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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23279794 United States 09/08/2012 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23279794 So you suggest that instead of sticking with what you believe and standing strong in your own faith a lieing is better? I'm guessing you have no religion or principles. You know about Joe Smith, Morani, and Mormanism right? So you think by telling lies , you are a better person? You believe they are liars so it's ok for you to be a liar? If Joe Smith was lying about Morani, then Mormanism is based on a bunch of lies. It wouldn't make sense to go along with it if you think it's a bunch of lies. Would you submit to Mormanism if you thought it was all lies? Would that make you a better person? I wouldn't feel the need to lie about what I believe in. If they are lyin and I lie to avoid their lies, who is better. A liar is a liar and lying has no place in any faith. |
jadksn User ID: 22267702 United States 09/08/2012 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally think forcing any religious ideas down a child's throat is akin to child abuse. Maybe not legally, but morally. Why not just tell them that you have no interest in going on with their churchgoings, but that you will still love them unconditionally? Can they make you go to church or read scriptures? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23388202 Australia 09/08/2012 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't feel the need to lie about what I believe in. If they are lyin and I lie to avoid their lies, who is better. A liar is a liar and lying has no place in any faith. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23279794 So do you think that Joe Smith was telling the truth about Morani? How serious are you about "lying has no place in any faith."? |
TheSeventhSeal98 (OP) User ID: 23059537 United States 09/08/2012 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally think forcing any religious ideas down a child's throat is akin to child abuse. Maybe not legally, but morally. Quoting: jadksn 22267702 Why not just tell them that you have no interest in going on with their churchgoings, but that you will still love them unconditionally? Can they make you go to church or read scriptures? Because when my sister did that, they kicked her out and never spoke to her again. She was only 16. What science cannot declare, art can suggest; what art suggests silently, poetry speaks aloud; but what poetry fails to explain in words, music can express. - Hazrat Inayat Khan |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22503564 United Kingdom 09/08/2012 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but respect them all the same. (It's not really about them; it's about you.) saying something off the wall like 'I'm vegetarian.. don't do religion down my throat.' & they'll look at each other frowning scratching their heads trying to think of a clever response.. but after a bit of grumbing & mumbling to each other.. they just won't bother you anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4281714 United States 09/08/2012 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Mom, Dad & other biological relations that have yet to snap back to reality. I have decided to write to you to tell you that I have decided to live my life by Axioms. More appropriately, one specific Axiom: "There is no reason to believe unless there is a reason to believe". Now, I'm not ruling God out all together as a possibility. What I am taking issue with are the following: 1.) Ritualism that shows no effect 2.) Thinking books are infallible 3.) Proclamations and shaming as a tool for conversion and/or to "get our way". So as you can see, I would appreciate it if you would keep all of your snarky comments and condescending/scheming comments to yourself. If you wish to speak with me on a mature, open adult level about any number of things, I sure we can do so. You're truly, ~ Tinfoil McGee |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23279794 United States 09/08/2012 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't feel the need to lie about what I believe in. If they are lyin and I lie to avoid their lies, who is better. A liar is a liar and lying has no place in any faith. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23279794 So do you think that Joe Smith was telling the truth about Morani? How serious are you about "lying has no place in any faith."? To be honest with you I really don't know joe smith so I can't say one way or the other what he believes, that would be on him. I do know what I believe and it can't be changed by what anyone else says or does. I am my own person and as far as lying about my faith, it wont ever happen, simple as that. I don't expect anyone to believe what I know to be true. I don't feel the need to lie or be rude or disrespectful to anyone that has a different faith than me. I do not follow man and I don't answer for anyone but me. I'm very serious about lying about your faith though, if you have to lie about it then you must not have much faith. My mom didn't agree with my beliefs but we agreed to disagree and never talked to each other about faith until just before she died, then she wanted to know why I was always so serene and secure in my faith. |
emerald_glow User ID: 924761 United States 09/08/2012 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | scripture says slow to anger, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23396545 SLOW TO ANGER your father is instilling something in you that you will be greatful for when you grow up. try to understand, he is probably filled with emotions from a lifetime of living in a world of deceit. bottom line, he is right ! you are the clay telling the potter how to mold it, we must have discipline, yes your father should read where it says not to let your children sit in anger. maybe if you bring him this verse without the chip on your shoulder and walk away, maybe he will melt a little. hmmmmmmmm we all know we are living in satans grip, we must stand for good....do not let anger control you. Ephesians 6:4 And yee fathers, prouoke not your children to wrath: but bring them vp in the nourture and admonition of the Lord. TRY TO DELIVER THIS WITH COMPASSION ! That was your daddy OP, wasn't he?:-) Emerald_Glow |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1190661 Australia 09/08/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can someone please define a righteous person? It is an amazingly overused term! Afterall, apparently ALL have fallen short of the glory of GOD, through all manner of ways! That being the case can any of us call ourselves righteous? Only the self-righteous would call themselves that - Wouldn't they? |
Se7en User ID: 10246775 United States 09/08/2012 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Parents are right, follow God blindly...especially in these days. Don't listen to crazytards here on GLP. Your parents have your best interest at heart. They have a vested interest in making sure their kids are loved and safe. Quoting: abeliever These GLP sheeple could careless about you. God bless you! You're a fucking idiot. "follow god blindly" you really can't get any fucking dumber than that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1610534 United States 09/08/2012 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I grew up in a Mormon family, and if ANYTHING is undoctrinal, they try to force me to shut it out without question. My father even states that I need to learn to follow him blindly without any question. That he doesn't need to give me a reason. AND he says that it will help me follow god. WTF!? He is making himself to be a god. Anything I say that he doesn't like, he automatically rejects it, throws scriptures at me, and tells me that I need to follow god blindly... Quoting: TheSeventhSeal98 Pardon my french, but... BULL-MOTHER-FUCKING SHIT! What a bad son you are! You need to feel guilty about how bad you are, but I'll bet you don't. That's because you need purification. I'll bet if you take a bunch of ExLax you'll feel guilty then! Spend a few hours on the toilet, and you'll finally understand why your father is so upset with you! Pray for understanding, and eat ExLax, and I promise you, things will finally become clear. Just make sure you drink a lot of water first. |
jadksn User ID: 22267702 United States 09/09/2012 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally think forcing any religious ideas down a child's throat is akin to child abuse. Maybe not legally, but morally. Quoting: jadksn 22267702 Why not just tell them that you have no interest in going on with their churchgoings, but that you will still love them unconditionally? Can they make you go to church or read scriptures? Because when my sister did that, they kicked her out and never spoke to her again. She was only 16. If that's how easily they will write off their own kin, it's time for you to leave. This madness won't ever end for you until you leave. I can't fathom how someone could do that to their own child. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12083851 United States 09/09/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP listen to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851 I was once like many and had blind faith. I was what I considered a auto pilot christian. Believing in Christ just because as a in case measure asking Christ for help and to continue sinning without really trying to make a change. But I tell you the truth something happened one day to me and God gave me personal divine truth. To let me know my faith is without a doubt 100 % true and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is our savior. Trust in no truth....not one..... other then Jesus Christ and I promise you. You will one day have your own truth shown to you. I'm not telling you this because I want your money. I'm not telling you this because I want you to start attending church. I'm not telling you this because I'm better then you. No in fact I am a sinner and no better then you. I'm just simply telling you this because Jesus Christ is the truth. I hope you find him and take care. OP listen to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12083851 I was once like many and had blind faith. I was what I considered a auto pilot christian. Believing in Christ just because as a in case measure asking Christ for help and to continue sinning without really trying to make a change. But, um, I'm asking you to have blind faith! just believe in Jesus! don't listen to him. My truth is greater then any truth. For since I