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Peace, love, miracles, genius, heros, health, wealth, flowers, gardens, vacations, flying, skydiving, swimming, dogs, cats, laughing, family, joy, giving, caring, healing, helping, yummy food, wine, wind, music, men, women, children, learning something new, dancing, having an epiphany, sleep, waking, owning a home, your first date, your first kiss, a strangers smile, sailing, skiing, watching ET for the first time, Christmas, the birth of your child, college, creating, adopting a pet, sleeping in, making cookies, having a best friend, sharing popcorn, getting married, getting a raise, getting a job you love, climbing a tree, your first Harley, a bubble bath, a rainbow, snow, surfing that wave, hitting the mark, warm blankets, kitties, springtime, anytime, meditation, the night sky, the stars, a fozen lake, a moonbeam, perfume, gold coins, ping pong, comedians, sunshine, scubadiving, making love, new shoes, promises kept, kindness, hugging and cuddeling, giving a gift, getting a gift, providing safety, adoration, friendship, fearlessness, jello, icecream, remembering, inspiration, having, living, studying, owning, youthfulness, spirit, celebration, bravery, truth, GLP, (lol), freedom...

Seems to me we are also in heaven...viewpoint/attitude is everything.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Yes, I know where u are coming from...I do, but there are somethings that can happen to one....that leaves one with post traumatic stress syndrome...like the loss of a child or what our soldiers go through in war.

These things change people through no fault of their own.
It goes without saying that this affects their viewpoint/attitude.
 Quoting: Krystal


You are correct. But one is never powerless, especially with their own mind/memories. There are ways to heal the soul...but one has to want to, first, and then second, KNOW that it is possible to heal oneself. Lots of men have problems with this because they are taught to not look at their own emotions let alone talk about them.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


I think we all have moments of clarity, even the most tortured of us. During those moments, we can see what u see, and we imagine we are healed.

Alas, we awaken to our tortured existance another day, and we see through veiled eyes. We stumble in the darkness, and no one can tell us the sun is shining right outside our front door.

No one can see what another sees...not really. Everyone has their own perception. However, the degree of decay in this world is there for anyone's eyes.
 Quoting: Krystal


Oh Krystal . . . 'the decree of decay is there for anyone's eyes' - but you can choose to see all the beauty in this world as well, and that is more powerful - just turn it around. It really is a state of mind.


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And to think just 4 years ago everyone thought we'd be living in a utopia by now.....
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lmao
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I use the word hell,for lack of a better word and i dont literally mean the bibles version of hell,but wherever we really are and whatever earth actually is,unfortunately, hell is more than a very good description...

and i think we have already lived and died within the real world,perhaps the fourth dimension and our souls have already been judged and sentenced and we have been damned and condemned to be born into this materialistic reality,to suffer and die and be reborn here again and again,forever...
 Quoting: mike 23291960


Since Satan rules the world, of course it seems like that. He doesn't rule the earth, only the world system where everything you said, comes from.

As for nature, that is the way they are, nothing wrong with that, it keeps balance.

There is an opposite side you just have a hard time seeing it. It is there, really.
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I honestly dont know how any one person can,never mind the billions of people who still do,continue praising and surrendering their only souls to a god they have never seen or heard,a god who they remain convinced is a kind and loving being,despite all the relentless earthly horrors i listed above and whenever those billions of people gather to pray within their countless churches,mosques and temples,they are unknowingly focusing,funneling and feeding massive amounts of psychic energies into the gaping jaws and nefarious mind of the diabolical beast who created this war torn,genocide ripped soul dungeon,this materialistic fallen world we were all thrown upon wothout any choice and that sinister monster is continuously channeling that pshchic energy,devouring it and growing ever stronger and more evil from it every day and night and that is why terrible sufferings and destructions are perpetually unleashed upon humanity,because the blinded by blind faith sheeple are so easily misled far astray in hell and like it or not,admit it or not,or decide to live and die in denial of its possibility,i think thats the horrible truth...
 Quoting: mike 24044715


I love you MIKE!
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Are we in hell?...

Hmmmmm?...Lets see...

war, arson, murder, disease, old age, starvation, lying, tears, pain, suicide, stealing, cheating, blizzards, locust, genocide, floods, land mines mental retardation, train wrecks, strokes, drought, brain damage, homelessness, earthquakes, poverty, volcanic eruptions, rape, tidal waves, child abuse, animal attacks, broken bones, work, bloody wounds, asteroid impacts, plane crashes, drug addiction, heart attacks, bombs, ozone depletion, stinging insects, abortion, hail, torture, denial, class seperation, extortion, stabbing, greed, hurricanes, car crashes, forclosure, avalanches, lust, jealousy, lonliness, comet impacts, prison, depression, aneurysms, tanks, rogue waves, nausea, bribery, religious persecution, false accusations, thirst, blood clots, tornadoes, excrement, kidnapping, sleet, landslides, slavery, death camps, flame throwers, witch hunts, drownings, police brutality, toxicity, abcesses, cemetaries, snuff films, vengeance, extinction, paranoia, divorce, gluttony, terrorist attacks, frostbite, rage, mudslides, vomit, morgues, taxes, atomic weapons, whirlpools, senility, funerals, gamma ray bursts, cancer, infidelity, deafness, brainwashing, skeletal fractures, riots, quicksand, animal experimentation, hate, ransom, urine, schizophrenia, down bursts, amnesia, lightning strikes, garbage, skin bruises, grief, fainting, radioactivity, sunburn, poison, incest, mourning, strangulation, assault, puss, serial killing, choking, stillborn, autopsies, blindness, wakes, fear, nervous breakdowns, racism, the grave, blackouts, mass shootings, wild fires, decay, infections, shock, dementia, multiple personalities, toothaches, alcoholism, coffins, nuclear meltdowns, embalming, megalomania, loansharking, electrocution, insanity, gang violence, hopelessness, withering, molestation, solar flares, mistrust, sink holes, strife, ice ages, economic collapse, tyranny, headaches, destitution, shell shock, fatigue, intimidation, hypothermia, machine guns, inflation, rabies, sore throats, pole shifts, traffic jams, plagues, hypothermia, earaches, hijacking, home invasions, tombstones, super storms...

Hmmmmm?...Sure looks like we are...
 Quoting: mike 23291960




LOL ...very good op. This is what happens when life is out of balance.
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Heaven is everything God is, and Hell is everything God is NOT.
If God is love, then there is love in Heaven. If God is joy, then there is joy in Heaven. If God is peace, then there is peace in Heaven.

The same is true with Hell. If Satan is hate, then there is hate in Hell. If he is anger, then there is anger in Hell.

Hell is the ONE place that you cannot feel God's presence. Although Earth is becoming more corrupted due to sin every day, you can still feel that presence. There is still some love, or good, or joy on Earth.

There will be none of that in Hell. It will be a place of misery, hate, sadness, depression, etc. No matter how you scream out, you will not be able to feel God's presence at all.

I don't care how bad the world is. None of us have EVER experienced the complete absence of God's presence. When I try to imagine it, I just see darkness. I can't begin to fathom what that feels like.

So, no this world isn't Hell. Hell is FAR, FAR WORSE.Know Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.

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"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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If you have any small bit of belief or faith in GOD - then PRAY!

Nothing mankind can do is going to deliver us out of this mess. There is only one who has the POWER and the GLORY to change this hellish mess. May you seek him. Seek and you will find HIM. Ask and it will be given unto you. Believe, for HE is real!
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beauty is all around you,
open your heart,
let it in.
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nope there are good things here.
Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God.
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Are we in hell?...

Hmmmmm?...Lets see...

war, arson, murder, disease, old age, starvation, lying, tears, pain, suicide, stealing, cheating, blizzards, locust, genocide, floods, land mines mental retardation, train wrecks, strokes, drought, brain damage, homelessness, earthquakes, poverty, volcanic eruptions, rape, tidal waves, child abuse, animal attacks, broken bones, work, bloody wounds, asteroid impacts, plane crashes, drug addiction, heart attacks, bombs, ozone depletion, stinging insects, abortion, hail, torture, denial, class seperation, extortion, stabbing, greed, hurricanes, car crashes, forclosure, avalanches, lust, jealousy, lonliness, comet impacts, prison, depression, aneurysms, tanks, rogue waves, nausea, bribery, religious persecution, false accusations, thirst, blood clots, tornadoes, excrement, kidnapping, sleet, landslides, slavery, death camps, flame throwers, witch hunts, drownings, police brutality, toxicity, abcesses, cemetaries, snuff films, vengeance, extinction, paranoia, divorce, gluttony, terrorist attacks, frostbite, rage, mudslides, vomit, morgues, taxes, atomic weapons, whirlpools, senility, funerals, gamma ray bursts, cancer, infidelity, deafness, brainwashing, skeletal fractures, riots, quicksand, animal experimentation, hate, ransom, urine, schizophrenia, down bursts, amnesia, lightning strikes, garbage, skin bruises, grief, fainting, radioactivity, sunburn, poison, incest, mourning, strangulation, assault, puss, serial killing, choking, stillborn, autopsies, blindness, wakes, fear, nervous breakdowns, racism, the grave, blackouts, mass shootings, wild fires, decay, infections, shock, dementia, multiple personalities, toothaches, alcoholism, coffins, nuclear meltdowns, embalming, megalomania, loansharking, electrocution, insanity, gang violence, hopelessness, withering, molestation, solar flares, mistrust, sink holes, strife, ice ages, economic collapse, tyranny, headaches, destitution, shell shock, fatigue, intimidation, hypothermia, machine guns, inflation, rabies, sore throats, pole shifts, traffic jams, plagues, hypothermia, earaches, hijacking, home invasions, tombstones, super storms...

Hmmmmm?...Sure looks like we are...
 Quoting: mike 23291960



naa..hell is...

American King James Version
And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.
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Didn't read the entire thread but my take is Hell is the failure of your lifes greatest ambition. If you didn't accomplish whatever you have set out to do in your life like becoming something in your career or a mother, father, wife, husband, etc or have a kid possibly then that is your HELL.
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Why don't people actually research what hell is, Hell is the grave(death)
The English word Hell occurs in the Bible fifty-five times, thirty-two in the Old Testament and twenty-three in the New Testament. The original terms translated Hell, Sheol-Hadees occur in the Old Testament sixty-four times and in the New Testament twenty-four times; Hadees eleven times, Gehenna twelve times and Tartarus once. In every instance the meaning is death, the grave or the consequences of sin in this life.
[link to hellbusters.8m.com]
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Yes, I know where u are coming from...I do, but there are somethings that can happen to one....that leaves one with post traumatic stress syndrome...like the loss of a child or what our soldiers go through in war.

These things change people through no fault of their own.
It goes without saying that this affects their viewpoint/attitude.
 Quoting: Krystal


You are correct. But one is never powerless, especially with their own mind/memories. There are ways to heal the soul...but one has to want to, first, and then second, KNOW that it is possible to heal oneself. Lots of men have problems with this because they are taught to not look at their own emotions let alone talk about them.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


I think we all have moments of clarity, even the most tortured of us. During those moments, we can see what u see, and we imagine we are healed.

Alas, we awaken to our tortured existance another day, and we see through veiled eyes. We stumble in the darkness, and no one can tell us the sun is shining right outside our front door.

No one can see what another sees...not really. Everyone has their own perception. However, the degree of decay in this world is there for anyone's eyes.
 Quoting: Krystal


Oh Krystal . . . 'the decree of decay is there for anyone's eyes' - but you can choose to see all the beauty in this world as well, and that is more powerful - just turn it around. It really is a state of mind.


:BabyEle:
 Quoting: Sloane


I see beauty everyday in my home, my baby doggie Lucy, my Mom, and my son...all beautiful, and I love them greatly. Don't get me wrong...I have beauty in my life, and oh, my mountain.

I lost a child, and my life changed drastically after that. I will never be the person I used to be, and that is why I understand pain so well.

However, I am joyful, and I am grateful for everything my Source has given me. I love my Source, and my Source loves me. This is my religion, and I believe in the Source from Whence I Came.

I am not going to ever change, and I like myself the way I am, so people don't tell me to change. I am beautiful the way I am.:pyw:
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They'll tell you Black is really White,
the moon is just the sun at night,
and when you walk in Golden Halls
you get to keep the gold that falls
... it's Heaven and Hell!


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Remember God told Adam and Eve they would die. Satan told them they would not die(they have an immortal soul). Fact is the wages of sin is death.
Jon. 2:2, 6, "Out of the belly of Hell (Sheol-Hadees) I cried, and You heard my voice, earth with her bars was about me forever."
Even an eternal Hell lasted but three days.
Jacob wished to go there.
Gen. 37:35, "I will go down into Sheol (the grave, Hades) unto my son mourning."
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And to think just 4 years ago everyone thought we'd be living in a utopia by now.....
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lmao
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:mhj:Well, guess they were wrong, but we always have Disneyland and Sandals beach resort...or DollyWood.
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Didn't read the entire thread but my take is Hell is the failure of your lifes greatest ambition. If you didn't accomplish whatever you have set out to do in your life like becoming something in your career or a mother, father, wife, husband, etc or have a kid possibly then that is your HELL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13363335


That makes sense.:lkj:
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They'll tell you Black is really White,
the moon is just the sun at night,
and when you walk in Golden Halls
you get to keep the gold that falls
... it's Heaven and Hell!



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Thank u, ghost runner!
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Why don't people actually research what hell is, Hell is the grave(death)
The English word Hell occurs in the Bible fifty-five times, thirty-two in the Old Testament and twenty-three in the New Testament. The original terms translated Hell, Sheol-Hadees occur in the Old Testament sixty-four times and in the New Testament twenty-four times; Hadees eleven times, Gehenna twelve times and Tartarus once. In every instance the meaning is death, the grave or the consequences of sin in this life.
[link to hellbusters.8m.com]
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Thank u for that.:lkj:
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You are correct. But one is never powerless, especially with their own mind/memories. There are ways to heal the soul...but one has to want to, first, and then second, KNOW that it is possible to heal oneself. Lots of men have problems with this because they are taught to not look at their own emotions let alone talk about them.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


I think we all have moments of clarity, even the most tortured of us. During those moments, we can see what u see, and we imagine we are healed.

Alas, we awaken to our tortured existance another day, and we see through veiled eyes. We stumble in the darkness, and no one can tell us the sun is shining right outside our front door.

No one can see what another sees...not really. Everyone has their own perception. However, the degree of decay in this world is there for anyone's eyes.
 Quoting: Krystal


Oh Krystal . . . 'the decree of decay is there for anyone's eyes' - but you can choose to see all the beauty in this world as well, and that is more powerful - just turn it around. It really is a state of mind.


BabyEle
 Quoting: Sloane


I see beauty everyday in my home, my baby doggie Lucy, my Mom, and my son...all beautiful, and I love them greatly. Don't get me wrong...I have beauty in my life, and oh, my mountain.

I lost a child, and my life changed drastically after that. I will never be the person I used to be, and that is why I understand pain so well.

However, I am joyful, and I am grateful for everything my Source has given me. I love my Source, and my Source loves me. This is my religion, and I believe in the Source from Whence I Came.

I am not going to ever change, and I like myself the way I am, so people don't tell me to change. I am beautiful the way I am.:pyw:
 Quoting: Krystal



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We are all in life...nobody knows why we are here. For everything you posted, there is a positive, but that's not the point.

You are in life...and that's that.
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I suppose to the nobody this would be like hell, sometimes, watching your children kill each other and never being able to get through to them.

But yes, we can get out.
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Didn't read the entire thread but my take is Hell is the failure of your lifes greatest ambition. If you didn't accomplish whatever you have set out to do in your life like becoming something in your career or a mother, father, wife, husband, etc or have a kid possibly then that is your HELL.
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That makes sense.:lkj:
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Fair enough.
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I think we all have moments of clarity, even the most tortured of us. During those moments, we can see what u see, and we imagine we are healed.

Alas, we awaken to our tortured existance another day, and we see through veiled eyes. We stumble in the darkness, and no one can tell us the sun is shining right outside our front door.

No one can see what another sees...not really. Everyone has their own perception. However, the degree of decay in this world is there for anyone's eyes.
 Quoting: Krystal


Oh Krystal . . . 'the decree of decay is there for anyone's eyes' - but you can choose to see all the beauty in this world as well, and that is more powerful - just turn it around. It really is a state of mind.


:BabyEle:
 Quoting: Sloane


I see beauty everyday in my home, my baby doggie Lucy, my Mom, and my son...all beautiful, and I love them greatly. Don't get me wrong...I have beauty in my life, and oh, my mountain.

I lost a child, and my life changed drastically after that. I will never be the person I used to be, and that is why I understand pain so well.

However, I am joyful, and I am grateful for everything my Source has given me. I love my Source, and my Source loves me. This is my religion, and I believe in the Source from Whence I Came.

I am not going to ever change, and I like myself the way I am, so people don't tell me to change. I am beautiful the way I am.:pyw:
 Quoting: Krystal


Thank u ever so much, Sloane...it is pure beauty.:eum:


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Amazing how one of the MOST SPIRITUAL tribes of Earth (the Negro) have become THE MOST MATERIALISTIC !!!


The Abomination of Desolation.

"Jesus wept."
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I use the word hell,for lack of a better word and i dont literally mean the bibles version of hell,but wherever we really are and whatever earth actually is,unfortunately, hell is more than a very good description...

and i think we have already lived and died within the real world,perhaps the fourth dimension and our souls have already been judged and sentenced and we have been damned and condemned to be born into this materialistic reality,to suffer and die and be reborn here again and again,forever...
 Quoting: mike 23291960


Well, killing yourself won't do a damn bit of good will it?

What always bothers me is all the secrecy. Why can't I know if I am here to pay for bad karma and what it was that I did wrong before? Why the big secret? If there is any way out of here, it would have to be through love and understanding, not by taking punishment for many lifetimes when I don't know what it is about or why. Not helpful and serves no damned logical purpose. Unless sadistic aliens really are in control.

I am defiant to any power that would mete out punishment in such a stupid and hateful way.
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Dont ya worry 'bout a thing its just a bad dream momma...


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313881


Amazing how one of the MOST SPIRITUAL tribes of Earth (the Negro) have become THE MOST MATERIALISTIC !!!


The Abomination of Desolation.

"Jesus wept."
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It is a heartache for those of us who see it.
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I use the word hell,for lack of a better word and i dont literally mean the bibles version of hell,but wherever we really are and whatever earth actually is,unfortunately, hell is more than a very good description...

and i think we have already lived and died within the real world,perhaps the fourth dimension and our souls have already been judged and sentenced and we have been damned and condemned to be born into this materialistic reality,to suffer and die and be reborn here again and again,forever...
 Quoting: mike 23291960


Well, killing yourself won't do a damn bit of good will it?

What always bothers me is all the secrecy. Why can't I know if I am here to pay for bad karma and what it was that I did wrong before? Why the big secret? If there is any way out of here, it would have to be through love and understanding, not by taking punishment for many lifetimes when I don't know what it is about or why. Not helpful and serves no damned logical purpose. Unless sadistic aliens really are in control.

I am defiant to any power that would mete out punishment in such a stupid and hateful way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333


I agree with everything you said...I can see it through your eyes. I don't understand why it is the way it is, but I believe I have My Source from Whence I Came to help me understand. However, even if I understand that does not change how it truly is. Hope I made some sense.
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Dont ya worry 'bout a thing its just a bad dream momma...



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Thanks, I needed that.:srg:

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