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History of Mankind - For Beginners

 
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13.7 Billion BC****** Universe Big Bang
4.54 Billion BC****** Planet Earth formed


Why did God wait for 10 billion years to create our Earth? Is he not super powerful? What did he do in between?
 Quoting: Anonymous Subscriber


It took awhile to gather the materials and bring it all together.


Fri Aug 6/22/12
 Quoting: Russ


evolution and the Bible do not mix well.

It is like oil and water...


or God and democrats.
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
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Very well said!!

"We are now waiting for His return. It could happen at anytime now. One will appear first and deceive many into believing that he is Jesus returned, this is the antichrist- satan. Don't be deceived by him and his tricks."

It could not happen at anytime, this must happen first. Also, there is no pre-trib rapture. Its all one and the same event!

2 Thessalonians 2:3

Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.
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@Lisa,

I guess you have overlooked this one

...

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It must have been one big motherfucking ship!

So who helped him build it? It must have taken 1000's to build it, so what happened when Noah finally turned round to them all and said "Thanks for your help but you lot can fuck off, you're not coming on board".

They would have linched him.

Also.

How did all the meat eating animals survive for a year? did they eat the other animals? Did they only get an allowance of 2 for the year?

This story is so flawed in every way possible its actually comical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1297880


And Lisa or Russ or other bible believers for this matter prefer to avoid the question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Subscriber


Noah's Ark was his belief system that society based their new beginning off of after the spiritual flood cleansed the Earth and they had to begin again.

Like my New Jerusalem Ark. Just like in the days of Noah

[link to www.newjerusalemcalendar.com]


Think spiritual


Fri Aug 6/22/12
 Quoting: Russ


So tell me what does that story spiritually mean to you? Why Flood? Is God not capable of eliminating humanity and saving all animals and plants other than Flood?
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Here is why some of you are having problems

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Work on your spiritual interpretation abilities.


Fri Aug 6/22/12
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Thank you, Lisa, for this excellent summary.

I thank God in Jesus Christ every day for saving me from my addictions to alcohol and methamphetamine of 32 and 10 years respectively which nearly destroyed my physical body. when I realized how infinite His love for me truly is I was brought to my knees and cried for hours. I am not worthy, but His love is unconditional and unfathomable. When I came to this understanding I knew I could be freed from my addictions and become the version of myself I had intended before I started down my path to self-destruction and death.

I used to think faith healers and tent revivals were a ridiculous farse, but now I'm not so sure. Seven months ago I was cured of the insatiable cravings that never allowed me more than a 2 or 3 day reprieve from my addictive substances, even after week-long binges.

Nobody need be afraid of allowing God into their lives. He loves us like a mother...even MORE than a mother. He loves us more than we can ever comprehend. He wants us to let him get to know us, so we won't be strangers to Him. Then we'll have an invitation to His house for eternity. You don't invite stangers into your house for dinner. Neither does God. He does not send anyone to Hell. They send themselves.

These days I pray every day, and I jump out of my skin on Sunday mornings to gather with others where I can celebrate the miracles God is working in my life and theirs.

God bless you, Lisa, and everyone. Peace and Love.
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13.7 Billion BC****** Universe Big Bang
4.54 Billion BC****** Planet Earth formed


Why did God wait for 10 billion years to create our Earth? Is he not super powerful? What did he do in between?
 Quoting: Anonymous Subscriber


It took awhile to gather the materials and bring it all together.


Fri Aug 6/22/12
 Quoting: Russ


evolution and the Bible do not mix well.

It is like oil and water...


or God and democrats.
 Quoting: Passin' Through


No evolution, just adaptation, God made our bodies with the ability to adapt to diff environment.
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13.7 Billion BC****** Universe Big Bang
4.54 Billion BC****** Planet Earth formed


Why did God wait for 10 billion years to create our Earth? Is he not super powerful? What did he do in between?
 Quoting: Anonymous Subscriber


It took awhile to gather the materials and bring it all together.


