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Jupiter's orbit is still NOT "off"

 
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dr faggot more like it
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Bpeirce2 on youtube has released another video claiming that Jupiter's orbit is being perturbed by "Nibiru" as evidenced by SOHO images. He once again fails (or refuses) to use the background stars in the SOHO images to compare Jupiter's detected position to its predicted position. As you can see here, once you orient the images properly relative to the background stars you can see there's nothing wrong with its position, even when predicting it using century+ old data:

Thanks for the heads-up TBar!
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You know. I don't think you're lying or believe that you're lying. IN fact, I tend to believe you more so than all the other information that came before you, however... I have had dreams.. dreams which are too odd and out worldly to attribute to a figment of my imagination... dreams shared by people half a world away.. so i wonder... you know what i mean?
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I have dreams of princess Diana licking my ball sack, just like thousands of others have world wide, doesnt mean it ever happend or ever will.
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dr faggot more like it
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Its amazing that even when real evidence is laid out that the tards still think its real. Mind you its a well known fact that when someone knows that what the believe in is proved wrong they lash out with insults and violence, its called embarrasment.
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Wow Astro you seem to get alot of abuse, still nice to know Jupiter is where it was meant to be, keep up the stellar work.
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Astromut your like a freaking broken record, get over it and move onto something else to debunk, and why do you keep changing your name?
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What?

What was wrong with Jupiter and its orbit, first I have heard of it...
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No doom? Oh what the fu#$#...!!!
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Astomut, you ignorant slut...get a fucking life. Your science will be 50% inaccurate in 100 years. Theories change constantly. No one owns the truth, you little bitch.
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Actually I do know the truth, which is why the century old data I used correctly predicted Jupiter's position, rather than being "50% inaccurate" lol. Sounds to me like you can't handle the truth.
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Astro has been told before that it is not a Brown dwarf that will intersect the planets orbit and cause a pole shift but a comet cluster.
One that has a 3600 year orbit.
The dwarf star does exist but will come no closer than the orbit of the outer planet.
Will appear in the region of the Magelinic cloud first.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539517


Look I've been thinking about the video from Australia, that was posted on glp around (8/8/12). You could definitely see planets, What if this "Rogue Planet", or "Rogue Brown Dwarf Star", were actually a normal solar system like ours?

Something's there, and TPTB definitely want to cover it up and scare the hell out of us with DOOM, I mean that's all they have been constantly doing since Y2K.

So here's a theory I have, check it out:

Our solar system in universal proportions, is about the size of an atom on a universal scale, whereas our galaxy, is to compare with a complex molecule. Now in order for our galaxy to stay put and hold it's unity,it has to have counter-balances and weights, to create a balance, to hold it's form, and part of this force that holds it together is movement, centrifical force, which in thus creates gravity A.

Our solar systems rotates around the galaxy once every 275 million years, creating our solar system a seasonal variation, which quite possibly even helps to create our Ice Ages, though it seems that over the last 2 million years our Ice Ages have been a lot more frequent than that of nature (manipulation of climate ????????).

So as our solar system rotates around the galaxy, it should meet "sister" solar systems, rotating around the galaxy the opposite direction as us. Thus creating a counter-balance, which helps hold the galaxy together.

13,000 to 26,000 years would be a miniscule amount of time compared to 275 million years, instead of this Nibiru phenomena of the past, being a Destroyer or a Abaddon, we might wanna realize that the stories of the past that we have read, might not be the same object, but instead a neighbor, a"sister" solar system.

What if what we are truly experiencing (celestially) was nothing more than a mergeance of a "sister" solar system? What if there were life and advanced civilizations within this "sister" solar system?

What if all this Nibiru doom, was gonna be an excuse to wipe out our civilization , before we get a chance to say "Hi!" to a possibly advanced civilization?

I mean could the Powers that Be, work for different masters than the human race?

Could the human race, being fooled by superstitions, religions , and quite possibly ELF mind control and physical radiation bombardment of harmful ELF waves,might stand a chance of freeing itself (with some help froma a "sister" solar system) of it's million year or more, chains, that could be held, quite possibly by some hostile extraterrestrials?

