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BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........

 
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I don't give a fuck what Obama does to prop everything up because I still will NEVER vote for that scumbag...........
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09/06/2012 02:23 PM
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
I thought the German Constitutional Court still had something to say about this...

Sept. 12???
 Quoting: Saddletramp


the bailout (ESM) isn't needed anymore if the central bank just buys bonds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976158


Really? Well it is unconstitutional for sure, but that means shit in our days it seems, Greek Justice found the bailouts unconstitutional too but we all saw what happened. Hope German Justice do more about it. So you think that it won't happen?
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They won't do anything about it. Prepare for hyperinflation.
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exactly!
and the wealth is stolen...i dont think people will find that funny.
prepare for civil war too.
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09/06/2012 02:32 PM
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This wont end well ...
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Creation of a EUSSR superstate is how it will end.
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yep.

These Euro Tsars will do anything to keep their empire going.

Never mind, it's how every empire has ever fallen. Hubristic overreach.

In practical terms this will just encourage other EU nations to just keep spending because they know the EU will bail them out. What a complete mess this is all going to end in...
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09/06/2012 02:50 PM
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This wont end well ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23277311


Creation of a EUSSR superstate is how it will end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14317225


yep.

These Euro Tsars will do anything to keep their empire going.

Never mind, it's how every empire has ever fallen. Hubristic overreach.

In practical terms this will just encourage other EU nations to just keep spending because they know the EU will bail them out. What a complete mess this is all going to end in...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19198791


WAR!
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09/06/2012 02:51 PM
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German court will reject the bailouts, dont ask me how. i know it.
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09/06/2012 02:53 PM
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
I'd still like to know hoe people react to these news.

Take a huge loan and invest it it property, waiting for the state to pay ot off or getting debt free?
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09/06/2012 02:55 PM
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[link to email.angelnexus.com]

Seeds, soil, bullets, and water.

If you're investing in anything right now, those four items should be at the top of your list.
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09/06/2012 02:58 PM
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Seeds, soil, bullets, and water.

If you're investing in anything right now, those four items should be at the top of your list.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976158


Yes but what if I take a huge loan, buying soil and waiting for the crash. Will they let me go or will they say I'm a debt slave forced to work for food?
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09/06/2012 03:04 PM
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Seeds, soil, bullets, and water.

If you're investing in anything right now, those four items should be at the top of your list.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976158


Yes but what if I take a huge loan, buying soil and waiting for the crash. Will they let me go or will they say I'm a debt slave forced to work for food?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20578758


rule #1 dont take loans
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09/06/2012 03:06 PM
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This wont end well ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23277311


Creation of a EUSSR superstate is how it will end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14317225


yep.

These Euro Tsars will do anything to keep their empire going.

Never mind, it's how every empire has ever fallen. Hubristic overreach.

In practical terms this will just encourage other EU nations to just keep spending because they know the EU will bail them out. What a complete mess this is all going to end in...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19198791


WAR!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22701660


Well, my German cousin, nothing they do will get me involved.
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09/06/2012 03:08 PM
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Seeds, soil, bullets, and water.

If you're investing in anything right now, those four items should be at the top of your list.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976158


Yes but what if I take a huge loan, buying soil and waiting for the crash. Will they let me go or will they say I'm a debt slave forced to work for food?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20578758


rule #1 dont take loans
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976158


I agree but I want to know how the rulers think. Are they going to let all people get debt free after the crash or will they force people to work their debts off?

MANY people in Sweden have loans they cannot pay back during their life time. THis is becoming a norm. We are a poor country right now if you look at the individuals loans.
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09/06/2012 03:16 PM
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
So this means that the banks takes full, unlimited ownerships of the governments!
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Yes and its legal, all EU Countries sold their sould in 2009. And now the devil will take all the souls.

All European Citizens should stand up and fight against this sht. We will be dead sooner or later, so the Banksters will move to Asia , to destroy them.
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09/06/2012 03:17 PM
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The only question is he terrible this is going o be. Very or very very.
I only hope there will be enough sane and sensible grown-ups around afterwards to repair the damage that will be done to people lives.

This is not going to be pretty, mark my words.
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09/06/2012 03:19 PM
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Well, my German cousin, nothing they do will get me involved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19198791


Sorry this is no offense, but England is protecting the banksters in London.

They sold you out in the 80is, believe me, England will be in the same sht soon, when the banksters move to Bejing.
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09/06/2012 03:23 PM
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
A theory of mine is that all peoples loans will be reduced.

The ones that got money will be taxed to death to pay the others loans. The bankers will get their money and a new economy will be developed.

An economy where "the old mistakes" will not be repeated.

