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Tepco Official in Washington DC: We don’t know location of melted fuel from Fukushima reactors

 
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Tepco Official in Washington DC: We don’t know location of melted fuel from Fukushima reactors
Fukushima panel told some details will take five years to learn

Key details of how the accident at Japan’s Fukushima I nuclear plant played out have yet to be determined and may not be known for five years or more, when important parts of the plant are safer to enter, officials with the Japanese and US nuclear industries told a US National Academies review committee Thursday.

A committee of the National Academies is conducting the study, which is mandated by Congress, on behalf of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The committee held its second data-gathering session Thursday in Washington.

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Yasunori Yamanaka, manager of Tepco’s nuclear safety engineering group, said following the meeting that one of the key pieces of information that will be learned in the coming years is the location and condition of the core of nuclear fuel in the three reactors that experienced meltdowns. Tepco believes the uranium fuel of unit 1 at Fukushima I almost entirely melted its way through the bottom of the thick steel reactor vessel and poured to the floor of the containment structure, eating through a portion of the concrete floor of that area.

The company plans to use cameras and other surveillance equipment to determine how much of the core of units 2 and 3 remain in the reactor, Yamanaka said. The company believes almost half of the fuel in those units, which maintained core cooling longer, melted, he said. It may take more than five years before Tepco can determine whether the fuel in those units remains in the bottom of the reactor vessel or also fell to the containment floor, Yamanaka said.

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Regarding Yamanaka’s statements:

1. Tepco has admitted that their simulation shows the fuel at Reactor 1 not only burned through the pressure vessel, but came within 27 centimeters of leaving the containment vessel. Others have said they believe the fuel is outside containment. (Source: NHK)
2. Tepco has admitted that reactors 1,2, and 3 experienced full meltdowns — not “almost half” at Reactors 2 and 3. (Source: CNN)
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Re: Tepco Official in Washington DC: We don’t know location of melted fuel from Fukushima reactors
No need to worry. They just left it by the thing holding the stuff. (Thing = container, stuff = food.)
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Re: Tepco Official in Washington DC: We don’t know location of melted fuel from Fukushima reactors
And Reactor 4?
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Re: Tepco Official in Washington DC: We don’t know location of melted fuel from Fukushima reactors
Because it's half way to the core of the earth by now...

It's called the CHINA SYNDROME...it's not a mystery.. iamwith
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Re: Tepco Official in Washington DC: We don’t know location of melted fuel from Fukushima reactors
Because it's half way to the core of the earth by now...

It's called the CHINA SYNDROME...it's not a mystery.. iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


Looking for input and sharing not name calling. We have a poster from Japan and another from Australia for that. Oh, and Atom Boy.

If you would like to provide a link?

Here is the latest about Reactor 4... Or Unit 4.

Thread: Must See: Tepco releases badly altered image of Fukushima Unit 4 (PHOTO)

Thread: Tepco: We fabricated part of the photo Unit 4 - Fukushima
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Re: Tepco Official in Washington DC: We don’t know location of melted fuel from Fukushima reactors
This information is correct but has been known for awhile.
Tepco tried to blow smoke at first but were caught in a lot of lies.
The corium may or may not be in containment. When I say containment I mean the torus and torus room, if it has escaped the vessel. Depends on the condition of the corium and whether or not it has gathered enough impurities to cool.
The temperature of the corium could be anywhere from 2500F to 5000F.
If it is still hot and melting through, it will get to the concrete and ablate it until it gets into the ground..

Nobody knows because you can't get in and out of there alive.. robots can't either.
Give it a few years..
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Re: Tepco Official in Washington DC: We don’t know location of melted fuel from Fukushima reactors
Thanks Bug!

Arnie Gundersen in April 2012:

The radiation fields at Reactor No. 2 are comparable to what we see in space…

It’s leaking like a sieve…

No one knows how they’re ever going to remove the fuel in my lifetime… likely for 50, 60, 70 years until some of this radiation decays away… and that’s the good news. Units 1 and 3 they can’t even get into because they’re even worse.
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Thanks Bug!

Arnie Gundersen in April 2012:

The radiation fields at Reactor No. 2 are comparable to what we see in space…

It’s leaking like a sieve…

No one knows how they’re ever going to remove the fuel in my lifetime… likely for 50, 60, 70 years until some of this radiation decays away… and that’s the good news. Units 1 and 3 they can’t even get into because they’re even worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19900410


Yeah. I was floored the first time I realized that this fiasco will be going on still when my grandkids have grandkids and well beyond..

Pisses me off. It ain't worth it. It is not something we can't do without.

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Thanks Bug!

Arnie Gundersen in April 2012:

The radiation fields at Reactor No. 2 are comparable to what we see in space…

It’s leaking like a sieve…

No one knows how they’re ever going to remove the fuel in my lifetime… likely for 50, 60, 70 years until some of this radiation decays away… and that’s the good news. Units 1 and 3 they can’t even get into because they’re even worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19900410


Yeah. I was floored the first time I realized that this fiasco will be going on still when my grandkids have grandkids and well beyond..

Pisses me off. It ain't worth it. It is not something we can't do without.

glow
 Quoting: Waterbug


The "Blue glow". We knew then and we know now now, there is much more to this story. The technology does not exist to deal with this situation, that is why the "world" has not been forthcoming with with answers to the problem.
"Well-behaved women seldom make history." —Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

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Thanks Bug!

Arnie Gundersen in April 2012:

The radiation fields at Reactor No. 2 are comparable to what we see in space…

It’s leaking like a sieve…

No one knows how they’re ever going to remove the fuel in my lifetime… likely for 50, 60, 70 years until some of this radiation decays away… and that’s the good news. Units 1 and 3 they can’t even get into because they’re even worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19900410


Yeah. I was floored the first time I realized that this fiasco will be going on still when my grandkids have grandkids and well beyond..

Pisses me off. It ain't worth it. It is not something we can't do without.

:glow:
 Quoting: Waterbug


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Thanks Bug!

Arnie Gundersen in April 2012:

The radiation fields at Reactor No. 2 are comparable to what we see in space…

It’s leaking like a sieve…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19900410


Pisses me off. It ain't worth it. It is not something we can't do without.


 Quoting: Waterbug


The technology does not exist to deal with this situation
, that is why the "world" has not been forthcoming with with answers to the problem.
 Quoting: Southern OR


And now we find out that Tepco is pushing to restart not only reactors 5 and 6 at Fukushima-Daiichi, but also 1 through 4 at Daiini..

Good luck with all that..

goof

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