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'British' family shot in France were Iraqi,..

 
Aristide Torchia

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According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material.

And now read this:

A brilliant young nuclear scientist who was arrested in France last week over alleged links to Al Qaeda had worked for a top-secret British nuclear research centre.
Last night fears were growing that Dr Adlene Hicheur – who was a researcher for the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire for a year – could have been planning a nuclear attack in the UK.
The French government said yesterday that the arrest of Hicheur, 32, and his brother Dr Halim Hicheur, 25, could have averted a terrorist atrocity.
They were seized after an 18-month investigation by French anti-terrorist police hours before Adlene Hicheur was due to travel to the laboratory where he now works at, CERN, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research near Geneva.
Halim Hicheur carries out research at similar high-security scientific institutions around Europe.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

You see the pattern...
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia

 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


Wow good find dude, this is serious stuff, maybe some kind of dirty bomb was planned.
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Thanks mate, I'm not even sure the police know of this link, maybe they should check godlike to find the killers
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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Its sickening there are people out there capable of carrying out an attack like this.
A professional hit like this would have been carried out by a team of killers, probably 3 or 4.
Whats REALLY scary, is these people are probably working for and trained by a government.
The funny thing is there is already attempts being made to spin this into being the dead guys fault and linking him to al qaeda, and make him out to be some sort of evil mastermind trying to carry out a nuclear attack or sell nuclear secrets.
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In a previous post I asked could anyone confirm the rumours that the Swedish passport didn't belong to the older lady.

It WAS confirmed today in a press conference by the Prosecutor Mr Maillaud.

"Mr Maillaud says: The Swedish authorities have been contacted. The only confirmation we have is the passport corresponds to a person of Swedish nationality who lives in Sweden.

At the moment no link has been made between the passport and the older woman or her relationship to the family."

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]

This is details of todays Press conference.
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A Traitors end....
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My gut feeling is that he selling "technological" information to the Iranians through the Frenchman (dead cyclist 7 bullets), and he got wacked
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


It is significant, IMO, that the shootings occurred in France, not far from a factory where zirconium, tantalum, and hafnium are processed into an alloy. Zircaloy is used as cladding on nuclear fuel rods. The ability to make fuel rods seems to have been holding Iran's nuclear capabilities back.

It could be a matter of selling secrets, as well as someone selling product.

The location must play a factor in this story. Is is mere coicidence that the French bicyclist worked for Areva subisidiary Cezus Ugine?
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According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material.

And now read this:

A brilliant young nuclear scientist who was arrested in France last week over alleged links to Al Qaeda had worked for a top-secret British nuclear research centre.
Last night fears were growing that Dr Adlene Hicheur – who was a researcher for the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire for a year – could have been planning a nuclear attack in the UK.
The French government said yesterday that the arrest of Hicheur, 32, and his brother Dr Halim Hicheur, 25, could have averted a terrorist atrocity.
They were seized after an 18-month investigation by French anti-terrorist police hours before Adlene Hicheur was due to travel to the laboratory where he now works at, CERN, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research near Geneva.
Halim Hicheur carries out research at similar high-security scientific institutions around Europe.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

You see the pattern...
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


Yes, Geneva. It's close to Chevaline.
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A few pages back, someone brought up the issue of the al-Hilli family living in an expensive house. The media has explained that al-Hilli and his brother lived there with their parents. Upon the father's death, Saad is said to have inherited the house from the estate.

[link to www.cbc.ca]

So, was the family living off an inheritance? Saad's company is said to have assets of about $13,000. Are records of inheritances/probate public in the UK? Is the search of the family home meant to uncover bank statements for out-of-country accounts, including money transfers? Geneva is close to the scene of the shootings.
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According to an ex-colleague at the Rutherford lab in Didcot, Oxon, Saad worked on a giant particle accelerator which can make radioactive material.