believed with blind faith with all my heart and soul. I was shown in broad day light Jesus Christ in the flesh. No dream nor hallucination. And what bothered me was about that he was so serious when looking at me. Not a smile nor a hand reaching out for me and now I know the reason why. But I have no choice now for remaining in blind faith that I once had and just using Christ as a just in case card without trying to make changes in my life. Jesus Christ wants everyone to know him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23464030 Finland 09/09/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I grew up in a Mormon family, and if ANYTHING is undoctrinal, they try to force me to shut it out without question. My father even states that I need to learn to follow him blindly without any question. That he doesn't need to give me a reason. AND he says that it will help me follow god. WTF!? He is making himself to be a god. Anything I say that he doesn't like, he automatically rejects it, throws scriptures at me, and tells me that I need to follow god blindly... Quoting: TheSeventhSeal98 Pardon my french, but... BULL-MOTHER-FUCKING SHIT! You could watch videos where Mormon church is revealed. But on a public access, not with your own computer, or at home. Mormon church, it's lower parts of the pyramid illuminati structure, so yes - you should be blind follower! LOL But I recommend patience, and kindness when dealing with the blind (authority figures) - and agree to disagree - and forgive them psychic bullies, religious and all sorts! Especially when they're kin, friends. Btw, you do not need religions to open the broadband to your maker. Trust the books that you can understand and feel to be most true, and yet, also trust your own senses and conscience. The kingdom, it's within your heart, dormant or not. But always there available, should you choose so. All it takes, is, knowledge, will, open mind, goodwill, honesty, and feelgood with ideas, virtues and behaviour and ethics that you understand and feel are truest to your own heart. One cannot follow others (human beings) unless you feel at home with them, and even then, the true way is to lead, to be the shepherd and not the sheep. |
Life and Love User ID: 18613580 United States 09/09/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One cannot follow others (human beings) unless you feel at home with them, and even then, the true way is to lead, to be the shepherd and not the sheep. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23464030 This is very true. And the best way to lead the flock is to go stand where you want the flock to be and then wait for them to show up. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Sharing User ID: 23436650 Australia 09/10/2012 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be learned is a good thing for a Christian. We are to not be ignorant. We are to just not LOVE knowledge/learning more than Him. Because some people just get so much into head knowledge and being fallen humans are easily lead astray if Jesus is not first in their life. We need God's guidance and Him to be first. But after He is first we are to be as wise and learned as we possibly can be. Relationship with Jesus first and always though because some information presented is lies and false and it is only through knowing Jesus in a personal relationship like you would a friend that we can be shown how and why this is (i.e think of some communist countries and what they hide from the masses). Jesus will also open your eyes to information that is more important than other information. And show you more truths than the world can.... Some verses.... Proverbs 1:5 Let the wise hear and increase in learning, and the one who understands obtain guidance, Proverbs 18:15 An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge. Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction. Matthew (10:16) Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. I believe it was Christian women who started the first schools in America.... it is many Christians who start schools through missionary work through out the world today. Learning and education is important for a Christian. You should be encouraged to ask questions regarding the bible and or the world and correct truthful answers found and given. I am sorry your dad is treating you this way. I hope that one day you will be able to be free and know what is is to be able to question freely and learn. But I also hope and pray that you will one day know the love of Jesus for you and His encouragement for you to question and know the world around you. To know truth. Yes it is good to trust Jesus but that trust is earned as we get to know Jesus. He welcomes all your questions and I hope that you will let Him share the answers with you through a relationship with Him. You can always be open, honest and real with Him. Even if you are angry or think what you are asking is disrespectful - to God He loves us regardless and would rather us be real and ask the questions of our hearts and lay down in front of Him the feelings, emotions and thoughts we have. To not hide them and stuff them away in some corner. Let Jesus give you the answers - seek them from Him personally... that is way better than having them second hand anyway! Last Edited by Sharing on 09/10/2012 06:27 AM |