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The Third Party Debate - there should be one!

 
Geologic
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The Third Party Debate - there should be one!
The Third Party Debate - there should be one
BORED with Rom-Bama? I am
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I would like to see a Third Party debate.

Including:
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+ Gary Johnson, Libetarian Party
+ Merlin Miller, American Third Party
+ Jill Stein, Green Party

Anyone else that should be in a Debate ?
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A LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES

+ Gary Johnson, Libetarian Party



+ Merlin Miller, American Third Party



+ Jill Stein, Green Party


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Have I missed anyone who should be at the Debate ??

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Gary Johnson Poses a Headache for Romney
September 5, 2012

A new Zogby poll suggests that Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson could throw the presidential election to President Obama, with the anti-government candidate taking enough votes from Gov. Mitt Romney to give Obama a narrow edge.

In a survey of 798 likely voters conducted August 31 through September 3, Zogby found that if Johnson’s name was not mentioned, Obama and Romney were basically tied, with Obama receiving 43.8 percent of the vote, Romney getting 43.5 percent, and 12.7 percent undecided.

But throw Johnson’s name in and the numbers shift toward Obama is a way that could swing what is expected to be one of the closest elections ever.

/see: [link to reason.com]
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Which third party candidate is mostly likely to give Obama "a headache" ?

Probably Jill Stein



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A third party candidate debate???

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The Republican party is destroyed.

They may get the evil one from Kolob elected this time, but the younger generations want freedom from religious tyranny, and the republican party will never recover from their Nazi power grab in the caucasses.


The Libertarian party is the new conservative party, and we want to give freedom to everyone.
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

-Galileo Galilei
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I am now leaning towards voting for Obama (as opposed to not voting at all). Of course we didn't hear anything at the convention about how our civil rights and democracy are slipping through our fingers, and that is the main issue I am furious about...
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I agree with you about the loss of freedoms.
If you vote for Obama, or if you vote for Romney, that trend may be likely to continue

Don't "waste" your vote on Rom-Bama - that just encourages the Bastids!

Consider which Third Party candidate might reflect your views better.

I want to promote the idea of a debate amongst the Third

If we could get YouTube to carry it, I'd certainly watch it with great interest.

If we get enough people talking about it here, and around the web, then it really might happen.

Look what FORBES SAYS about the Conventions of the Big Two Parties:

The Time Has Come To Scrap The Conventions

The event, however, was undeserving of so much attention. Yes, some of the speakers like Bill Clinton were compelling but the entire convention – like its Republican counterpart – was contrived. We didn’t watch news, we watched theater. Theatrical performances should be critiqued, but no one should confuse a fictional account for real-life.

Conventions weren’t always so lacking in news value. Before primaries dominated the electoral process and the parties tightened their presentations for a national audience watching on live television, the political parties used the conventions to actually select their candidates.


/Forbes: [link to www.forbes.com]

Right now,
we have Spin and Theatre in the hands of people who will not allow any genuine debate or democracy. Voting for RomBama is voting for more of that !
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This was June (8%) - I wonder what it is now ?

Gary Johnson tells Jon Stewart he has 8 percent support nationally

Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson told Jon Stewart that he has 8 percent support nationally. Is that correct?

During the June 5, 2012, edition of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Gary Johnson, the former Republican governor of New Mexico now running for president as a Libertarian, discussed how much support he needs to secure a spot on the debate stage this fall.

"How do you get onto the debate? How can you become like Ross Perot did and get included in the national debate?" Stewart asked, referring to the third-party candidate who was invited to the 1992 presidential debates with President George H.W. Bush and his Democratic challenger, Bill Clinton.

Johnson responded, "The notion here is to actually win the race. I mean, that’s the pie-in-the-sky notion. To do that, I have to poll at 15 percent to get on the national debate stage with Obama and Romney.


+continues: [link to www.politifact.com]
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I found this:
There WAS a serious 3rd-Party-Debate in 2008,
and it was moderated by the excellent Christopher Hedges

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NADER's LETTER: Return the Wasted Money to the Taxpayers

Back in early August, Ralph Nader wrote to the national committees of both the Democratic and Republican parties. In that letter he made a reasonable suggestion: Both parties should give back the $18.2 million in taxpayer money they each received to help pay for their party conventions, or donate it to charities in the cities where their conventions will be held.
That money comes into the Treasury as voluntary contributions through the $3 tax check-off box on IRS forms, and is described as going "…to the Presidential Election Campaign Fund." It doesn't say anything about funding political party conventions.
As Nader describes it, "Taxpayers who opt for this partial public funding of elections may not like funding political extravaganzas for the two parties, festooned by banners, musical entertainment, food, drink and other amenities. Pay for your own parties, your own liquor and your own entertainment."