Everybody will use their new economic system that may enforce the.. mark
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09/06/2012 03:25 PM
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Seeds, soil, bullets, and water.

If you're investing in anything right now, those four items should be at the top of your list.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976158


Yes but what if I take a huge loan, buying soil and waiting for the crash. Will they let me go or will they say I'm a debt slave forced to work for food?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20578758


rule #1 dont take loans
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976158


I agree but I want to know how the rulers think. Are they going to let all people get debt free after the crash or will they force people to work their debts off?

MANY people in Sweden have loans they cannot pay back during their life time. THis is becoming a norm. We are a poor country right now if you look at the individuals loans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20578758


Just so my friend.

I was only thinking the other day that Americans have an idea that Europeans are rich or at least on a par with most US citizens.

But, most people in the UK are hard up/in deep debt and our experience is of a more impoverished country than US and Canada are.

My guess is that there will be no debt jubilee, they will expect us to pay everything off with high interest.
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09/06/2012 03:27 PM
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
spain and italy can now just issue bond of less than 3 years and as many as they need to and their gov/banks will have no more problem with money shortage....
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09/06/2012 03:48 PM
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German court will reject the bailouts, dont ask me how. i know it.
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wishful thinking
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09/06/2012 03:52 PM
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German court will reject the bailouts, dont ask me how. i know it.
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wishful thinking
 Quoting: Vandetta7


Well even if they do, it does only mean future bailouts would be stopped, the money they spend is gone.

This hole mess has allready gone too far and should end.
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09/06/2012 03:57 PM
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
Every little company going into mess would be allready bancrupt and they would grab the last cents they can get out of it.

So would be private persons they would even throw you in jail, if you wouldn´t sell.

But hey make some billions debt and suddenly someone gives you the money isn´t that awesome ?

We should all go, and just buy everthing we could get and if it´s pay day, we say no money here bail me out plz.
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09/06/2012 04:13 PM
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
Every little company going into mess would be allready bancrupt and they would grab the last cents they can get out of it.

So would be private persons they would even throw you in jail, if you wouldn´t sell.

But hey make some billions debt and suddenly someone gives you the money isn´t that awesome ?

We should all go, and just buy everthing we could get and if it´s pay day, we say no money here bail me out plz.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23296045


Yes, bail me out! We do live in a communistic, sorry I meant wealthy society that can afford to bail everybody out of misery.

This is why it's tempting to just go with the flow. Take a huge loan and the state will bail me out. Communism at it's finest!
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
The entire charade reminds me of the 1930's German "war reparations" charade.... one loan was given to vanquished Germany who paid a portion of the reparations debt to WWI victors ... this loan continually passed from vanquished to victor back to vanquished back to victor over & over.... until the debt was, from an accounting standpoint, paid in full... while in reality nobody paid or got paid... (source: Tragedy & Hope, Carroll Quigley)
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
A theory of mine is that all peoples loans will be reduced.

The ones that got money will be taxed to death to pay the others loans. The bankers will get their money and a new economy will be developed.

An economy where "the old mistakes" will not be repeated.

Everybody will use their new economic system that may enforce the.. mark
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20578758


That is a popular rumor that spreads around these Internet's (sp) from time to time. Why? It is psychological conditioning. If people think their debt will be nullified, they will get that extras and buy more.

Do not fall for it. There is nothing for free. Debt cannot and will not be erased. As the popular 1960's saying goes:

"Ass, grass, or cash, nothing is for free."


Your hard-earned money, is based on hard-worked hours. That is reality. Anything else is destined for a crash. Otherwise,

"Your money for nothing and your chicks for free"


Would be in play!
Mayan Calendar and 2012-
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[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]
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Re: BREAKING - european central bank to buy state bond without any limit to help out EU debt nations........
Every little company going into mess would be allready bancrupt and they would grab the last cents they can get out of it.

So would be private persons they would even throw you in jail, if you wouldn´t sell.

But hey make some billions debt and suddenly someone gives you the money isn´t that awesome ?

We should all go, and just buy everthing we could get and if it´s pay day, we say no money here bail me out plz.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23296045


Yes, bail me out! We do live in a communistic, sorry I meant wealthy society that can afford to bail everybody out of misery.

This is why it's tempting to just go with the flow. Take a huge loan and the state will bail me out. Communism at it's finest!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20578758


True, you dont know sarcasm do you ?

No Company should ever be bailed out by the community, and Banks are companies, so bailing em out is just a waste of money.

And it´s agains every market laws, if you want a free market, you have to be successfull, if someone has better products, you go to waste no point in saveing you.

That is the point they fucked it up, and dont desevre any help.

Whats even worse it doesn´t help the good of all, it only helps some few who depend on this company that failed.

The masses could come along without it.

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