Fri Aug 6/22/12
 Quoting: Russ


evolution and the Bible do not mix well.

It is like oil and water...


or God and democrats.
 Quoting: Passin' Through


Tell that to Russ, he's the first bible believer I see which also believes in the Big Bang billion years ago.
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So tell me what does that story spiritually mean to you? Why Flood? Is God not capable of eliminating humanity and saving all animals and plants other than Flood?
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It was a spiritual cleansing of the Earth from which the line of Shem, Abraham, Jacob(Israel) and Nimrod's Babylon emerged then collapsed and the rest of the story of God began.


Fri Aug 6/22/12
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I"m not part of organized religion as it's known on the earth. I don't belong to or attend any church at all.

But, I study, read and pray on my own and I have a personal relationship with God, The Father, Son & Holy Spirit. That's all anyone needs.

If you have turned away from Christ, then I will pray for you. Jesus is the answer, everything else is not.

hf


See Lisa, this is where you keep fucking up!

People spend there whole life thinking Jesus is the answer and then dying thinking he is an utter bastard for being given such a shitty life even though they have stayed faithful to him.

I'm not talking about cosy little american middle class people here, I'm taking about billions of people who live in such terrible conditions with war, starvation, rape, murder etc and praying does absolutely nothing to help them at all.

So your whole theory of praying to christ will 'save you' is flawed because he doesnt save anyone, EVER.

This!!

Unless you are talking about being saved in the next life whatever that might be but then what is the point of praying for a good life in the next life? most people pray to be saved from events in this life.

You are one confused puppy I'll give you that.
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That's it. Because the milestones and end date are chosen to supposedly fit a "pattern".
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Eukaryotic cells are found some 1.26 bya in strata of that age all around the Earth.

Placental mammals are found some 63 mya in strata of that age all around the Earth.

Bi-pedal apes are found some 3 mya in strata of that age all around the Earth.

The first homosapiens are found some 160,000 years ago in strata of that age all around the Earth.

Argricultural activity is found some 8,000 years ago in strata of that age all around the Earth.

The footprint of the modern nation was formed 400 years ago.

The Internet formed 20 years ago.

Are you meaning to tell me sir that all of these very important and novel expressions of Creation, all of which are a CONSISTANT reduction by the power of 20, are not forming a pattern? And not just any pattern but a fractal growth pattern? You know, the one nature uses?

"Fractal geometry will make you see everything differently. There is danger in reading further. You risk the loss of your childhood vision of clouds, forests, flowers, galaxies, leaves, feathers, rocks, mountains, torrents of water, carpets, bricks, and much else besides. Never again will your interpretation of these things be quite the same." ~ Michael F. Barnsley

Do you know what date corresponds to 12.8 years before 28 October 2011 and what's happened on that date which contributes to IT revolution?
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I'm sure much was happening on that particular date that contributed to the IT revolution as human consciousness was beginning to fill up cyberspace in ernest around that time. But I wouldn't name one particular thing nor would I need to in order to see that's exactly what has happened with human consciousnesss.

Is Earth creation not important for human?
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It is and because the Earth contains a magnetic field, perhaps it has it's own consciousness, and to extend that point, it's own pattern of developement that I am not aware of. But sure it's important. It is the stage in which the human drama plays out on.


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So tell me what does that story spiritually mean to you? Why Flood? Is God not capable of eliminating humanity and saving all animals and plants other than Flood?
 Quoting: Anonymous Subscriber


It was a spiritual cleansing of the Earth from which the line of Shem, Abraham, Jacob(Israel) and Nimrod's Babylon emerged then collapsed and the rest of the story of God began.


Fri Aug 6/22/12
 Quoting: Russ


Spiritually:
1. Your God is cruel. He kills people indiscriminately including babies. He is worse than Hitler.
2. He's also not clever enough. He teaches Noah to build an ark big enough to carry millions of animals, brings all animals two by two to Noah, makes sure those animals survive after the Flood (because we know a pair is not enough to survive), bring the Koala back to Australia, makes sure that salt water fish don't die during the Flood, and all other miracles. All that is just to make his point. How clever is that?
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Hi Lisa,

I am a Christian, if one believes that the 'easier' way to the Father is thru the Son. And by Christian I mean that I try and walk and talk by example of Christ, having the anointing that comes with such a declaration.

However, let me point out to you that the scholars of that time called Him/ Jesus a Heritic and nailed Him to a tree. Let me also point out that He healed on the sabbath... Let me further say that Christ only spoke about Love and the condition of that heart towards God.

The reason I state these things is to tell you that I was a theology student...BUT "we" have been duped... By a man named Constantine who "created" the bible.. JESUS did not have the bible... He WAS the word of God.

Did not Paul say that ALL scripture is good for teaching?

You choose to believe the creaton story as it is in the BIBLE.. If you read Enoch or the lost books you will find a little different story... Even Jude (bible) makes reference to books not found in the bible,

Your basis to state the biblical creation story as a fact without consulting other scriptural texts is very narrow minded perspective.

By merit of your understanding the creation story as told by the bible is ENTRAPEMENT at its finest... An omniscient God will NOT create a Law only to be broken the very day that Adam and Eve where created.. And then to further perpetuate the craziness of the story to further give LAWS.... In that case please do a study of Romans... As you will understand... That God is about Grace NOT law!

Christ did NOT come to condemn the world...but to save it!

Be blessed,
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Well put in a simple format Lisa. This used to be common knowledge until the church buried it calling it "forbidden knowledge". There are a ton more details we know; for instance, they didn't just make giants, they made monsters.


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Its funny how us humans tend to fall into obsessive compulsive disorders... even denying obsessively that we are obsessed!!


oh the irony!! looool!
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The History of Mankind – Condensed for Beginners



God created Adam and Eve and put them in a perfect paradise to live forever. Everything was perfect, their bodies, the earth, the animals and their relationship with God. They lived in perfect bliss. They were created in the “image of God” and we can’t even imagine what perfection looked like and felt like, but they had it.

God had one commandment, just ONE! Genesis 2:17 “but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." God knew that satan wanted to destroy His creation because he hated mankind. And he tempted Eve, and she blew it. God’s commandment not to eat of that tree was for our own protection, for our own good. Just one commandment!

Having everything wasn’t good enough, and Adam and Eve decided to go against God and do what they wanted and they ate the fruit. They basically called God a liar saying “no, we won’t die” and they ate it. At that moment, everything changed. After Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate the fruit (whatever that was) sin entered into the world and everything changed. Their bodies were changed, the earth was changed, and the animals were changed. It was a whole new ballgame and nothing was ever the same again. Through Adam, sin entered into the world. Romans 5:12 “When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam's sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.”

Adam lived The Bible does not say how long Eve lived, but Adam died at 930 yrs, just shy of 1000 years. So, by God’s time, Adam died before the end of one day. “ With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.”

Cain went on and killed his brother and started a race of people who were pure evil, they practiced all kinds of terrible things. Then the angels came down, took on human form and mated with human women and produced an abominable offspring called the Nephilim that were evil hybrid giants that did terrible things.

The evil was so great on the earth because man decided to ignore God and His commandments and do what they wanted. The angels also ignored God and followed satan, and the result was awful. Only a handful of people were found upright and worthy, Noah and his family. God saved them and destroyed everything else by means of a global flood. Noah and his family survived in the ark, and eventually re-populated the earth.

God knew He was going to send His son to redeem mankind, and He picked a group of people that His son would be born into. He gave them basic instructions on how to live.

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
10. Thou shalt not covet


Before those “basic instructions” could even be delivered, the people did their own thing by making an idol and worshipping it. They couldn’t even wait till Moses came down off the mountain with the 10 commandments before they broke them.

Yet, God in His mercy didn’t destroy them, but gave them a more rigid and strict law to live by, to set them apart from the rest of the world as a holy people, the nation of Israel.

