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THE BLACK SUN UNVEILED and the Birthday Child of December 21, 23 , 2012..

 
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"Underneath the Black Sun is a cube with a woman ascending under its rays, (beams)"

Nope. Look closely, and you will see that those are strings attached to her that extend UPWARD BEYOND the black sun. How can a black sun have "rays" anyway?!

As usual, you FAIL.
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Highlighted is correct.

They are suspending strings attached to the Corners of the Box.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
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To the anti-semite several posts above......


It was the Church which prevented jewish people from owning land. With out land you can not live back then. Needed for farming food.

Those back then realized they could settle outside of town, but still needed money to eat.

So they started loaning money to traders, which was illegal back then. Only the Church and King could lend out money.


Ironic, if the Church didn't hate on jewish people back then, they would not be the money savy people they are today.

Kind of funny if you ask me.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


as well as the gypsy people
who I believe were romanians
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To the anti-semite several posts above......


It was the Church which prevented jewish people from owning land. With out land you can not live back then. Needed for farming food.

Those back then realized they could settle outside of town, but still needed money to eat.

So they started loaning money to traders, which was illegal back then. Only the Church and King could lend out money.


Ironic, if the Church didn't hate on jewish people back then, they would not be the money savy people they are today.

Kind of funny if you ask me.
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as well as the gypsy people
who I believe were romanians
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Dumbass, Astrology IS the basis of my post and you dont know squat about it..

What Secret society have you been in? What order has taught you? I bet it was none...

Youre a hippie that spins your own stuff. Theres a order to everything. Dates hold numerological power. Then theres the alignments and the Religious orders that wait on prophecy. You know how to make a natal chart? You have any idea why we use both western and sidereal? (actual field position?) Do you even know what alignment and stars that the secret soceities use to pinpoint individuals and phases and aeons? Do you even know how to make a solstice marker or find the North Pole star?

Dont dare downgrade those that know. Youll be piss in your pants caught off guard when the ball starts rolling and the Orders march on to the prophecy theyve been waiting for , for thousands of years

Religion hid its esoteric truths from the profane. Enough said..
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Dumbass, Astrology IS the basis of my post and you dont know squat about it..

What Secret society have you been in? What order has taught you? I bet it was none...

Youre a hippie that spins your own stuff. Theres a order to everything. Dates hold numerological power. Then theres the alignments and the Religious orders that wait on prophecy. You know how to make a natal chart? You have any idea why we use both western and sidereal? (actual field position?) Do you even know what alignment and stars that the secret soceities use to pinpoint individuals and phases and aeons? Do you even know how to make a solstice marker or find the North Pole star?

Dont dare downgrade those that know. Youll be piss in your pants caught off guard when the ball starts rolling and the Orders march on to the prophecy theyve been waiting for , for thousands of years

Religion hid its esoteric truths from the profane. Enough said..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Notice how you got mad. My point exactly. Are you doing astrology? Sure but the level at which you practice it at is so low. Also the fact that you use linear time to try to predict alignments is even lower when real time goes off cycles which is manifested on a cosmic level and also in the lower level of humanity.

Also your understanding of the occult in astrology is very low. You probably don't understand the energy and patterns of these cycles and what they do to the human consciousness. The metaphysics, alchemical processes within the body of these symbols and cosmic alignments. Just because you know how to pinpoint a star or understand sidereal charts and natal charts don't mean shit. All that tells me is your trying to study the cycles of human consciousness among the masses of people which you call profane. Which you are as well. You don't know as much as you think you do. To be truthful. There are more degrees to knowledge then the one level things you are studying lol. Any studied metaphysican, sage, or person deeply into the occult will tell you that.

I don't need to be in an order to get any knowledge. I went through what is called self initiation into the spirit and if i did join any order i simply wouldn't even tell you. What do i need to prove? This isn't what this information is about. Its about self mastery ascending into the spirit world from out of the material world.

These orders you worship are so low level. They don't even compare to the ancient sages of Kemet. The Hindu Kushite masters. So on and so on.
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


If you are an Illuminist then you should understand the significance of contradiction or a paradox. Of course you don't. You aren't even into the occult world as deep as you claim.
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


your move

:)

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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


If you are an Illuminist then you should understand the significance of contradiction or a paradox. Of course you don't. You aren't even into the occult world as deep as you claim.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Meh, youre just defending yourself is all. If youre a illuminist, you never jump down anyones throat. You allow free will and movement. Whats your problem with me?

