Ok So What Is The REAL Truth About Voting In The USA? Does It Matter???

if voting mattered it would have been outlawed in the 1700's

Instincts say it is totally rigged.

But all the effort these clowns put into arguing, and campaigning leads me to believe some of it is real.

It's real but it's also rigged.

Local election voting = real America. Votes matter, it's democratic.

National elections = Actual America. Votes don't matter, the electoral college does and it is a quasi-republic.

Two words tell you that it is an illusion even if a candidate win the popular they must go through the corrupt college


Electoral College

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

A prefect example of what really goes on is the BS voting at both the Conventions...the AYES have it, lol....what complete BULLSHIT.

I give up....just waiting for the shooting to start. Locked, Loaded and Ready!

Last Edited by Dog Wayne on 09/07/2012 11:34 PM

Yes, voting matters!!!

Florida 2000 answered that question definitively.

No, it's not rigged.

Yes, there is some cheating going on but that should only motivate you more to get your ballot cast.

Those who moan about how it's all useless are piss-poor American citizens.
Maybe the lazy bastards should move to some other country and leave it to those of us who do our civic duty and participate in democracy.


The "Left/Right paradigm" tards are idiots, too.


IF YOU DON'T VOTE YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN!

It remains important to cast your vote regardless whether the system is corrupted or not. The intent of your right will never be diminished. As one poster has already stated, local votes are less tarnished. We clearly need to restructure the voting process and it is also evident that on the National level there is a great deal of fraud, like the 30,000 registered SC voters that happen to be deceased. We all remember the hanging chads in FL. We have the technical ability to allow each of us to vote in a visible manner that can be fully audited. Changes only happen when the masses make it so.

words could never do this reply justice....

you MUST vote. Your voice MUST be heard. Don't fall for that trick of not voting.

Believe me, the Dems use busses filled to the brim with sheep told who to vote for. These pathetic bottom dwellers look forward to the bus ride, it is the high light of their day.

Your Vote does count, and remember the FUCKING Government won't ALLOW our Military to vote. Please be their voice.


Your choice is either vote for FREE ENTERPRISE ..... OR.... you vote for a life of CRADLE TO GRAVE DEPENDENCY

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Thread: Obama: I want to replicate the auto bailout in ‘every industry’ - his plan for Fed to take over private business

Who is the man for THIS moment? Is it a man who encourages Free Enterprise an economic system that provides individuals the opportunity to make their own economic decisions? Free Enterprise a venture that not only tests the fiber of a man’s character, but one that fulfills a natural need to seek, to do, to become the best that one can be. Free enterprise an economic path with the potential to make a profit in a business that one created from one’s ideas, ideals, and hard work. Vote for Liberty to choose our path and destiny and potential legacy to be passed onto our children and grandchildren. In the United States, there are three basic types of business firms – individually owned, partnerships, and corporations. Free trade and minimal government intervention or cradle to grave dependency on a government that dictates your every move, up to and including what you are allowed to eat!

The American business system is based upon four basic principles:
(I 1 freedom of choice;
(2) Private property rights;
(3) Profit motive of owners; and
(4) Owner control.

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Or in this Moment do we want someone who has us on a path to cradle to grave dependency. A path filled with government constraints? A path that robs us of pride in ones accomplishments? Obama said ,” I want to replicate the auto bailout in ‘every industry’ “- his plan for Fed to take over private business.

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Thread: Obama: I want to replicate the auto bailout in ‘every industry’ - his plan for Fed to take over private business

Inertia is a property of matter.



A vote carries no weight.

Than answer me this...why in the 30+ years I've been voting has nothing changed. NOTHING, well not true...it's getting worse every year!

Doesn't matter who is in office, same foreign policy, same financial policy, same old same old....Rep or Dem, same animal different coat.

I'm done with the smoke & mirrors...

The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A majority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President.

Your state’s entitled allotment of electors equals the number of members in its Congressional delegation: one for each member in the House of Representatives plus two for your Senators. Read more about the allocation of electoral votes.
[link to www.archives.gov]


We do have the Right and the Power to make change.(Reform not Revolution) The U.S. Population in 2012 is Nearly 313 Million People. Of the 313 million people there are 535 Members of Congress, {435 in the House of Representatives and 100 in the Senate}. These so called law makers are little more than spoiled self-serving tyrants.

If only 8% of the population (25,040,000) people would stand up and say we want fiscal responsibility. No more living off tomorrow’s earnings, demand that we must live within our own earnings just as was done back in 1776 where only 7 or 8 percent of the people demanded change, and we got it. Freedom from tyranny .

313,000,000 population in U.S.A.
-25,040,000 8% working for change of twisted policy
287,960,000 the number who can sit home drink their 40’s, and watch Jersey Shores


8% of 313 000 000 = 25,040,000 (( heck the state of Texas has 25,674,681 in population. This is doable folks.. WE NEED responsible Public Servants, not self- serving tyrants.

Remember there are 535 voting Members of Congress; the House of Representatives has 435 and the Senate has100. CHANGE THEM ALL !!!!!! PUT THE TRASH OUT NOW !!!!!
Put the trash out. WE need reform not revolution


Beware of Liars and abettors in the media, blogs and government, posting on behalf of the Obama administration, using their Alinsky-style ridicule of those questioning Obama’s accomplishments or shortcomings . It is a tired old scam .

Instead of ridicule can’t you folks cite any real progress or accomplishments that Obama has made? And PLEASE don’t cite social programs that have only compromised our National Security by making us that more in debt to our enemies who hold our debt.

