicheur carries out research at similar high-security scientific institutions around Europe. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] You see the pattern... Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
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THE DOGS BOLLOCKS User ID: 23464530 United Kingdom 09/09/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material. Quoting: Aristide Torchia And now read this: A brilliant young nuclear scientist who was arrested in France last week over alleged links to Al Qaeda had worked for a top-secret British nuclear research centre. Last night fears were growing that Dr Adlene Hicheur – who was a researcher for the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire for a year – could have been planning a nuclear attack in the UK. The French government said yesterday that the arrest of Hicheur, 32, and his brother Dr Halim Hicheur, 25, could have averted a terrorist atrocity. They were seized after an 18-month investigation by French anti-terrorist police hours before Adlene Hicheur was due to travel to the laboratory where he now works at, CERN, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research near Geneva. Halim Hicheur carries out research at similar high-security scientific institutions around Europe. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] You see the pattern... Wow good find dude, this is serious stuff, maybe some kind of dirty bomb was planned. Last Edited by THE DOG'S BOLLOCKS on 09/09/2012 03:33 PM Its a dog-eat-dog world and I got bigger teeth than you. There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh |