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We Are In Hell

 
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This entire Universe is hell, as all life is governed by the cruel law "Survival of the Fittest".

I understand why some of you want to only see the good, it's natural to try and make the best of a bad situation. But the truth is, we're not even supposed to be here. This Universe is evil by design, and we are not native to it.

You Love/Light people that don't want to realize this might be helped by meditating on the fact animal life can only exist by killing other life in this Universe.

No matter how "good" you are, you will still destroy other life forms just to stay alive yourself. It can't be avoided. This proves the this Universe is evil at the core.

We need to stop making ourselves comfortable, and start plotting our escape!
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Dont ya worry 'bout a thing its just a bad dream momma...



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I don't think that was necessary on this thread!
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well hell in some parts of world

but others its not
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Self delusion can be a grand thing!
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happyhearthappyheart Get Groovy, Not Grinchy! happyhearthappyheart
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This entire Universe is hell, as all life is governed by the cruel law "Survival of the Fittest".

I understand why some of you want to only see the good, it's natural to try and make the best of a bad situation. But the truth is, we're not even supposed to be here. This Universe is evil by design, and we are not native to it.

You Love/Light people that don't want to realize this might be helped by meditating on the fact animal life can only exist by killing other life in this Universe.

No matter how "good" you are, you will still destroy other life forms just to stay alive yourself. It can't be avoided. This proves the this Universe is evil at the core.

We need to stop making ourselves comfortable, and start plotting our escape!
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U make sense to me, but how do u know the whole Universe is like this?

I can prove u wrong on one thing, before I would kill another human being, I would let them kill me.

However if they were going to kill my child, my Mom, or my dog, I would kill them...yes.
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Hell is for black children
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You're depressed, OP. Seek help.

Beyond that, check out something like releasetechnique.com to find love, approval (from yourself, not others), and essentially enlightenment.

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Hell is for black children
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Good grief...are u crazy...yep, you are!
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And MonSatan rules over our food.

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U make sense to me, but how do u know the whole Universe is like this?
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We know evil rules effortlessly here on Earth.

We also know evil rules the astral planes, even far away from the solar system. People who astral travel will encounter "greys" who enforce their will on the astral traveler and say who can go where. They "own the astral turf", and they abuse their greater mental power constantly.

I can prove u wrong on one thing, before I would kill another human being, I would let them kill me.

However if they were going to kill my child, my Mom, or my dog, I would kill them...yes.
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I was more considering the basic fact you have to eat to stay alive. If not animals, then at least plants. But you absolutely MUST consume other living things!

The only thing you prove above, is that you are personally aware you are a spirit not of this world, and you try to act accordingly, even when you are trapped in this unnatural environment.

Which is good.

Unfortunately, the Universe we live in does not reward such good behavior. Good is antithetical to it. This Universe naturally rewards evil behavior (like killing your competitors and stealing their resources).
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This shit hole wasn't created by some great loving god. OP already listed why. So we are either in Hell or a matrix simulation.

I'm leaning towards simulation. Even the brightest minds on this planet have evidence of patterns resembling code. Seek youtube videos if you must.

Simulation theory also poses the thought that if you believe humans will eventually be capable of creating a matrix, then we most likely are already living in one. Why? We're probably all evil souls and we decided to revolt against the real god because life in the real world was boring. We all have this desire to be a god, so I think it's pretty likely this is all a sim. Our instincts are to fight and go to war, so a revolt against our real god wouldn't be that far out.

What happens when we die? We probably live again because in a matrix theory situation our consciousnesses would live forever.

Who knows though. No one. This whole damn game is a greek tragedy. It really needs an upgrade badly. I would have never consented to such a poorly written script had I known this would be a reality I had to endure.

I doubt this place even has an escape. Maybe we all did sell our soul and the devil is the grand architect of this reality. That would be a nice double whammy. I think in a good spirited world you would get truth. And that's exactly what we never get. We constantly live wondering what the hell is really going on.
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The cosmos is just a really, really big and really, really lengthy quantum fluctuation. Highly improbable but by no means impossible. As such it is morally neutral, and the perceived hellishness, heavenliness, etc. are nothing more than epiphenominal projections of the human brain.
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You need a cookie
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Balance it out!

Cotton candy, Double rainbows, creative sparks, laughing till you cry, crying till you laugh,inspiration, being barefoot in the grass, Dogs, Cats, Bunnies, Pizza, beaches, oceans, crushes, new love, bonfires, summer nights, snowy mornings, great music, great movies, roller coasters, marijuana, sand castles, Dancing, Friends, backyard BarBQ parties, beer, carnivals, shooting stars, cookies, Dazed and Confused, sitting by a fire in winter, flowers, snow angels, butterflies, love making, milk shakes, french fries, fireworks, The smell of fresh baked bread, Bubbles, Picnics, The Feeling After a Good Workout, Really cold water on hot days, clear, starry nights, Freshly cut grass, laughter of children, long bike rides, Chocolate, Paris in the
spring, Great conversation, Making eye contact with cute strangers, Road trips, finding money, Hot towels out of the dryer, charity, good will and of course.. The Mystery!
 Quoting: Griefo

Just a suggestion for OP....Great movie that
follows a week in the life of a depressed man
(who would swear he's got it all covered) and
what his brother does to shake him out of it!
It's called "THE GAME" (w/Michael Douglas and
Sean Penn) Great flick....very deep message in
there if you are a thinking person! Really....
watch that flick. It helped my perspective
in one of the worst times in my life.
Cheers!
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I believe there are many civilizations throughout the Universe. Each civilization is a stepping stone on the path toward ultimate freedom from this torture, as we are experiencing on earth.

The lower we are on the path or ladder, the harder our existance will be. The higher up we go, the more freedom we acquire from pain.

In this world we have a veil that is over our eyes, which disallows from seeing the truth of existance. If we knew the truth, the game here on earth would much too easy.

I think, here on earth,for every bit of peace we acquire, we equally acquire chaos.

It is like making a cake. We gather all the ingredients around us; then we put them all in a bowl and stir. This is chaos. Then we finally put them in the oven to bake. Soon we will have a whole cake! This is peace.

I hope this makes some sense.:tgf:
 Quoting: Krystal
After dreaming about so many historically accurate past life memories of previous incarnations and during some of them i was speaking foreign languages fluently,that i am unable to speak at all here and now,i am convinced that we are all reborn here on earth again and again and i hope our reincarnations upon earth are not forever,but i have really bad feelings that our incarnations will last for all eternity...

I dont recall who it was,but one of the early nazi leaders during hitlers rise to power said he believed that the souls of the german soldiers who were killed during world war one,were reborn into the bodies of the german soldiers of world war two,seeking vengeance and thats exactly what i mean when i think about how all of us might be reborn again and again throughout our human history that repeats itself down through the ages of time...
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I believe there are many civilizations throughout the Universe. Each civilization is a stepping stone on the path toward ultimate freedom from this torture, as we are experiencing on earth.

The lower we are on the path or ladder, the harder our existance will be. The higher up we go, the more freedom we acquire from pain.

In this world we have a veil that is over our eyes, which disallows from seeing the truth of existance. If we knew the truth, the game here on earth would much too easy.

I think, here on earth,for every bit of peace we acquire, we equally acquire chaos.

It is like making a cake. We gather all the ingredients around us; then we put them all in a bowl and stir. This is chaos. Then we finally put them in the oven to bake. Soon we will have a whole cake! This is peace.

I hope this makes some sense.:tgf:
 Quoting: Krystal
After dreaming about so many historically accurate past life memories of previous incarnations and during some of them i was speaking foreign languages fluently,that i am unable to speak at all here and now,i am convinced that we are all reborn here on earth again and again and i hope our reincarnations upon earth are not forever,but i have really bad feelings that our incarnations will last for all eternity...

I dont recall who it was,but one of the early nazi leaders during hitlers rise to power said he believed that the souls of the german soldiers who were killed during world war one,were reborn into the bodies of the german soldiers of world war two,seeking vengeance and thats exactly what i mean when i think about how all of us might be reborn again and again throughout our human history that repeats itself down through the ages of time...
 Quoting: mike 24044715


As long as you do not learn to forgive yourself and forgive others who have wronged you, you will continue the cycle of reincarnation.
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Why is this thread pinned? Absolutely ridiculous. Of course we aren't in Hell, there are so many good things that happen in life and if you can't see them maybe you are just depressed.

My life is hard, but I enjoy what I can out of it. A well cooked meal, the love of my family and animals, friendship. Sure, work sucks and it feels like I will never get ahead, but I always have something to look forward to.

If this were Hell I would have nothing to look forward to. It would be misery 24/7. There is zero joy in Hell.

Sounds like a few of you need to get out and enjoy the sunshine, or just take vitamin D supplements. You sound depressed.
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As i've said before and i'll say it again,anything that anyone can claim as being good,i can easily expose as being bad,as evil disguised and lurking beneath a thin veneer of beauty...
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War and genocide are brutal,horrifying and evil and so there must also be equally brutal,horrifying and evil explanations about why they perpetually happen to us again and again no matter what any world leader has ever said and done...

The terrible answer,the horrible truth,is because our world leaders are willingly following the commands of their diabolical masters,the evil aliens who reward them with wealth,power and secret technology for aiding and abetting them,implicitly involved in their sinister agenda of enslaving the bodies and souls of humanity...

Those evil aliens,who some will think of as the demons of hell,are able to give our fallen leaders those things, because evil demons and evil aliens are the same monsterous beings and those super advanced,interdimensional entities created this material world we are living and dying upon...

Thats exactly why those diabolical entities are able to levitate and teleport objects,cause physical matter to disappear and reappear and manipulate material reality during poltergeist outbreaks,demonic infestations and human posessions...
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Remember God told Adam and Eve they would die. Satan told them they would not die(they have an immortal soul). Fact is the wages of sin is death.
Jon. 2:2, 6, "Out of the belly of Hell (Sheol-Hadees) I cried, and You heard my voice, earth with her bars was about me forever."
Even an eternal Hell lasted but three days.
Jacob wished to go there.
Gen. 37:35, "I will go down into Sheol (the grave, Hades) unto my son mourning."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24992627
Did god tell adam and eve? that many millions of their childrens childrens children would be driven into gas chambers,put against walls and shot,forced to dig their own graves then buried alive,falsely accused and hanged, dehumanized and demonized as witches then burnt at the stake,drafted into fabricated wars then crippled and killed in battle,dumped into pits filled with dying and dead human bodies,young and old dying from cancer,ripped apart by wild animals,raped and murdered,millions of abortions every year,millions of suicides every year,countless car crash deaths every year,financially opressed and sexually repressed every day...

I could go on and on and on and those are ultimately evil and diabolic realities,some of which we all will be forced to endure and will be killed by sooner or later,the horrible things that happen to the damned souls who were condemned and thrown into hel,you and i...

"Into this house we're born,into this world we're thrown"...Jim Morrison
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They'll tell you Black is really White,
the moon is just the sun at night,
and when you walk in Golden Halls
you get to keep the gold that falls
... it's Heaven and Hell!



 Quoting: ghost runner


Thank u, ghost runner!
 Quoting: Krystal
"My name it means nothing
my fortune is less
my future is shrouded in dark wilderness
sunshine is far away
clouds linger on
everything i posessed now they are gone
oh where can i go to and what can i do
nothing can please me only thoughts are of you
you just left when i begged you to stay
i've not stopped crying since you went away
the world is a lonely place
your on your own
guess i will go home sit down and moan
crying and thinking is all that i do
memories i have remind me of you"

Wow,damn,are those the most hauntingly poetic lyrics ever written or what?!

And its by Black Sabbath from 1971...
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no, hell will be worse.

I don't advise going.

Find mercy, forgiveness through Jesus Christ.

Just sayin!

God Bless you.
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This is absolutely NOT hell. Hell is the complete and total absence of God. The place where there is no chance of hope or redemption. God doesn't put you there - you put yourself there.

This is the realm where we choose the path of our souls.
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I believe there are many civilizations throughout the Universe. Each civilization is a stepping stone on the path toward ultimate freedom from this torture, as we are experiencing on earth.

The lower we are on the path or ladder, the harder our existance will be. The higher up we go, the more freedom we acquire from pain.

In this world we have a veil that is over our eyes, which disallows from seeing the truth of existance. If we knew the truth, the game here on earth would much too easy.