You know how long I have studied? Did you know I was ordained ? yes, in a brick and mortar. Did you know I was initiated by two Orders? And kicked out of them too but thats a long story..

How bout you?
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Dumbass, Astrology IS the basis of my post and you dont know squat about it..

What Secret society have you been in? What order has taught you? I bet it was none...

Youre a hippie that spins your own stuff. Theres a order to everything. Dates hold numerological power. Then theres the alignments and the Religious orders that wait on prophecy. You know how to make a natal chart? You have any idea why we use both western and sidereal? (actual field position?) Do you even know what alignment and stars that the secret soceities use to pinpoint individuals and phases and aeons? Do you even know how to make a solstice marker or find the North Pole star?

Dont dare downgrade those that know. Youll be piss in your pants caught off guard when the ball starts rolling and the Orders march on to the prophecy theyve been waiting for , for thousands of years

Religion hid its esoteric truths from the profane. Enough said..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Notice how you got mad. My point exactly. Are you doing astrology? Sure but the level at which you practice it at is so low. Also the fact that you use linear time to try to predict alignments is even lower when real time goes off cycles which is manifested on a cosmic level and also in the lower level of humanity.

Also your understanding of the occult in astrology is very low. You probably don't understand the energy and patterns of these cycles and what they do to the human consciousness. The metaphysics, alchemical processes within the body of these symbols and cosmic alignments. Just because you know how to pinpoint a star or understand sidereal charts and natal charts don't mean shit. All that tells me is your trying to study the cycles of human consciousness among the masses of people which you call profane. Which you are as well. You don't know as much as you think you do. To be truthful. There are more degrees to knowledge then the one level things you are studying lol. Any studied metaphysican, sage, or person deeply into the occult will tell you that.

I don't need to be in an order to get any knowledge. I went through what is called self initiation into the spirit and if i did join any order i simply wouldn't even tell you. What do i need to prove? This isn't what this information is about. Its about self mastery ascending into the spirit world from out of the material world.

These orders you worship are so low level. They don't even compare to the ancient sages of Kemet. The Hindu Kushite masters. So on and so on.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


A hippie that challengers my Elders, I respected my Elders, I respected my Churches, my Orders, my Bishops and you spit on them, You think, cause youre new age and hippie that you can spiral into infinate samadhi cause you can !

Listen here, I can do triple wheel charts and parans, You know what a dual wheel chart is? YES indeedy, each planet rules a action, Mars is drive, venus is love and sex, saturn is restriction, mercury is intellect, If one has a mercury alignment that is harsh, one will experience challenges like alzheimers etc, It all depends on the placements and yes, every constellation rules a body part and every degree is a event and a nudge of the electro magnetic energies acting on the ionic field...and add in the transits on top of that.

But Im not here for that, Im not a AFA, Im a astro theologer. And yes, I lean more towards Judaism then the Christianity I was trained in.

What have you taught people? What have you given them to set their sights on and what have you given them in terms of exercise in knowledge and concrete help?

Who does the grail serve anyways? It serves the people !

You tell me about the 1) the Ascendant, 2) the Midheaven or Medium Coeli (M.C.), 3) the Descendant, and 4) the Imum Coeli ( I.C.) and how you make the square...

Integrate it into this picture...

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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


your move

:)


 Quoting: Nice Boots Billy


LOL !!! Bootes, right on !

I bet he doesnt even know what the Checkerboard pattern is, and no its not simply battle of light and dark.

lol

I'd be friendly to him in a instant if I can calm down and he stops insulting me, I hate fighting. I forgive all the time..and forget.

Meh, none of us know everything, Every single one of us here are students.
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


If you are an Illuminist then you should understand the significance of contradiction or a paradox. Of course you don't. You aren't even into the occult world as deep as you claim.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Meh, youre just defending yourself is all. If youre a illuminist, you never jump down anyones throat. You allow free will and movement. Whats your problem with me?

You know how long I have studied? Did you know I was ordained ? yes, in a brick and mortar. Did you know I was initiated by two Orders? And kicked out of them too but thats a long story..

How bout you?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


I'm not trying to break your balls. In more ways then not i'm trying to help you get beyond what you think you know and go to the next level. But then again that's just my ego talking right there because no person truly needs help. They go on the path they go on.

I don't care about your orders. Truthfully this science is beyond orders. Being in a order will keep your consciousness stuck anyways. Because you don't evolve beyond the group. All this knowledge is fragmented and you need to continue to evolve. He who knows one book knows nothing.

About me? Well i've been studying this information for 7 years. I'm a practitioner of meditation. I studied the inner teachings(metaphysics) Taoism, Greek Mythology, Kemet Mythology, Hindu Mythology, and currently studying the Christian myth. A good book that's helping me study is the Metaphysical bible dictionary by Charles Filmore. That helps me along with the other things i already know on the inner level to break down the esoteric Christianity.

Does it matter what i tell you? Really, no it doesn't because all of this information is internalized and to be understand BEYOND the ego. The fact that you have to post on here to make threads to show how enlightened you are tells me that this work you are doing isn't penetrating the higher self at all. If i am wrong about that? Then so be it. I don't care. But you shouldn't care either if you know what you know.
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


your move

:)


 Quoting: Nice Boots Billy


LOL !!! Bootes, right on !

I bet he doesnt even know what the Checkerboard pattern is, and no its not simply battle of light and dark.

lol

I'd be friendly to him in a instant if I can calm down and he stops insulting me, I hate fighting. I forgive all the time..and forget.

Meh, none of us know everything, Every single one of us here are students.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


You mean the masculine and feminine?

Which is the metaphysically broken into the intent and manifestation? Or The logical mind or Intuition/Imagination. Or hell even Dark and light which means the understanding of yourself in subconscious mind(dark) and once you know it becomes light which is the conscious mind? It doesn't matter what i know. I know what i know. That's how it should be.
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The black sun is a symbol of Dark Matter, Ether, Melanin, Akasha, Soma, DMT, and Occultim. Whatever you want to call it. Also anybody doing esoteric work should not be following this guy. Find things out on your own study because following will knock you off the path. How Baphomet talks to me is different then how he talks to you. Which means symbols and images are worth a thousand words. So it is based on your own perception.

Also i would not take any dates he has prophesied seriously. He is using linear time which doesn't even exist and is also inaccurate when trying to look at the cycles of time on an astrological(stars and solar system) and astronomical(universe) level like all ancient Kemetians and sages understood. They are all just educated guesses. Time doesn't go off dates.

I'm not hating on dude but as a student myself i don't see any of this knowledge internalized and understood on the deeper level. I see too much religious thought in this.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


Dumbass, Astrology IS the basis of my post and you dont know squat about it..

What Secret society have you been in? What order has taught you? I bet it was none...

Youre a hippie that spins your own stuff. Theres a order to everything. Dates hold numerological power. Then theres the alignments and the Religious orders that wait on prophecy. You know how to make a natal chart? You have any idea why we use both western and sidereal? (actual field position?) Do you even know what alignment and stars that the secret soceities use to pinpoint individuals and phases and aeons? Do you even know how to make a solstice marker or find the North Pole star?

Dont dare downgrade those that know. Youll be piss in your pants caught off guard when the ball starts rolling and the Orders march on to the prophecy theyve been waiting for , for thousands of years

Religion hid its esoteric truths from the profane. Enough said..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Notice how you got mad. My point exactly. Are you doing astrology? Sure but the level at which you practice it at is so low. Also the fact that you use linear time to try to predict alignments is even lower when real time goes off cycles which is manifested on a cosmic level and also in the lower level of humanity.

Also your understanding of the occult in astrology is very low. You probably don't understand the energy and patterns of these cycles and what they do to the human consciousness. The metaphysics, alchemical processes within the body of these symbols and cosmic alignments. Just because you know how to pinpoint a star or understand sidereal charts and natal charts don't mean shit. All that tells me is your trying to study the cycles of human consciousness among the masses of people which you call profane. Which you are as well. You don't know as much as you think you do. To be truthful. There are more degrees to knowledge then the one level things you are studying lol. Any studied metaphysican, sage, or person deeply into the occult will tell you that.

