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THE BLACK SUN UNVEILED and the Birthday Child of December 21, 23 , 2012..

 
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Hope OP doesn't mind but can someone here please answer this ...

Thread: What do Christians make of this verse ... When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father ...
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The Black Sun from the bible relates to an eclipse as with the moon turning to blood. But it does not denote a real eclipse but rather the coming together of two deities.

The sack cloth reference is also not real but relates to someone who is dressed in sack cloth.
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the sun represent Adam the moon represents eve as they become one again and the sackcloth is what Adam and eve are wearing figuratively as they are the two witnesses of Rev
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How do you know they are the two witnesses?.
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the bible says God tells the end from the beginning..if you read the beginning of the book you can see the end, it started with Adam and Eve and will end with Adam and eve
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I'm not trying to be a pain but where does it say that?
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Well Wouldn't a rosh hashana hero be nice...

Out of cancer comes the answer. A body for the serpent bearer to take.

His father plants the seed in his mother the archer steed.

Hopefully this is all we need
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It's all a big jewish scam. If you want to get fooled be my guest. Jews,Jews,Jews come on we have been through this. You can't bullshit a catholic.
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Hi Apollo

yes, one can not climb the pyramid to see what´s on top, if he´s not willing to go the same walk into his own underworld. If you have no faith (light) you think all there is, is dark. But when you have faith, you can light that dark and only then you´ll be able to pick up the treasure that lies there for you. It´s in fact so simple, but you´ll never find out, if you haven´t taken that step, that´s the paradox. Life will make you face your darker aspects in some way or another (return of saturn), you as an astrologer know that more than others.

But, yeh... one can always stumble upon oneselfs ego by trying to share wisdom. The thing is, we associate the ego with something negative, because we mainly have become acquainted with it´s negative outgrowths. In fact it´s always the matter, what we make out of it. Even the negative cannot just be avoided, it needs to be lived. If you don´t live it, you can neither transform it, nor can you breath as the human, you really are, imperfect with each fiber of your being.

And I have thought about your idea too, as I was just out to the supermarket buying something.
I think the watchers can arrange something there ;)

Do you know the TV-Series Lost btw?
I always have to think of that very last episode, where everyone met again and they were all reunited in the end.
I love that whole episode, this has always been the way, I´ve felt that and I´m looking forward, hope I can be there then.

rose

Very , very wise Artaius ! very wise ! most of us think Enlightenment as fast track to Messiah complexes and Guru and Yogi type wisdom.. We see ourselves as some heightened Righteous Master of Infinite peace and Samadhi Nirvana...

When in reality we look in the mirror and see the nigredo, the darkness and the spoilage of our beast nature..

We realize that all the outer niceties of earth was simply a cover up to our rotten selfish selves and I have cried like a baby and plunged into more depression realizing what a piece of shit I am ...

Then I realized Im where God put me, for a reason. Everything is where it should be..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST

There will come a time when you believe everything ends.
This will be the beginning
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~ A r c t u r u s
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It's all a big jewish scam. If you want to get fooled be my guest. Jews,Jews,Jews come on we have been through this. You can't bullshit a catholic.
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LOL, Nice Anti Semitism there..

(Ill leave Catholics out of this cause they still acknoledge sun God Mytholgy and Shekinah (Mother Mary energies)

Christians have slandered the real Christ for so long as the Anti Christ. The Jewish Moshiach has been slandered as the AC

Along with their silly and psychotic hellfire teachings. Its ridiculous..
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Only that eve is the sun this time.

the bible says God tells the end from the beginning..if you read the beginning of the book you can see the end, it started with Adam and Eve and will end with Adam and eve
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There will come a time when you believe everything ends.
This will be the beginning
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What did adoni do on the 9th day?
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Only that eve is the sun this time.

the bible says God tells the end from the beginning..if you read the beginning of the book you can see the end, it started with Adam and Eve and will end with Adam and eve
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 Quoting: Artaius


The sun and moon show Adam and Eve, Adam was the dominant one eve was the lesser of the two.
-Heed the warning or endure the mourning
-Favor ain't fair
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This was then.
You forgot, that now everything is other way round.
Men have misused their masculinity.
Now it is up to eve to experience, integrate and heal the masculinity in the female body. And for Adam it is to rebalance that female aspect within, to show eve, that he´s sorry for what men have done. The two witness are healing these wounds representative for all.

See, it was necessary for eve, to go into the masculine extreme, to protect herself from the abusing masculine powers, that were all around. Now it needs to be rebelanced, and this happens trough adam as an act of love, as an act of forgiveness.

The sun and moon show Adam and Eve, Adam was the dominant one eve was the lesser of the two.
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Last Edited by A r c on 12/01/2012 03:02 PM
There will come a time when you believe everything ends.
This will be the beginning
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Well Wouldn't a rosh hashana hero be nice...

Out of cancer comes the answer. A body for the serpent bearer to take.

His father plants the seed in his mother the archer steed.