I think, here on earth,for every bit of peace we acquire, we equally acquire chaos.

It is like making a cake. We gather all the ingredients around us; then we put them all in a bowl and stir. This is chaos. Then we finally put them in the oven to bake. Soon we will have a whole cake! This is peace.

I hope this makes some sense.:tgf:
 Quoting: Krystal
After dreaming about so many historically accurate past life memories of previous incarnations and during some of them i was speaking foreign languages fluently,that i am unable to speak at all here and now,i am convinced that we are all reborn here on earth again and again and i hope our reincarnations upon earth are not forever,but i have really bad feelings that our incarnations will last for all eternity...

A-HA! But you see - this is where awakening is key. The soul MUST realize the dream - the condition of being stuck in samsara. Once the being becomes aware and awake the next step is to eliminate DESIRE. The ultimate FORGIVENESS is your key to ABSOLUTE FREEDOM. It is the key and is why Jesus called for it and spoke nothing of reincarnation. Don't waste your precious life waiting around for something big to happen to shake yourself out of the dreaming - don't waste your time trying to balance the scales of justice.

Forgive yourself and forgive all others. Do not let your pride get in the way. It will happen at the most mundane moments of your life. Start this very second. Forgive. End the cycle of birth death rebirth and say yes to your salvation.

I dont recall who it was,but one of the early nazi leaders during hitlers rise to power said he believed that the souls of the german soldiers who were killed during world war one,were reborn into the bodies of the german soldiers of world war two,seeking vengeance and thats exactly what i mean when i think about how all of us might be reborn again and again throughout our human history that repeats itself down through the ages of time...
 Quoting: mike 24044715
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I believe there are many civilizations throughout the Universe. Each civilization is a stepping stone on the path toward ultimate freedom from this torture, as we are experiencing on earth.

The lower we are on the path or ladder, the harder our existance will be. The higher up we go, the more freedom we acquire from pain.

In this world we have a veil that is over our eyes, which disallows from seeing the truth of existance. If we knew the truth, the game here on earth would much too easy.

I think, here on earth,for every bit of peace we acquire, we equally acquire chaos.

It is like making a cake. We gather all the ingredients around us; then we put them all in a bowl and stir. This is chaos. Then we finally put them in the oven to bake. Soon we will have a whole cake! This is peace.

I hope this makes some sense.:tgf:
 Quoting: Krystal
After dreaming about so many historically accurate past life memories of previous incarnations and during some of them i was speaking foreign languages fluently,that i am unable to speak at all here and now,i am convinced that we are all reborn here on earth again and again and i hope our reincarnations upon earth are not forever,but i have really bad feelings that our incarnations will last for all eternity...

I dont recall who it was,but one of the early nazi leaders during hitlers rise to power said he believed that the souls of the german soldiers who were killed during world war one,were reborn into the bodies of the german soldiers of world war two,seeking vengeance and thats exactly what i mean when i think about how all of us might be reborn again and again throughout our human history that repeats itself down through the ages of time...
 Quoting: mike 24044715


A-HA! But you see - this is where awakening is key. The soul MUST realize the dream - the condition of being stuck in samsara. Once the being becomes aware and awake the next step is to eliminate DESIRE. The ultimate FORGIVENESS is your key to ABSOLUTE FREEDOM. It is the key and is why Jesus called for it and spoke nothing of reincarnation. Don't waste your precious life waiting around for something big to happen to shake yourself out of the dreaming - don't waste your time trying to balance the scales of justice.

Forgive yourself and forgive all others. Do not let your pride get in the way. It will happen at the most mundane moments of your life. Start this very second. Forgive. End the cycle of birth death rebirth and say yes to your salvation.
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You're depressed, OP. Seek help.

Beyond that, check out something like releasetechnique.com to find love, approval (from yourself, not others), and essentially enlightenment.
 Quoting: TheDude99
I'm really not depressed at all,but i know my soul is very old,i feel its ancient age every night and day and it has been hammered and torn asunder after existing and dying through many incarnations within this material realm,because i do not look at this world through rose colored glasses,i will not live in this reality while lost in a trance of greed driven denial,i never express my emotions while talking to people from behind a mask of false grandeur and i realize all too well that even though i happened to be reborn into a place and time on earth where evil things and evil people are not all around me now,i know i am not immune from war and genocide and all the other horrors i listed in my opening post...
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no, hell will be worse.