I don't need to be in an order to get any knowledge. I went through what is called self initiation into the spirit and if i did join any order i simply wouldn't even tell you. What do i need to prove? This isn't what this information is about. Its about self mastery ascending into the spirit world from out of the material world.

These orders you worship are so low level. They don't even compare to the ancient sages of Kemet. The Hindu Kushite masters. So on and so on.
 Quoting: Metaphysics


A hippie that challengers my Elders, I respected my Elders, I respected my Churches, my Orders, my Bishops and you spit on them, You think, cause youre new age and hippie that you can spiral into infinate samadhi cause you can !

Listen here, I can do triple wheel charts and parans, You know what a dual wheel chart is? YES indeedy, each planet rules a action, Mars is drive, venus is love and sex, saturn is restriction, mercury is intellect, If one has a mercury alignment that is harsh, one will experience challenges like alzheimers etc, It all depends on the placements and yes, every constellation rules a body part and every degree is a event and a nudge of the electro magnetic energies acting on the ionic field...and add in the transits on top of that.

But Im not here for that, Im not a AFA, Im a astro theologer. And yes, I lean more towards Judaism then the Christianity I was trained in.

What have you taught people? What have you given them to set their sights on and what have you given them in terms of exercise in knowledge and concrete help?

Who does the grail serve anyways? It serves the people !

You tell me about the 1) the Ascendant, 2) the Midheaven or Medium Coeli (M.C.), 3) the Descendant, and 4) the Imum Coeli ( I.C.) and how you make the square...

Integrate it into this picture...

Rebis1
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Yes but all those planets do is govern humanity which is the masses of people the profane.. That is what the demiurge is. The only person you need to be governing is YOU. Which is why even if you know this its just one level of understanding. All of these energies don't control me. I control them. That's the difference. I get my alter out and i call on deities for things i want. Like healing or protection. Because the true occultist understands those ARE ENERGIES that are latent inside you and the universe.

I don't study astrology that much really. That is used to study the consciousness of humanity. The objective for me is to go beyond humanity. So i don't study anything about midheaven or Medium Coeli. Now i could metaphysically break down what the symbology of that picture is on the inner level in terms of mastering yourself.
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I think I'd like to Appologize to Apollo for being so rude to him last night.
Apollo, Im sorry for being so rude to you last night. I have a bad
habit of doing that to people I suspect of trying to harm others.
I could be wrong about your intentions. You just seem so "sure"
of yourself that it makes me wonder. If really not a bad guy , just a bit confused and frustrated. My ententions are not to hurt or harm anyone.
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Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
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your move

:)


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LOL !!! Bootes, right on !

I bet he doesnt even know what the Checkerboard pattern is, and no its not simply battle of light and dark.

lol

I'd be friendly to him in a instant if I can calm down and he stops insulting me, I hate fighting. I forgive all the time..and forget.

Meh, none of us know everything, Every single one of us here are students.
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You mean the masculine and feminine?

Which is the metaphysically broken into the intent and manifestation? Or The logical mind or Intuition/Imagination. Or hell even Dark and light which means the understanding of yourself in subconscious mind(dark) and once you know it becomes light which is the conscious mind? It doesn't matter what i know. I know what i know. That's how it should be.
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:P Angle:

i have somebody there right now
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I really enjoyed reading your post, sir.
Had to read it twice and ease down a bit.
The ALL POSSIBLE. I like that. In fact, that has always been, what has been giving my spirit wings. Like Goethe said it...

"Our dreams are the harbingers of the potential that´s within."


Dreams need to fly higher than the sun, so that the sun can smile and say: "And you thought, I´d burn your wings, when I only wanted to set you on fire."

aut viam inveniam aut faciam.

rose

“If you wish; you can“ . This is a complete and a factual statement, short and sweet. So often in life we get mired down in the - what if’s-, or the - I should have‘s-, or - I could have‘s-. These are the statements that we feed ourselves and others to dis-empower ourselves. You say, what? I don’t intentionally dis-empower myself or anyone else for that matter. This, the quagmire that ensnares us filling our days and nights with one distraction after another distraction, all working to keep us from the path of happiness, prosperity and fulfillment.

I am certain that at this point you are filled with a kind of Righteous Indignation, the kind that you KNOW within yourself is justified. You will say, “ The very gall of this woman, who does she think she is? Placing labels on people, drawing conclusions. Why she doesn‘t even know me. “ The sad truth is that I do know you, and we all do this; and much, much more than this everyday, all day to ourselves, to our children , to our loved ones , to our friends and our world.