And now read this:

A brilliant young nuclear scientist who was arrested in France last week over alleged links to Al Qaeda had worked for a top-secret British nuclear research centre.
Last night fears were growing that Dr Adlene Hicheur – who was a researcher for the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire for a year – could have been planning a nuclear attack in the UK.
The French government said yesterday that the arrest of Hicheur, 32, and his brother Dr Halim Hicheur, 25, could have averted a terrorist atrocity.
They were seized after an 18-month investigation by French anti-terrorist police hours before Adlene Hicheur was due to travel to the laboratory where he now works at, CERN, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research near Geneva.
Halim Hicheur carries out research at similar high-security scientific institutions around Europe.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

You see the pattern...
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


isn't it generally accepted that its actually al CIAda

how does that fit

either the boggy man is real, or not

so whose side is the jailed guy of

too many twists

to understand
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maybe the family was "escaping" to sweden
swedish lady was to guide them into country
random killed biker was also to go

all for protection

raf biker: spying on them, or spotter for shooters

trajectory of bullets would be interesting

were the shooters snipers and ground force combined?

bump and suggest pin
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in addition to above

were gonna turn over proof, or whatever that

all the fuel rods are shit

fukushima meltdown

maybe even that "someone" was actually sending iran "meltdown rods"

fully flawed, maybe reject scrap

think about it bomb their stuff, or if they are lagit in only wanting nuke electricity

sell bumm stuff and let them trash their own country

kind of a suxnet one two punch
bum software to exploit the flaws in the product

maybe the ariel spying was to confirm that japan, a formitable economic player (now train wrecked)who used the same stuff got f'd over

way too many questions, and no answers

stay tuned same bat time, same bat channel
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09/10/2012 01:38 AM
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I don't know why THE WHOLE WORLD seems very surprised that Corporate GOvernment has KILL SQUADS that go in and terminate 'dangerous opposition' to PROFIT.

It's been going on for centuries... even Emperor Caesar got 'whacked'.

You get rid of PROFIT on this insane rock in space, you get rid of most petty and corporate and COVERT crimes such as these.

Fact... PROFIT needs protecting, like SLAVERY.
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In a previous post I asked could anyone confirm the rumours that the Swedish passport didn't belong to the older lady.

It WAS confirmed today in a press conference by the Prosecutor Mr Maillaud.

"Mr Maillaud says: The Swedish authorities have been contacted. The only confirmation we have is the passport corresponds to a person of Swedish nationality who lives in Sweden.

At the moment no link has been made between the passport and the older woman or her relationship to the family."

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]

This is details of todays Press conference.
 Quoting: Conrach


Again nice one dude, This "SWEDISH" woman is key I think to the whole thing. They continue to tear his house apart today, they are looking for something hidden no doubt about it, it would not take them three days to collect bank statements.
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the police are now asking residents to leave the area of family home in surrey.
Alps Shooting: Police Cordon Off Family Home

[link to news.sky.com]
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the police are now asking residents to leave the area of family home in surrey.
Alps Shooting: Police Cordon Off Family Home

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A dirty bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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the police are now asking residents to leave the area of family home in surrey.
Alps Shooting: Police Cordon Off Family Home

[link to news.sky.com]
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A dirty bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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shit man, thats what i thought first too!
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who was it who asked, "To plant what?"

LOL at the Cynicism Made Real with this 'evacuation' news.
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In a previous post I asked could anyone confirm the rumours that the Swedish passport didn't belong to the older lady.

It WAS confirmed today in a press conference by the Prosecutor Mr Maillaud.

"Mr Maillaud says: The Swedish authorities have been contacted. The only confirmation we have is the passport corresponds to a person of Swedish nationality who lives in Sweden.

At the moment no link has been made between the passport and the older woman or her relationship to the family."

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]

This is details of todays Press conference.
 Quoting: Conrach


Again nice one dude, This "SWEDISH" woman is key I think to the whole thing. They continue to tear his house apart today, they are looking for something hidden no doubt about it, it would not take them three days to collect bank statements.
 Quoting: THE DOG'S BOLLOCKS


Thanks :-)
I have just read that the elderly woman was the girls grandmother! [link to www.mirror.co.uk]
There still appears to be some confusion over the passport though and they still state that the 4 year old claims not to have known the woman.
I have also wondered why the 7 year old wasn't in school. English schools went back at least a week before the shootings. The family had already been in France 3 weeks touring. How long did they plan to stay? As you know, you need permission to take children out of school in England during term-time. Was this permission asked for? I think this would show whether it was an extended holiday or if they were fleeing/hiding.
oh and it's dudette! lol
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the police are now asking residents to leave the area of family home in surrey.
Alps Shooting: Police Cordon Off Family Home