He goes on to point out that neither convention this year is an actual exercise of democracy, because both parties have already chosen their candidate and set their platforms.


+continues: [link to www.allvoices.com]



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A third party canidate would be great. So do you think that an electoral college would vote out side of their box for a third party, Not! We must first remove electoral college. Then bring in the third party. Real votes that really count.
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A third party canidate would be great. So do you think that an electoral college would vote out side of their box for a third party, Not! We must first remove electoral college. Then bring in the third party. Real votes that really count.
 Quoting: freethinkingguy


No need to WAIT for the Electoral college to be modified, that will take many years, if it happens at all.

We can send a message NOW by researching Third Party candidates, listening to their messages, and voting for the one whose messages resonates best.

"If you choose between two evils, you are still choosing evil."

If the 3rd parties get more than 15% of the vote between them, then Rom-Bama will have to recognise that there is a NEW political force in the land. And they have unleashed it be ignoring the genuine concerns of the middle class, and favoring their Corporate paymasters.

Let's wake up, and stop being fooled by Rom-Bama's spin and political theatre.
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there WILL be a third party debate in late october

it is called: free and equal

see post#7:

[link to www.greenenergyinvestors.com]

guess what:
rombama have so far refused the invitation to participate,
but the others will be there
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IT HAPPENED !

The People’s Debate – Main Street Vs The Plutocracy

Mainstream media has concentrated on the two Plutocracy presidential candidates, Romney and Obama but Main street America has found its voice in the recent Third party debate and finally real issues that concern all Americans were intelligently discussed and argued. A vote for one of these candidates is a vote against the plutocracy
by Allen L Roland

Third Party Presidential Debate Moderated by Larry King:


Four alternative candidates for president of the United States debated Tuesday night in Chicago and agreed America needs a good dose of what they could provide ~ clear, straight talk that has not been market-pasteurized. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson were very effective. Video

It’s still fabrications, showbiz and entertainment for the two prime candidates of the Plutocracy and as an example the drama “SEAL Team Six,” about the raid that ‘ supposedly ‘ killed Osama bin Laden, was edited to give a starring role to the president. It will be shown on television two days before the election. See article~
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The presidential election has been stolen by two competitioners.

The Dem. and Rep. They mold their athlete to look and talk the talk that those long old traditional voters want to hear.

But they do not walk that walk once elected..this has steadily became only a seat for private gain and inside sticky fingering.


It is a shame and disgrace to take our third party candidates and treat them like a minority stripped of their rights...because they are not worthy to be seen or heard or even considered for the job.

I never even knew a third party name except for Ron Paul and he disappeared in the Obama Romney take over of the show stealing.....the whole as if the show and election is only theirs.

If it was not for the forum I would not have even heard of the other candidates.

This is blatant bigotry and heavy-handedly taking over our elections and having them their way...the two that we only see and hear sparring to entertain us.

This is not a show not entertainment and not a popularity or beauty contest...

This is what is over us and impacts our lives and way of life.

Just for doing what they have done and it was by a gradual increasing intrusive self imposing inching effect..

I would take advantage of the near to ending time and the following their dance steps with the two dancers...just like good little sheepies.

And waltz my rear end into the voting box and vote them both loosers.

Even if they make their rig stick and stick that on us.

There is another way to leave them shamefully holding the bag come next election and we the people have plenty of time to strip the emperor publicly down to butt naked.

He would not even see it coming at all....them strip him I would.
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The 2nd Third Party Debate - may not happen...


Gary Johnson Polls: Johnson is at Six Percent, While Jill Stein is In Jail

PolicyMic-3 hours ago
The third party debate between Jill Stein and Gary Johnson has been moved from October 30 to November 5, which gave Green Party nominee ...

All third party candidates are not equal. Johnson is polling at 6% nationally, while Stein does not even come close even if you count her as the amorphous “someone else” that appears on poll questionnaires. Johnson is running as a third party using ideas and conviction, There is no reason for Stein not to do likewise. There is also no reason the Green Party should be "less legitimate" than the Libertarian Party. The Former Green Party nominee Ralph Nader obtained 2.7% of thevote in the 2000 election, majorly impacting the overall election. Stein getting arrested twice in a campaign season is unacceptable for someone seeking votes to become leader of the free world. It is a short cut to a means (publicity) that hurts an end (becoming president).

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