So with this jolting revelation or thought let me proceed. It has been said, and I believe it to be true that ,”When the student is ready, the teacher will appear. “ You are proving this to be a true statement right this moment by having these writings in your hands. Let me correct myself, the truth is , YOU are your teacher. You know within yourself everything that you need to know, and within yourself you have that spark of life, AKA inspiration to seek out and find the very stimulus needed to remind yourself of the TEACHINGS, THE WAY, the ALL POSSIBLE.

A reminder of your truth that was inscribed on your psyche at the moment of creation as the archetype . There is nothing outside of ourselves. Enlightenment dawns from within. When a child struggles to understand a problem, no matter how good the teacher, no matter how many ways it is presented, it is not until the answer DAWNS on them, the light switch is thrown from within, or what ever you chose to call it; that is when enlightenment happens, the question is answered. The memory is stirred, again let me say you have every answer within yourself. Throughout the ages great minds have struggled and pushed themselves and other for answers, and usually when they least expect it, perhaps while sleeping, or walking or in a state of distraction the answer comes in a flash, FROM WITHIN!

Enlightenment is usually accompanied by a symbol of some sort that served as a reminder serving to unlock the memory stored deep within yourself. Again from within, triggered by a symbol or reminder or stimulus of what is already present within yourself. These symbols serve as place holders in our book of life. Some may call it the Akashic Records, these are records of every thought , deed, act or being that is stored in the Akashic Ether or Astral Light of existence, and yes we all have access to it. For example, take the picture of ,“The Vitruvian Man”, by Leonardo Da Vinci. This, the very symbol of perfection, completion, all proportions fused perfectly together; again ,”thus being our Teacher.

I am sad to say however, that some have dis-empowered themselves by placing an air of contempt upon the world and see this beautiful, perfect picture and its symbology as only the depiction of a naked man. As something shameful or disgusting. These people then begin the distraction game or dis-empowerment by declaring something like, “Well, will you look at that, it is the image of a naked man, how disgraceful. Surely someone will remove that from the sight of every man, woman and child; for it is a disgrace.” Therein shorting themselves, dis-empowering themselves, their children, family and friends.

My first statement was, “If you wish; you can.” Truly you have all of the questions and all of the answers available within yourself. You need look no further than within. See, feel and know who and what you truly are. A full part of, no disconnection from God, our creator, the ,”I AM.” It is said that in the beginning was total peace, quiet, inertia, quiet no thing! God our creator spoke existence into being. By the Enunciated word or sound that issued forth from God, the ALL was created. Activity, mass, energy, matter, the very essence of life, that spark that issued forth from God that Is, Was and Will Always Be our spark of life. The very essence of life. That twinkle in the child’s eye, the bounce in the puppies gait, the gentle flutter of the butterflies wings. Yes the ALL, every possible question and every possible answer created in an instance, thus was life borne.

You may ask, but what of the unknowable, fore everyone knows that the unknowable exists? To this I say, look within, my truth may not be your truth. Until and unless you know a thing to be true, or that you have taken the time to investigate and prove a thing , then it still remains a question in search for an answer. Some people live their entire lives seeking the answer to a question. Is this a waste of a life time? I think not. Fore we come to this plane of existence to experience. So to this end my friend let me encourage you to open your arms wide, no more clenched fists, no more crossed arms accompanied by that patting foot and scornful bend to your brow. Open wide your arms, your heart your existence, ready yourself for the all possible. Make it happen.. Ask, why not? Take with both hands fore the horn of plenty is overflowing upon the banquet table of life. Abundance, health, prosperity happiness abounds and is your birthright. Only you can deny yourself thru fear and holding on to yesterday’s fears and passings. Let go, release that need to control each moment, open and allow the space for the ALL.

In this day and time especially here in the USA so many of us think our days should be filled with working to earn lots and lots of money to spend on things , possessions, tangible assets. If this is your truth so be it, however be warned, natural disaster strikes in the blink of an eye, marriages break up and a nasty divorce ensues stripping both parties of all of their assets and their peace of mind. So what I am saying is the only thing permanent that can never be taken is your inner well being, your inner peace, living your truth, being filled with the ALL POSSIBLE.