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A dirty bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


Fully armed police officer with full hazards protective gear were seen entering the house this morning, then an alert has been issued, the neighborhood is being evacuated and cordoned off...I tell you, this man was working on a dirty bomb...what else could it be...see this other scientist who worked in the very same lab as Saad al Hilli: his name is Adline Hisheur, check it out
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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BREAKING - People living on Oaken Lane in #Claygate have been EVACUATED FROM THEIR HOMES due to concerns about an item found.


what the hell is going on there!?
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what the hell is going on there!?
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Dirty bomb, I tell ya, there could be no other explanation

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Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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what the hell is going on there!?
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Dirty bomb, I tell ya, there could be no other explanation
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maybe just a gas canister or something..but it's SCARY as hell!
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what the hell is going on there!?
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Dirty bomb, I tell ya, there could be no other explanation
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One of the many Islamic sleepy cells ?









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what the hell is going on there!?
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Dirty bomb, I tell ya, there could be no other explanation
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maybe just a gas canister or something..but it's SCARY as hell!
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A gas canister, are you kidding me, 2 bullets in the head each for a gas canister!!!
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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what the hell is going on there!?
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Dirty bomb, I tell ya, there could be no other explanation
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Or maybe they want to cover, hide something.
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All roads leading to the house now cordoned off, the entire neighborhood has been clearer for 1km, just now on skynews
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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In a previous post I asked could anyone confirm the rumours that the Swedish passport didn't belong to the older lady.

It WAS confirmed today in a press conference by the Prosecutor Mr Maillaud.

"Mr Maillaud says: The Swedish authorities have been contacted. The only confirmation we have is the passport corresponds to a person of Swedish nationality who lives in Sweden.

At the moment no link has been made between the passport and the older woman or her relationship to the family."

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]

This is details of todays Press conference.
 Quoting: Conrach


Again nice one dude, This "SWEDISH" woman is key I think to the whole thing. They continue to tear his house apart today, they are looking for something hidden no doubt about it, it would not take them three days to collect bank statements.
 Quoting: THE DOG'S BOLLOCKS


Thanks :-)
I have just read that the elderly woman was the girls grandmother! [link to www.mirror.co.uk]
There still appears to be some confusion over the passport though and they still state that the 4 year old claims not to have known the woman.
I have also wondered why the 7 year old wasn't in school. English schools went back at least a week before the shootings. The family had already been in France 3 weeks touring. How long did they plan to stay? As you know, you need permission to take children out of school in England during term-time. Was this permission asked for? I think this would show whether it was an extended holiday or if they were fleeing/hiding.
oh and it's dudette! lol
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Sorry dudette :), Good point about the kids though, schools in england are tough on kids having time off during term time and always limit it to a certain amount of time. The whole grandmother thing is very confusing, maybe bad information or misinformation.
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All roads leading to the house now cordoned off, the entire neighborhood has been clearer for 1km, just now on skynews
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holy crap!

hiding
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the police are now asking residents to leave the area of family home in surrey.
Alps Shooting: Police Cordon Off Family Home

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I did comment here yesterday that I found it odd that armed police went in with firearms officers yesterday after the initial forensic search on Saturday. This is getting curiouser and curiouser!
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Are they setting him up or was he actually making/had some kind of dirty bomb?

Some of this could be for show, surely a device would not take 3 days to find? this is one of the most complex cases I have ever seen.
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There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. - Sun Tzu

Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu

One should not interpret the word “Revolution” in its literal sense. Various meanings and significances are attributed to this word, according to the interests of those who use or misuse it. For the established agencies of exploitation it conjures up a feeling of blood stained horror. To the revolutionaries it is a sacred phrase. - Bhagat Singh
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An extremely dangerous item has been found inside the home of Al Hilli, a 1km exclusion zone has been set up, mass evacuation under way, just now on BBC TV
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An extremely dangerous item has been found inside the home of Al Hilli, a 1km exclusion zone has been set up, mass evacuation under way, just now on BBC TV
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is this for real?





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