Alien being encountered & attacked in woods, autopsy caught on tape ( VIDEO ) | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23018191 09/07/2012 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ufocasebook.com] copied from ^ Just recently, his credibility has suffered greatly. Until Reed can substantiate his claims, he is considered a charlatan and flim flam man. Usually, when you hear a story that is too good to be true, it is. I have been asked many times why my website contains mostly older sightings, and abductions. This is exactly why. See the following letter: B J Shawn Atlanti, Founder and former Director of San Diego UFO Society, no longer supports or considers the "Alien in the Forest Encounter" or what is known as the Dr. Jonathan Reed story to be real. This story occurred in mid-October 1996 in the Cascade Mtns in Washington state. I became aware of this story on October 21st, 1996, a few weeks later on November 11th, Jonathan Reed and Robert Raith went on the Art Bell Show and told their story, they were both on two later shows in 1998, and I was on another show with them in December of 1999. There were more allegations against Jonathan Reed that occurred on the Jeff Rense radio program on May 2nd, 2002, in which Royce Myers, Kathleen Anderson, Bill Werner and Denise Charvet appear. Bill Werner and Denise Charvet knew Jonathan Reed very well before October 1996, Both stated that his real name is Jonathan Bradley Rutter and told about information about his personal history that is contrary to what Jonathan has been stated on radio shows, in public lectures, Websites, etc, This information is available at the Website www.ufowatchdog.com, and may be heard in the archive section of the Jeff Rense radio program at www.Rense.com. This latest information, along with other related problems the last 3 and half years, combined with Jonathan Reed/Rutter unwillingness to have his supposed evidence (video, slides, pictures, etc,) tested at qualified laboratories or facilities and those results made public of the analysis in a printed form. Jonathan Reed/Rutter made a statement just about 3 and half years ago on the first Art Bell show that he would be open to do this. So, I FINALLY made the decision drop my support and belief in the Jonathan Reed story, now really known as Jonathan Bradley Rutter. Shawn Atlanti may reconsider the Jonathan Reed story if all of the following conditions are met: |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23319804 09/07/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont know if it is real or not. But , why would a guy shoot himself in the shoulder just to fabricate a story about meeting an alien? Why would he go through all the work of making such an elaborate puppet alien, if it is a hoax? And could he even have done so alone, it would be up against Hollywood specialist manufacture as far as the design goes? Why would a Doctor go risk his credibility and reputation doing something like that in the first place, knowing it would be a great risk to be caught? Obviously, he would also most likely have thought that most people wouldnt believed him in the first place, and told him to be a hoaxer, and thus it would not be a good idea to have so much footage of an incident that wasnt real. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8139030 09/07/2012 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This case is real. I know some of the people who were neighbors of this man. At the time of the incident I was asked to provide security for some of the photographic evidence and video. I did not know what it was about until years afterward. Some of the people associated with the case were (mysteriously) found dead, or disappeared. If you EVER encounter ANYTHING like this DO NOT notify anyone in government, or in the public sector. Do NOT notify or tell anyone you could not trust with your life. Don't tell your best friend, your mother, your brother, your dad, unless you ABSOLOUTLY believe they can keep their mouths SHUT and not talk to anyone about this type of encounter. If you think this is a JOKE you are a Moran. |
| Free Planet User ID: 18236988 09/07/2012 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | amendments to this intriguing story: WRISTBAND that allows trans-dimensional travel - there's a video. FREEZER'd the original alien then took further footage of 'conversations with the defrosted alien'. I dunno, but it's an interesting media event. :) |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23319804 09/07/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This case is real. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8139030 I know some of the people who were neighbors of this man. At the time of the incident I was asked to provide security for some of the photographic evidence and video. I did not know what it was about until years afterward. Some of the people associated with the case were (mysteriously) found dead, or disappeared. If you EVER encounter ANYTHING like this DO NOT notify anyone in government, or in the public sector. Do NOT notify or tell anyone you could not trust with your life. Don't tell your best friend, your mother, your brother, your dad, unless you ABSOLOUTLY believe they can keep their mouths SHUT and not talk to anyone about this type of encounter. If you think this is a JOKE you are a Moran. Indeed. I know my share of the hand of those in power myself. I even had to leave the country and move to south america in the end because of their harassment. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 23319804 09/07/2012 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | amendments to this intriguing story: Quoting: Free Planet 18236988 WRISTBAND that allows trans-dimensional travel - there's a video. FREEZER'd the original alien then took further footage of 'conversations with the defrosted alien'. I dunno, but it's an interesting media event. :) Yeah the wrist band is shown as a photo in the end of the video. Forgot to add the actual video where its being demonstrated . Interesting stuff. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23343968 09/07/2012 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's got to be some of the worse fake shit I've ever seen. WTF people, seriously? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16826251 dolls and black stockings and a little black model that insects can barely crawl in? and the fake vomiting topped it off. There are certain elements to the video that makes me unsure about this, dont know if it is real or hoax, but i cant just nod it off as a hoax. Some details that stands out, such as the being blinking and moving etc, and not a too simple dummy either if a hoax, would take some experts to make something like that up, close to hollywood quality. Also the guy was shot in his shoulder, do you think he would do that to himself just to create a hoax alien story? Why would he go out to lose his credibility and reputation? He had to give up both family, friends and business partners to come out with this story. |
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| thetrickybigguy say hello to my little friend... User ID: 23451428 09/09/2012 12:59 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the first few minutes sounded like that guy that was tappin' forrest gumps mom while he was sittin on the porch in his little rocking chair.... what a crock of shit.... ![]() Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23459360 09/09/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And most importantly, WHY would he fake an unbeliveable story in the first place? Why not fake something that would be, well, a bit more easy to fake? For what purpose would he go through all this just to make a fake story? What goal would the hoax serve? Would he really shoot himself just to fake a story? |
| BossBattles User ID: 8410224 09/09/2012 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you do realize that sometimes debunkers are those that run the conspiracy, right? How much discernment do you really have when you automatically think that someone claiming to debunk someone is correct? Reminds me of how the accused is always more guilty that the accuser, merely by the fact that they had the finger pointed at them. I've always felt that was bullshit. I can say what I want to, even if I'm not serious. |