Debt today ( this second, and increasing at an alarming rate )
$ 15, 918,265,798,999.00
[link to www.usdebtclock.org]

vote
it is your duty
you earn the right to gripe if bad laws are passed, etc.
support local and state candidates

I will not be casting a vote for president but I will be voting on all the other matters that are pertinent to the sovereign state.

vote for the best sheriff candidates they are THE MAN so it is important to keep limp wristed lap dogs for the fed gov out of office.

Cheers! I like your words...to think that by 1863 the US debt hit 1 Billion....by 1980 US debt hit 1 Trillion and by 2015 we'll see it hit 20 Trillion.

Folks, we'll have increased the debt 20 times since 1980. 20 times the debt than the previous 200+ years.

Enough is Enough!

Is that some new law we don't know about?

Well it matters very little because TPTB have both candidates in their pocket. So no matter who wins, the elite get what they want. They make sure they get the candidates they want by controlling Radio, Tv, Magazines and News Papers and most of the top searches on the Internet. Plus by their campaign contributions they are able to weed out rogue candidates. Now if they really want someone in over another, well then votes from the presidential race get counted in another country like France LOL which is what is happening this year.

Let me put this way...if you had enough money to house, cloth and feed every person in the World....would you allow commoners to decide who runs things?? Come on....get real!

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Great responses! MY concern is what this country will be like in four years after this election! I haven't seen the movie '2016' yet but I hear every American citizen should go see it. I may try and do that today.

I dunno about all of you, but I really hope something SERIOUS happens on December 21st of this year because if it doesn't we could end up in a place we never dreamed in our worst nightmare!

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I've been bouncing around and yes everyone wants something big to happen and I feel with the strength in numbers with our current consciousness it will be hard for even TPTB to change the freight train from derailing. What will happen is the debate topic of the year here. Pick an idea, it has a chance of coming true. LOL

Don't bother with the movie, it sheds no new light on Obama. If you're a GLP reader there is nothing new. Obama came out of no where, is controlling the US and more for the Cabal and there is not much to do at this point but to hope and wish for something different.

Something large is going to happen and the election may be a mute point! That is my leaning. I will say this, if nothing happens before Jan 1 then I'm sure we all just dreamt it up. LOL

Mr.Romney When did you get here?

Fuck that Your a human being you can complain about anything you want. You dont vote its probably because your smarter than all the other fucking sheep who are nothing but cowards hiding behind a voting booth. You are a piss-poor human being if you think your making a difference just by going into a booth and casting a vote. And this country is not a fucking democracy. Wake up you drooling babbling ape you been lied to and you attack those that try to help you. Fool you are.

Fuck that Your a human being you can complain about anything you want. You dont vote its probably because your smarter than all the other fucking sheep who are nothing but cowards hiding behind a voting booth. You are a piss-poor human being if you think your making a difference just by going into a booth and casting a vote. And this country is not a fucking democracy. Wake up you drooling babbling ape you been lied to and you attack those that try to help you. Fool you are.




And that is what is wrong in our country.

Assholes that sit around and bitch instead of helping to take charge of our country again. It is easier to sit and do nothing, claiming that nothing ever gets done. If everyone sat and did nothing, that is exactly when nothing gets done!

National elections are a joke.

The supreams intended citizens united to be a call to action for congress.
Instead of action - we get more grab-ass and infomercial spouting political blowhards.
Frikin Ronco's showed more truth and substance pitching pocket fishermen than the current crop of yes men posing as leaders.

Drink deeply Sheeple and Worshiping Masses. The only vote that matters is a vote to dismember this toad party system.

Well, the other night we had a vivid example of how Democrats cast and count votes. You just keep recounting until you get the predetermined result... and if that doesn't work, just ignore the voting altogether.

In my estimation, local votes DO count. For example, the new mayor in my town won by FIVE votes. The votes were counted twice and it appears, that indeed, FIVE votes brought in a new mayor.

However, my state had two highly suspect governor elections - whereas a Democrat got in both times - but where it became VERY obvious the Dems had stolen both elections, in spite of numerous recounts.

At the PRESIDENTIAL level, along with Republican-owned voting machines (Diebold - BTW interesting term - DIE BOLD), it is become apparent that presidents are SELECTED years, in not decades, in advance and that voting machines can EASILY be manipulated. This has been proven technologically.

When George Green was told by Paul Volcker (Chairman of the Federal Reserve under Carter and Reagan) that 'they' control who is put into the presidency, that sealed any of my misconceptions that 'the people' vote in the president. Electoral College notwithstanding.

Just sayin'....the US hasn't probably had a honest election since George Washington and I would even question that one.

Still, for the hell of it, I continue to vote.

[link to www.ropercenter.uconn.edu]

popular vote is rarely proportionate to the electoral vote and sometimes (as in the Bush/Gore election) electoral votes were contrary to popular votes altogether. The above link gives side by side comparisons of electoral and popular votes from 1940 elections all the way up to 2008 elections.

I am 36 and just started college. My history professor said "What do you do if you're not happy with either candidate? You don't vote". To this I replied, "You can write someone in". He proceeds to tell me that is a waste of your vote, How is not voting, not a waste of a vote but writing someone in is?

Apathy went on so long that it does not matter now. Presidents are selected not elected.

By registering to vote, you basically admit that you are a 14th amendment slave and part of the body politic, US corporation, and thereby are bound the rules of the corporation, giving up you unalienable rights.

What Corporation allows the employees to elect the president. NONE. Its just an illusion. The investors of corporations pick who the CEO is. sk