Further more, long term LACK is a choice, if you lack anything in life, long term it is your choice to be in that place, that situation that existence. You have the power within to get the education, to move to a better place, to remove yourself from a sticky situation, to choose NO LACK, to choose the ALL POSSIBLE.
Peace LB
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Honestly too, you must be on drugs cause you severely contradict yourself, You tell others Im wrong and in next sentence you say everyone sees things different, How quaint and confusing.
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If you are an Illuminist then you should understand the significance of contradiction or a paradox. Of course you don't. You aren't even into the occult world as deep as you claim.
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Meh, youre just defending yourself is all. If youre a illuminist, you never jump down anyones throat. You allow free will and movement. Whats your problem with me?

You know how long I have studied? Did you know I was ordained ? yes, in a brick and mortar. Did you know I was initiated by two Orders? And kicked out of them too but thats a long story..

How bout you?
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I'm not trying to break your balls. In more ways then not i'm trying to help you get beyond what you think you know and go to the next level. But then again that's just my ego talking right there because no person truly needs help. They go on the path they go on.

I don't care about your orders. Truthfully this science is beyond orders. Being in a order will keep your consciousness stuck anyways. Because you don't evolve beyond the group. All this knowledge is fragmented and you need to continue to evolve. He who knows one book knows nothing.

About me? Well i've been studying this information for 7 years. I'm a practitioner of meditation. I studied the inner teachings(metaphysics) Taoism, Greek Mythology, Kemet Mythology, Hindu Mythology, and currently studying the Christian myth. A good book that's helping me study is the Metaphysical bible dictionary by Charles Filmore. That helps me along with the other things i already know on the inner level to break down the esoteric Christianity.

Does it matter what i tell you? Really, no it doesn't because all of this information is internalized and to be understand BEYOND the ego. The fact that you have to post on here to make threads to show how enlightened you are tells me that this work you are doing isn't penetrating the higher self at all. If i am wrong about that? Then so be it. I don't care. But you shouldn't care either if you know what you know.
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I always welcome help and learning..If youre strong in Eastern studies and Kemetic (Egyptian) mythology thru which many of the practices of Christianity evolved, . thats fine. I just dislike anyone telling me Im flat wrong without giving space to try and understand.

Heres a letter I wrote to my website members earlier this year


Namaste !

'The God in me greets the God in you
The Spirit in me meets the same Spirit in you'


Today is the blending of East and West. A hundred years ago, eastern faiths werent that well known in the west unless you traveled, Now it is the shared belief of hundreds of millions and its practices span from meditational practices, to yoga, to martial arts, qui gong, feng shi, diets, chakra healing , ayurvedic therapies and vedic astrology. Nearly every household is said to familar with at least one Eastern practice. More and more are turning to reincarnational beliefs and theories on how to work out their karma. The eastern faiths have promised a much more gentler way to get closer to God without the preaching of hellfire and damnation that has erroneously turned off many from the great faith of Christianity.

In our global and multi ethnic society, others are finding ways to search for God within, or God in the sphere of consciousness and the level of Dharma that Buddha found sitting under the Bodhi tree before Nirvana and the final liberation. Others are learning that Hindu teaches us that Brahman is the Divine and the ultimate reality and that the Atman is the individual sparks of Brahman. Manifestations of God such as the trinity of Brahma the Creator, Vishnu the preserver and Shiva the Destroyer,. are familiarized now in literature and art.


Then we have the ways of Tao which began in China in the 6th century and it teaches us the way of life that flows and the force of the order.. Yin and Yang and Wu Wei is harmonized in meditation and practice..It is said to have over 200 million world wide and is growing rapidly in the United States.

Whats significant about Eastern religions is introducing us to the lifeforce breath inherit in all things that can be collected, condensed or focused to bring in almost superhuman or transcendal human abilities, In India it is called Prana, (Sanskrit) for vital life" In Japan its called Ki, and In China its called Chi, In Greece its called Pneuma, and in Hebrew its called Ruach.Christians call it the Holy Spirit.

Eastern studies is a excellent way to see the interconnecting similiarities of faith worldwide !


