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A question about abortion....

 
Jack Daphne

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09/09/2012 06:25 PM

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09/09/2012 06:28 PM
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OP..

the first breathe is the start of life....until then the body is part of the mothers system.

having an abortion is no different than getting your appendix out per say
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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09/09/2012 10:06 PM
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Re: A question about abortion....
No.
Not all fetuses make it.
Not all pre-fetus fertilized cell make it.
Not aborting doesn't ensure "would-be".
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Thanks for not reading. I excluded cases of miscarriages etc.
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but why?
according to your logic, that miscarriage is a dead baby. So I guess God is the murderer in that case.
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please answer my original question and tell me if you are in support of abortion
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OP..

the first breathe is the start of life....until then the body is part of the mothers system.

having an abortion is no different than getting your appendix out per say
 Quoting: Matrix-V


you are also not answering the original question
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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09/09/2012 10:09 PM
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"i've bolded the part above - ironic that your ancient book means you think you have the authority to decide whether or not that the foetus grows to full term though"

"is miscarriage murder too?"

You illustrate my point, thank you both.

Can i correctly assume that you both agree that the answer is "yes" however, you still condone abortion?




By the way, i can't resist commenting, the question "is miscarriage murder too?" is just plain stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1390471


it supposedly illustrates your point but you don't respond to it

if miscarriage is the body's way of dispensing with a pregnancy does that mean the body has gone against your tribal deity?

if a woman purposely makes that decision herself she does it on her own authority, whereas the authority of your particular brand of religion is what she should surrender herself to?
if your god is so bothered and tearful about a pregnancy going to full term why does it then let thousands of children then die of starvation every day?
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perhaps you should go back and read every word that i wrote. i did not speak of god or the bible. i asked a simple question based on logic. why dont you answer it?
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09/09/2012 10:12 PM
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anyone who cannot or refuses to answer the original question is running away from truth.

answer my question, then I'll be happy to answer yours.

obviously, i'm challenging you and making a point. just attack it head on.
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09/09/2012 10:26 PM
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Anonymous Coward
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I'd really just like a simple YES or NO answer please.

If a person gets an abortion at ANY stage of a pregnancy and regardless of the reason for the abortion, is it true that the human being that would've been, will not be?

I'll ask it another way:

If the abortion did NOT take place, would the end result be a living human being at some point in time (not withstanding miscarries)?
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Simple yes or no........yes.


What is the point of the question by the way?
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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09/29/2012 04:02 PM
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I'd really just like a simple YES or NO answer please.

If a person gets an abortion at ANY stage of a pregnancy and regardless of the reason for the abortion, is it true that the human being that would've been, will not be?

I'll ask it another way:

If the abortion did NOT take place, would the end result be a living human being at some point in time (not withstanding miscarries)?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1390471


Simple yes or no........yes.


What is the point of the question by the way?
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The point is that it makes the "it's not a baby yet" argument invalid. Whether you consider it a baby or not, your termination of it prevents a human from drawing it's first breath of air. I think that there is no more powerful argument that you can make if you're talking to someone who is pro-abortion.
It renders moot the opinions about when is it a baby and when life begins.
the mighty Atom

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09/29/2012 04:14 PM
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Many People here in Asia think that a Baby get invaded, Occupied,
or what so ever by a Human Spirit/ Soul ca. 1 Week
after the Baby is born!
(Not born with a Spirit/ Soul)

This means that it doesn't matter,
when the Fetus is aborted,
the Human Spirit would just go on for his next Chance!

PS: I don't know the Truth, i even really doubt everything!

Last Edited by the mighty Atom on 09/29/2012 04:14 PM
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bump to coincide with the other abortion question thread
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This means that it doesn't matter,
when the Fetus is aborted,
the Human Spirit would just go on for his next Chance!

 Quoting: the mighty Atom


That's what I believe too, Mighty Atom.


So my answer to your question OP is No - aborting a fetus does not prevent that person from ever being born, it may simply delay their human existence somewhat. I see it as though the fetus is a house for the soul, and if that house gets destroyed for what ever reason, the soul must wait until a new house is built for it. The person that soul is to be will still become, but perhaps not at that specific time.
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OP..

the first breathe is the start of life....until then the body is part of the mothers system.

having an abortion is no different than getting your appendix out per say
 Quoting: Matrix-V


If a person is declared dead when their heart stops beating,

Then why aren't they considered alive when their heart is beating?

A baby has a heartbeat at a very early stage in the pregnancy.
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Re: A question about abortion....
OP..

the first breathe is the start of life....until then the body is part of the mothers system.

having an abortion is no different than getting your appendix out per say
 Quoting: Matrix-V


If a person is declared dead when their heart stops beating,

Then why aren't they considered alive when their heart is beating?

A baby has a heartbeat at a very early stage in the pregnancy.
 Quoting: mopar28m


A person ISN'T declared dead when their heart stops beating.
A fetus heart starts to "beat" when it's around 5 or 6 weeks old. But although it's beating it's not really functioning as a heart, it's just an autonomic function of the cardiac cells. The heart isn't really formed properly until around 12-14 weeks.

So if I'm guessing correctly, by your argument any abortion prior to this is okay.

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