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Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!

 
FatalW1shes

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Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
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The low on Dec 2008 was 663.


We are currently at 669.

WOW...

Feb 6 2012 we it hit 648 for the all time low.
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The low on Dec 2008 was 663.


We are currently at 669.

WOW...

Feb 6 2012 we it hit 648 for the all time low.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


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The low on Dec 2008 was 663.


We are currently at 669.

WOW...

Feb 6 2012 we it hit 648 for the all time low.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Hope-n-change...
Now all we need is for someone to yank $500Bil in liquidity out of the system in just a few hours.
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
[link to www.bloomberg.com]


The low on Dec 2008 was 663.


We are currently at 669.

WOW...

Feb 6 2012 we it hit 648 for the all time low.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


The BDI does not reflect market fundamentals

It has been skewed by the fact greek shippers overbuilt in the 2006-2008 period then used death spiral financing to attempt to avoid bankruptcy
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
UUughh... so now it begins?

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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
None of these indices seem to have any impact on reality, or reality seems to have no impact on the money markets, we livein strange times, and the weirdness seemsto go forever with no end in sight.
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
[link to www.bloomberg.com]


The low on Dec 2008 was 663.


We are currently at 669.

WOW...

Feb 6 2012 we it hit 648 for the all time low.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


The BDI does not reflect market fundamentals
It has been skewed by the fact greek shippers overbuilt in the 2006-2008 period then used death spiral financing to attempt to avoid bankruptcy
 Quoting: Blue Zeus


"market fundamentals"

You're kidding right ??
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Who cares? Only the wealthy will be seriously affected, and they are sub-human creatures who will very soon be consigned to the dustbin of history - as well as hellfire.
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09/08/2012 01:34 AM
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
It is an insignificant index..... why is this pinned??????
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[link to www.bloomberg.com]


The low on Dec 2008 was 663.


We are currently at 669.

WOW...

Feb 6 2012 we it hit 648 for the all time low.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


The BDI does not reflect market fundamentals
It has been skewed by the fact greek shippers overbuilt in the 2006-2008 period then used death spiral financing to attempt to avoid bankruptcy
 Quoting: Blue Zeus


"market fundamentals"

You're kidding right ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22162470


no, not kidding

its just the way its perceived

depends of course what your goals are

if you just want to feel gloomy, thats cool, and you can use the BDI to support your position

if you want to take a position based on the BDI, then you are losing money

as my first boss used to say: do you want to be right, or do you want to make money?

I'm not sure what the purpose of this thread is

If it is to reflect angst, thats one thing. If you are trying to determine a direction against which you can take a financial position, then I'm not sure its going to achieve the goal you desire
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
All I know is, we need some fricken doom......
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It is an insignificant index..... why is this pinned??????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14863108


No It's not...
It's a LEADING indicator.
Shipping orders have to placed 60-90 days out.
That it is this low in the Christmas item shipping season is VERY significant.
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
This chart s so obvious, yes we are on a brink of economic collapse and this chart is comfirming it, whether you like it ornot.
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
It is an insignificant index..... why is this pinned??????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14863108


No It's not...
It's a LEADING indicator.
Shipping orders have to placed 60-90 days out.
That it is this low in the Christmas item shipping season is VERY significant.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


and you still have money cowboys disregarding it due to the "market fundamentals", and backing it up with simple sentences from their "teachers". oh, blind and awaken at the same time, that cowboy should have realized by now that it can only be in one of those states of mind..

..both things at the same time = zombie money cowboyspope
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
You think the average sheeple gives two damns about a BDI index? Hahaha to them that might as well stand for a garbage company
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
[link to www.bloomberg.com]


The low on Dec 2008 was 663.


We are currently at 669.

WOW...

Feb 6 2012 we it hit 648 for the all time low.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Hope-n-change...
Now all we need is for someone to yank $500Bil in liquidity out of the system in just a few hours.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Which is exactly what happened in 2008.



02:18 onwards.
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It is an insignificant index..... why is this pinned??????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14863108


we are busy with the nobody !!
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
BDI Index A.K.A. the index no one gives a fuck about it
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all is well citizen, return to your work or rest period.
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You think the average sheeple gives two damns about a BDI index? Hahaha to them that might as well stand for a garbage company
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13363335


BDI index, waz dat fer. cruise
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None of these indices seem to have any impact on reality, or reality seems to have no impact on the money markets, we livein strange times, and the weirdness seemsto go forever with no end in sight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8829929

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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
The BDI does not reflect market fundamentals

It has been skewed by the fact greek shippers overbuilt in the 2006-2008 period then used death spiral financing to attempt to avoid bankruptcy
 Quoting: Blue Zeus


The BDI is just a price Index. It was as low as now at the beginning of the year and meant absolutely nothing.

Pointing to the BDI for economic doom is like pointing to the S&P and say: "look the S&P is at years high, the economy must be good"!
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Croikey!
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
[link to www.bloomberg.com]


The low on Dec 2008 was 663.


We are currently at 669.

WOW...

Feb 6 2012 we it hit 648 for the all time low.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Hope-n-change...
Now all we need is for someone to yank $500Bil in liquidity out of the system in just a few hours.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Which is exactly what happened in 2008.



02:18 onwards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23386635


WTF!wtfwtf
Classic.
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
Watching the market is a complete waste of time. It is controlled by computers and TPTB; therefore, it will be taken down by computers and TPTB.

WHEN THEY ARE READY
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Watching the market is a complete waste of time. It is controlled by computers and TPTB; therefore, it will be taken down by computers and TPTB.

WHEN THEY ARE READY
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21704313


clappa
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Re: Oh SHIT BDI Index 6 points away from 2008 LOW!!
UUughh... so now it begins?

spock
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again.
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The Baltic Dry Index is important for economists, because it almost immediately follows the world economy without any political or other influence. While other economic indicators can be influenced - employment figures are often estimates, consumer confidence measure no more than sentiment, often without link with consumer spending and the Gross domestic product (GDP) is regularly updated - BDI responds only to the volume of world trade. The speculative element of the exhibition is lacking, because a ship is only chartered if cargo has to be transported.
Source: [link to translate.google.nl]

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The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

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The Baltic Dry Index is important for economists, because it almost immediately follows the world economy without any political or other influence. While other economic indicators can be influenced - employment figures are often estimates, consumer confidence measure no more than sentiment, often without link with consumer spending and the Gross domestic product (GDP) is regularly updated - BDI responds only to the volume of world trade. The speculative element of the exhibition is lacking, because a ship is only chartered if cargo has to be transported.
Source: [link to translate.google.nl]

siren2siren2siren2
 Quoting: Wubbo Ockels


This^
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The Baltic Dry Index is important for economists, because it almost immediately follows the world economy without any political or other influence.
 Quoting: Wubbo Ockels


Nonsense. The BDI was as low as now at the beginning of this year, and signalled nothing.

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