Hopefully this is all we need
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hf
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Hi Apollo

yes, one can not climb the pyramid to see what´s on top, if he´s not willing to go the same walk into his own underworld. If you have no faith (light) you think all there is, is dark. But when you have faith, you can light that dark and only then you´ll be able to pick up the treasure that lies there for you. It´s in fact so simple, but you´ll never find out, if you haven´t taken that step, that´s the paradox. Life will make you face your darker aspects in some way or another (return of saturn), you as an astrologer know that more than others.

But, yeh... one can always stumble upon oneselfs ego by trying to share wisdom. The thing is, we associate the ego with something negative, because we mainly have become acquainted with it´s negative outgrowths. In fact it´s always the matter, what we make out of it. Even the negative cannot just be avoided, it needs to be lived. If you don´t live it, you can neither transform it, nor can you breath as the human, you really are, imperfect with each fiber of your being.

And I have thought about your idea too, as I was just out to the supermarket buying something.
I think the watchers can arrange something there ;)

Do you know the TV-Series Lost btw?
I always have to think of that very last episode, where everyone met again and they were all reunited in the end.
I love that whole episode, this has always been the way, I´ve felt that and I´m looking forward, hope I can be there then.

rose

Very , very wise Artaius ! very wise ! most of us think Enlightenment as fast track to Messiah complexes and Guru and Yogi type wisdom.. We see ourselves as some heightened Righteous Master of Infinite peace and Samadhi Nirvana...

When in reality we look in the mirror and see the nigredo, the darkness and the spoilage of our beast nature..

We realize that all the outer niceties of earth was simply a cover up to our rotten selfish selves and I have cried like a baby and plunged into more depression realizing what a piece of shit I am ...

Then I realized Im where God put me, for a reason. Everything is where it should be..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST

 Quoting: Artaius


“If you wish; you can“ . This is a complete and a factual statement, short and sweet. So often in life we get mired down in the - what if’s-, or the - I should have‘s-, or - I could have‘s-. These are the statements that we feed ourselves and others to dis-empower ourselves. You say, what? I don’t intentionally dis-empower myself or anyone else for that matter. This, the quagmire that ensnares us filling our days and nights with one distraction after another distraction, all working to keep us from the path of happiness, prosperity and fulfillment.

I am certain that at this point you are filled with a kind of Righteous Indignation, the kind that you KNOW within yourself is justified. You will say, “ The very gall of this woman, who does she think she is? Placing labels on people, drawing conclusions. Why she doesn‘t even know me. “ The sad truth is that I do know you, and we all do this; and much, much more than this everyday, all day to ourselves, to our children , to our loved ones , to our friends and our world.

So with this jolting revelation or thought let me proceed. It has been said, and I believe it to be true that ,”When the student is ready, the teacher will appear. “ You are proving this to be a true statement right this moment by having these writings in your hands. Let me correct myself, the truth is , YOU are your teacher. You know within yourself everything that you need to know, and within yourself you have that spark of life, AKA inspiration to seek out and find the very stimulus needed to remind yourself of the TEACHINGS, THE WAY, the ALL POSSIBLE.

A reminder of your truth that was inscribed on your psyche at the moment of creation as the archetype . There is nothing outside of ourselves. Enlightenment dawns from within. When a child struggles to understand a problem, no matter how good the teacher, no matter how many ways it is presented, it is not until the answer DAWNS on them, the light switch is thrown from within, or what ever you chose to call it; that is when enlightenment happens, the question is answered. The memory is stirred, again let me say you have every answer within yourself. Throughout the ages great minds have struggled and pushed themselves and other for answers, and usually when they least expect it, perhaps while sleeping, or walking or in a state of distraction the answer comes in a flash, FROM WITHIN!

Enlightenment is usually accompanied by a symbol of some sort that served as a reminder serving to unlock the memory stored deep within yourself. Again from within, triggered by a symbol or reminder or stimulus of what is already present within yourself. These symbols serve as place holders in our book of life. Some may call it the Akashic Records, these are records of every thought , deed, act or being that is stored in the Akashic Ether or Astral Light of existence, and yes we all have access to it. For example, take the picture of ,“The Vitruvian Man”, by Leonardo Da Vinci. This, the very symbol of perfection, completion, all proportions fused perfectly together; again ,”thus being our Teacher.

I am sad to say however, that some have dis-empowered themselves by placing an air of contempt upon the world and see this beautiful, perfect picture and its symbology as only the depiction of a naked man. As something shameful or disgusting. These people then begin the distraction game or dis-empowerment by declaring something like, “Well, will you look at that, it is the image of a naked man, how disgraceful. Surely someone will remove that from the sight of every man, woman and child; for it is a disgrace.” Therein shorting themselves, dis-empowering themselves, their children, family and friends.

My first statement was, “If you wish; you can.” Truly you have all of the questions and all of the answers available within yourself. You need look no further than within. See, feel and know who and what you truly are. A full part of, no disconnection from God, our creator, the ,”I AM.” It is said that in the beginning was total peace, quiet, inertia, quiet no thing! God our creator spoke existence into being. By the Enunciated word or sound that issued forth from God, the ALL was created. Activity, mass, energy, matter, the very essence of life, that spark that issued forth from God that Is, Was and Will Always Be our spark of life. The very essence of life. That twinkle in the child’s eye, the bounce in the puppies gait, the gentle flutter of the butterflies wings. Yes the ALL, every possible question and every possible answer created in an instance, thus was life borne.