It is my joy for all of you to be a part of this week long celebration here on NWI for Eastern Studies ! On the Front page you will see links that will take you to many blogs contributed by Admins and Members...


VISIT the FRONT PAGE OF NWI TODAY,

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So come visit us and be part of the excitement and cosmic consciousness that is the east !

OM SHANTI OM !

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THE AGHORI : DWELLERS OF THE CREMATION GROUND

KALI MA: THE DARK MOTHER

WUJI: THE EASTERN EQUIVILENT OF AIN SOPH AUR

THE FIRST AYAHUASCA EXPERIENCE

(NOTE: Ayahuasca is South American,

but many more Eastern Practictioners are incorporating it in their practices)

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I think I'd like to Appologize to Apollo for being so rude to him last night.
Apollo, Im sorry for being so rude to you last night. I have a bad
habit of doing that to people I suspect of trying to harm others.
I could be wrong about your intentions. You just seem so "sure"
of yourself that it makes me wonder. If really not a bad guy , just a bit confused and frustrated. My ententions are not to hurt or harm anyone.
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Youcity, thats fine, Ive always liked you. Accept my apologize as well. Its just one of them days, It was a tense full moon and its just dissipating right now..

Im not sure of myself in wanting anything for myself, I just live for his will to be done.
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your move

:)


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LOL !!! Bootes, right on !

I bet he doesnt even know what the Checkerboard pattern is, and no its not simply battle of light and dark.

lol

I'd be friendly to him in a instant if I can calm down and he stops insulting me, I hate fighting. I forgive all the time..and forget.

Meh, none of us know everything, Every single one of us here are students.
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You mean the masculine and feminine?

Which is the metaphysically broken into the intent and manifestation? Or The logical mind or Intuition/Imagination. Or hell even Dark and light which means the understanding of yourself in subconscious mind(dark) and once you know it becomes light which is the conscious mind? It doesn't matter what i know. I know what i know. That's how it should be.
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:P Angle:

i have somebody there right now
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in centerfield (:
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LOL !!! Bootes, right on !

I bet he doesnt even know what the Checkerboard pattern is, and no its not simply battle of light and dark.

lol

I'd be friendly to him in a instant if I can calm down and he stops insulting me, I hate fighting. I forgive all the time..and forget.

Meh, none of us know everything, Every single one of us here are students.
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You mean the masculine and feminine?

Which is the metaphysically broken into the intent and manifestation? Or The logical mind or Intuition/Imagination. Or hell even Dark and light which means the understanding of yourself in subconscious mind(dark) and once you know it becomes light which is the conscious mind? It doesn't matter what i know. I know what i know. That's how it should be.
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:P Angle:

i have somebody there right now
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in centerfield (:
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O u kat

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We´re all in the same boat, guys.

hf

I think I'd like to Appologize to Apollo for being so rude to him last night.
Apollo, Im sorry for being so rude to you last night. I have a bad
habit of doing that to people I suspect of trying to harm others.
I could be wrong about your intentions. You just seem so "sure"
of yourself that it makes me wonder. If really not a bad guy , just a bit confused and frustrated. My ententions are not to hurt or harm anyone.
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There will come a time when you believe everything ends.
This will be the beginning
[Louis L'Amour]

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I like that and the other video.
Thank you.


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There will come a time when you believe everything ends.
This will be the beginning
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:SpaceSup:

Shit

:Big World:

Might as well dance

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Ray of hope wants to know what the problem is apollo.
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Does this touch your heart like it does mine Apollo?

Born again in Christ.hf

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You speak as if you know alot, but really you know nothing.
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You explain it, Take me up on my offer

You dont believe me, Look up December 23, 2007 in the GLP search engine.

I was there for prayers ! We all prayed that day. It was a special date,

YOU know nothing.
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you won't be so cocksure when you find yourself trapped on the wrong side of the gulf during the Millennium Age forthcoming

lol

I pity your neighbors on successive land lots

assigned at the gate to such

welcome to your new world, where man is among equals as his peers and nothing more - relative to having "overcome" or not

you Sir don't have the knowledge required to overcome I'm afraid

regardless of how much and how hard and how long you have studied

nor whomsoever has suggested otherwise in truth of fact

for shame

ye who hath placed your lot above anothers in your shallow mind

will be recompensed in full for your surety

in all the wrong regard

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