The messiah (Jesus) was eventually born to a virgin girl by means of the Holy Spirit, and He was crucified on the cross so that we could be forgiven of our sins. Now we are made holy through His blood, and are under a new covenant.

Jesus told His people to go and tell the world so that they too can be saved, redeemed. There was a time limit set, He is returning again to destroy the wicked and establish His Kingdom here on earth.

We are now waiting for His return. It could happen at anytime now. One will appear first and deceive many into believing that he is Jesus returned, this is the antichrist- satan. Don't be deceived by him and his tricks.

Then Jesus will return in the clouds, every eye will see Him, and He will judge the earth and cleanse it from all wickedness.

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Basic Questions & Answers

Should we still keep the 10 commandments? YES! They are basic guidelines on how to live properly according to our creator. It’s common sense. You can’t live a life pleasing to God while you go out murdering, lying, stealing and raping. We are under a new covenant, but he original 10 commandments still stand, they were not done away with. They were first and foremost, and they are basic living instructions for all people. They are not burdensome in anyway, shape or form. They are about loving God and loving your neighbor, which is the right way to live.

Can you keep the 10 commandments as an atheist? No because you must believe in the Father and His Son for forgiveness of your sins.

Can you keep the 10 commandments; believe in the Father, but not Jesus? No because if you reject the Son, you’re also rejecting the Father. The Son is part of the Father, He is the only way sin can be forgiven. Jesus IS God’s mercy. If you reject the Son, you will have to pay the penalty for your sins because there is no other way to be forgiven.

What if you break a commandment? Pray and ask God to forgive you through His son Jesus Christ. Then do your best not to make that same mistake again.
Is there sin in heaven? No, because we have a new perfect spiritual body in heaven, a gift from the Father because of our faith in His son, Jesus Christ. Everything in heaven is perfect in every way.

How do I become saved? By understanding that Jesus was God in the flesh (the Messiah), that He came down from heaven into the form of a man to die for your sins. Pray to The Father in heaven, ask Him to forgive you of your sins through the shed blood of Jesus on the cross. Ask Him to be your Lord and Savior. Then do your best to live the right way, praying to Him as often as you can and read His Word to learn more about Him. When you screw up, pray and ask for forgiveness and do your best to live a life pleasing to Him.


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Honest questions from people are welcome. If you just want to troll and mock, you will be ignored.



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How do you know that God dictated the 10 commandments? How do you know that a schizophrenic hearing voices that he made up in his head that he was under the delusion was God didn't just make up the 10 commandments?
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GREAT thread Sister hugshf!



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Oh, and I really don't understand why people have the desire to either make others believe in God or prove to others that God does not exist.

People believing or not believing in something does not change the truth. If God exists and nobody believes in him then he still exists and if God does not exist and everybody believes in him then he still does not exist.

God existing or not existing has never been proven either way so all opinions on this subject are plausible.
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You must believe in the Tooth Fairy.....and Santa Claus too.....
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our local church has Santa Claus visit the
church every Christmas and bring presents.

and they hunt Easter eggs too.

where is that in the bible ???

both of those came from paganism.

did I also mention they have
a Halloween festival also ???
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To understand where easter eggs come from, watch The Pharmacratic Inquisition.

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the goddess has only one commandment, . .
think for thine own self.
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the goddess has only one commandment, . .
think for thine own self.
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"do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"

Satan
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The Bible is true, and everything in it is what we need to know to live a life pleasing to God and for salvation.

I chose to follow Jesus and His instructions.

If you choose not to, that's your choice as everyone has the ability to make their own decisions in life.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


yes, everyone has the right to choose,
but the ones who know the truth have an
obligation to inform others of the truth.

if you choose to follow the lies,
then you can only blame yourself.

good day friend

I'm out of this thread

best wishes in your journey :)
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best wishes to you as well :)
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What it all boils down to, is who do you believe Jesus Christ is.