You may ask, but what of the unknowable, fore everyone knows that the unknowable exists? To this I say, look within, my truth may not be your truth. Until and unless you know a thing to be true, or that you have taken the time to investigate and prove a thing , then it still remains a question in search for an answer. Some people live their entire lives seeking the answer to a question. Is this a waste of a life time? I think not. Fore we come to this plane of existence to experience. So to this end my friend let me encourage you to open your arms wide, no more clenched fists, no more crossed arms accompanied by that patting foot and scornful bend to your brow. Open wide your arms, your heart your existence, ready yourself for the all possible. Make it happen.. Ask, why not? Take with both hands fore the horn of plenty is overflowing upon the banquet table of life. Abundance, health, prosperity happiness abounds and is your birthright. Only you can deny yourself thru fear and holding on to yesterday’s fears and passings. Let go, release that need to control each moment, open and allow the space for the ALL.

In this day and time especially here in the USA so many of us think our days should be filled with working to earn lots and lots of money to spend on things , possessions, tangible assets. If this is your truth so be it, however be warned, natural disaster strikes in the blink of an eye, marriages break up and a nasty divorce ensues stripping both parties of all of their assets and their peace of mind. So what I am saying is the only thing permanent that can never be taken is your inner well being, your inner peace, living your truth, being filled with the ALL POSSIBLE.

Further more, long term LACK is a choice, if you lack anything in life, long term it is your choice to be in that place, that situation that existence. You have the power within to get the education, to move to a better place, to remove yourself from a sticky situation, to choose NO LACK, to choose the ALL POSSIBLE.
Peace LB
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This was then.
You forgot, that now everything is other way round.
Men have misused their masculinity.
Now it is up to eve to experience, integrate and heal the masculinity in the female body. And for Adam it is to rebalance that female aspect within, to show eve, that he´s sorry for what men have done. The two witness are healing these wounds representative for all.

See, it was necessary for eve, to go into the masculine extreme, to protect herself from the abusing masculine powers, that were all around. Now it needs to be rebelanced, and this happens trough adam as an act of love, as an act of forgiveness.

The sun and moon show Adam and Eve, Adam was the dominant one eve was the lesser of the two.
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: Artaius


galatians 3:28:

there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
-Heed the warning or endure the mourning
-Favor ain't fair
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This was then.
You forgot, that now everything is other way round.
Men have misused their masculinity.
Now it is up to eve to experience, integrate and heal the masculinity in the female body. And for Adam it is to rebalance that female aspect within, to show eve, that he´s sorry for what men have done. The two witness are healing these wounds representative for all.

See, it was necessary for eve, to go into the masculine extreme, to protect herself from the abusing masculine powers, that were all around. Now it needs to be rebelanced, and this happens trough adam as an act of love, as an act of forgiveness.

The sun and moon show Adam and Eve, Adam was the dominant one eve was the lesser of the two.
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: Artaius


hf
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Hi Billy,

What is this picture? You see the edge of that ring? I found a silver braclet with that same design a few days ago. De'Ja'Vu seeing that.
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Hi Billy,

What is this picture? You see the edge of that ring? I found a silver braclet with that same design a few days ago. De'Ja'Vu seeing that.
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That has to be a loaded question

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Thery screaming at y us lock up .............
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Remember lol



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from one of the OP links: [link to www.greatdreams.com]

and after reading some of it, i couldnt help but to think of plasma cosmology/electric universe theory of how the ancient sky looked so long ago. OP might have helped the theory along.
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from one of the OP links: [link to www.greatdreams.com]

and after reading some of it, i couldnt help but to think of plasma cosmology/electric universe theory of how the ancient sky looked so long ago. OP might have helped the theory along.
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Thery screaming at y us lock up .............
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14 But behold, the Jews were a stiffnecked people; and they despised the words of plainness, and killed the prophets, and sought for things that they could not understand. Wherefore, because of their blindness, which blindness came by looking beyond the mark, they must needs fall; for God hath taken away his plainness from them, and delivered unto them many things which they cannot understand, because they desired it. And because they desired it God hath done it, that they may stumble.

- Jacob Chapter 4, The Book of Mormon
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Great thread!
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Good thing no one wants the truth.
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"Underneath the Black Sun is a cube with a woman ascending under its rays, (beams)"

Nope. Look closely, and you will see that those are strings attached to her that extend UPWARD BEYOND the black sun. How can a black sun have "rays" anyway?!

As usual, you FAIL.
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To the anti-semite several posts above......


It was the Church which prevented jewish people from owning land. With out land you can not live back then. Needed for farming food.

Those back then realized they could settle outside of town, but still needed money to eat.

So they started loaning money to traders, which was illegal back then. Only the Church and King could lend out money.


Ironic, if the Church didn't hate on jewish people back then, they would not be the money savy people they are today.

Kind of funny if you ask me.

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