I don't advise going.

Find mercy, forgiveness through Jesus Christ.

Just sayin!

God Bless you.
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It's the only way, my brother or sister. hf
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You're depressed, OP. Seek help.

Beyond that, check out something like releasetechnique.com to find love, approval (from yourself, not others), and essentially enlightenment.
 Quoting: TheDude99
I'm really not depressed at all,but i know my soul is very old,i feel its ancient age every night and day and it has been hammered and torn asunder after existing and dying through many incarnations within this material realm,because i do not look at this world through rose colored glasses,i will not live in this reality while lost in a trance of greed driven denial,i never express my emotions while talking to people from behind a mask of false grandeur and i realize all too well that even though i happened to be reborn into a place and time on earth where evil things and evil people are not all around me now,i know i am not immune from war and genocide and all the other horrors i listed in my opening post...
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Sweetheart, welcome to awakening. Awakening is not enlightenment and it is THE most difficult stage of your soul's progression toward enlightenment and eternal salvation. It is REALLY REALLY painful. You have to be vigilant to stay awake and not succumb to the temptation to fall back into the dream.

This is the dark night of the soul - once you conquer this - you'll be free forever. Forgiveness is the key and most important is forgiveness of yourself for the mistakes you've made and hate yourself for. That's harder than it sounds. But stay strong and know this is the LAST difficult phase. It's the true meaning of resurrection.
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This shit hole wasn't created by some great loving god. OP already listed why. So we are either in Hell or a matrix simulation.

I'm leaning towards simulation. Even the brightest minds on this planet have evidence of patterns resembling code. Seek youtube videos if you must.

Simulation theory also poses the thought that if you believe humans will eventually be capable of creating a matrix, then we most likely are already living in one. Why? We're probably all evil souls and we decided to revolt against the real god because life in the real world was boring. We all have this desire to be a god, so I think it's pretty likely this is all a sim. Our instincts are to fight and go to war, so a revolt against our real god wouldn't be that far out.

What happens when we die? We probably live again because in a matrix theory situation our consciousnesses would live forever.

Who knows though. No one. This whole damn game is a greek tragedy. It really needs an upgrade badly. I would have never consented to such a poorly written script had I known this would be a reality I had to endure.

I doubt this place even has an escape. Maybe we all did sell our soul and the devil is the grand architect of this reality. That would be a nice double whammy. I think in a good spirited world you would get truth. And that's exactly what we never get. We constantly live wondering what the hell is really going on.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10957384
Think about how far and fast our computers and video games have progressed in only twenty or thirty years, as we constantly strive to re-create reality and just think what they will be like in only another fifty years...

So its easy for us to imagine in the far off distant future of say ten thousand years from now,or somewhere in the distant past,humans developed super advanced computers so incredibly powerful,they would be able to create a "fabricated world" a "simulated universe" that we call "our reality"...

They may have done this to preserve their memories within "ancestral simulations" or maybe just for entertainment purposes and here we are...

Perhaps the creators "us from the future or even the past" went extinct either through natural or self inflicted disasters and they "we" are dead and gone,but their "simulation machine" lives on,is in auto pilot mode and is able to up grade and repair itself,as we are reborn over and over and history repeats itself over and over down through the ages...

Or maybe in this far away future there are savage battles on earth,or in the distant past there were ancient atomic wars between the creators "us in the future or the past" and evil aliens who invaded future or past earth and maybe the evil aliens defeated us and hijacked,stole,altered,or were offered as reparations "the simulation machine" and those malevolent entities have downloaded all the misery, suffering and war into our "virtual" world...
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"There is far more to this world than taught in our schools,shown in the media,or proclaimed by the church and state.Most of humanity lives in a hypnotic trance,taking to be reality what is instead a twisted simulacrum of reality, a collective dream in which values are inverted,lies are taken as truth and tyranny is accepted as security.They enjoy their ignorance and cling tightly to the misery that gives them identity"...Thomas Cox

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