Do you believe that He is the Son of Almighty God who came to earth to redeem mankind?

Do you believe that He was God in the flesh who took your place on the cross in order to pay the penalty for the sin that is in you?

Do you believe that He is the only way, that there is no other way to reconcile yourself to God?

No other person in history can make the claims that Jesus Christ made.

No other person in history backed up their claims by doing things no regular human being could do.

The Bible is not just scripture, it is actual recorded historical accounts by eyewitnesses.

Every other founder of every other religion was just a regular human being with a philosophy who convinced others to follow that philosophy. They possessed no power to defy the Laws of Physics.

Anyone can invent a religion, but not anyone can claim to be God and then back it up with the power to control sickness, disease, the weather, the Laws of Physics and even death itself.

And no other person can die in your place except Jesus Christ, because the sacrifice had to be spotless and pure.

Jesus was without sin--He was without spot or blemish, untainted and pure in HIS person and in HIS work.

He was condemned by the law WE broke and He suffered the penalty for that broken law on our behalf.

Now if you choose not to believe that or choose to look for another way, you will remain in your sins--unredeemed.

Truth has been presented to you and no one is forcing you to decide.

What it all boils down to, is who do you believe Jesus Christ is.

" I am THE Way, THE Truth, and THE Life: NO man comes unto the Father, but BY ME.
(John 14:6)
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+1000!

hf
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Yes Lisa, You have also helped me.
Your Grace, Gentleness, Dignity, Integrity and Truth radiate through your sharing.
Thank you.
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.
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Hi Lisa. My name is Ron Richardson and you helped to lead me back to my Redeemer Jesus Christ. Don't give up the good fight.
My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this earthly body by trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians 2:20
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WOW! You both have no idea what that means to me. Reading those 2 comments lifted me up like you can't even begin to imagine! What a blessing you both are to me! PRAISE GOD!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!

dancedancedance
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It is absolutely amazing and sickening that it is 2012 and people are ao brainwashed by religion that they completely ignore science and instead choose to believe a recycled story with talking "serpent" and a man who talked to a bush or that someone lived inside of a fish .... absolutely astounding ...
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Thank you, Lisa, for this excellent summary.

I thank God in Jesus Christ every day for saving me from my addictions to alcohol and methamphetamine of 32 and 10 years respectively which nearly destroyed my physical body. when I realized how infinite His love for me truly is I was brought to my knees and cried for hours. I am not worthy, but His love is unconditional and unfathomable. When I came to this understanding I knew I could be freed from my addictions and become the version of myself I had intended before I started down my path to self-destruction and death.

I used to think faith healers and tent revivals were a ridiculous farse, but now I'm not so sure. Seven months ago I was cured of the insatiable cravings that never allowed me more than a 2 or 3 day reprieve from my addictive substances, even after week-long binges.

Nobody need be afraid of allowing God into their lives. He loves us like a mother...even MORE than a mother. He loves us more than we can ever comprehend. He wants us to let him get to know us, so we won't be strangers to Him. Then we'll have an invitation to His house for eternity. You don't invite stangers into your house for dinner. Neither does God. He does not send anyone to Hell. They send themselves.

These days I pray every day, and I jump out of my skin on Sunday mornings to gather with others where I can celebrate the miracles God is working in my life and theirs.

God bless you, Lisa, and everyone. Peace and Love.
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PRAISE GOD!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

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Just another Christian circle wank. Yawn.

whatever
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Well put in a simple format Lisa. This used to be common knowledge until the church buried it calling it "forbidden knowledge". There are a ton more details we know; for instance, they didn't just make giants, they made monsters.


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Glad you enjoyed it!

hf
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GREAT thread Sister hugshf!



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Thank you!

hf
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in Lucifer's name i transcend duality and embrace the cosmic energies of truth, divine love and light

Jesus is Archangel Michael

stop fighting one another and forgive each other

transcend polarity

and love each other

peace5ayodahf
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