Maybe we might wanna take another look at the celestial phenomena, and some of it's newly discovered anomalies, it might be our ticket off of this prison.

Just food for thought!
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Astro has been told before that it is not a Brown dwarf that will intersect the planets orbit and cause a pole shift but a comet cluster.
One that has a 3600 year orbit.
The dwarf star does exist but will come no closer than the orbit of the outer planet.
Will appear in the region of the Magelinic cloud first.
Bruce
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539517


Look I've been thinking about the video from Australia, that was posted on glp around (8/8/12). You could definitely see planets, What if this "Rogue Planet", or "Rogue Brown Dwarf Star", were actually a normal solar system like ours?
 Quoting: THE BAT 18274772


You mean the neddy Flanders videos that showed Venus, Jupiter, and aldebaran?
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Shut the fuck up with your bogus nibiru debunking already. Were tired of hearing it.
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clappa

He is a shill, ignore his sorry ass.
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Fuck head scammers just want youtube views and beg for money off people they should be jailed.
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Wow Astro you seem to get alot of abuse, still nice to know Jupiter is where it was meant to be, keep up the stellar work.
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Thanks! The truth is painful to those who would rather believe a lie. They know deep down that they're wrong but they just can't bring themselves to admit it, even to themselves. Instead they just expand the conspiracy to include the person who disproved it and lash out in anger as so many are doing in this thread.
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Couple of points Astro:

1-They are renumbering airport runways, maybe the pole has moved.

BUT

2-Sun arrives early in Artic, So really the Earth has moved!

Why can't Jupiter have moved??????
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Id say more then likely it is the sun causing all the planets to tilt wildly.the orbits wont ever be off , other then you own line of sight from earth.Same way the earth tilting has pulled the moon out of wack.
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I do not believe Nibiru is Jupiter, you have "debunked" few with little data I might add. I would also like to point out something that someone else stated which is your level of determination in disproving Nibiru.

It is indeed suspect of shill behaviour, with the amount of evidence out their that is constantly building this "debunk" seems almost petty.

I hope you don't find this offensive as i'm sure many others will but as soon as you have more evidence than there already is to the contrary, I will regard you legitimate.

Until then, keep trying....
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Id say more then likely it is the sun causing all the planets to tilt wildly.the orbits wont ever be off , other then you own line of sight from earth.Same way the earth tilting has pulled the moon out of wack.
 Quoting: DERP


THIS.

But could there be something else causing the poles of the planets to re-orientate?

Is it possible something in Space has a very large magnetic attraction causing this?

Sure its possible!
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Shut the fuck up with your bogus nibiru debunking already. Were tired of hearing it.
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Bogus?

YOU ignorant dumb fucks are the bogus ones.

I've NEVER seen any of you you give a PROPER observation.

SOHO is not designed to give those in the first place.

You need to take observations with a transit telescope to give ACCURATE positions.

I doubt if you know what that is or how to use one.

Otherwise observations (such as according to a tree in your yard) are pretty much FUCKING USELESS!

Now STFU!!
"Everybody lies."
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Couple of points Astro:

1-They are renumbering airport runways, maybe the pole has moved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23373054

That's because of a gradual shift of the magnetic pole, not the physical axis of rotation.
BUT

2-Sun arrives early in Artic, So really the Earth has moved!
 Quoting: AC

Nope. That was caused by an abnormally high amount of atmospheric refraction known as Novaya Zemlya. It wasn't even an extreme example of that phenomenon. Historically it has caused the sun to appear to rise prematurely from polar locations by as much as two weeks, even consistently throughout the period of time when it occurs. Cold arctic air is capable of being steady enough to produce abnormal levels of atmospheric refraction not seen from non-polar locations.

"In the next place, Gerrit de Veer states explicitly that he and two of his companions "saw the edge of the sun" on the 24th of January, and that on the 27th of that month they "all went forth and saw the sunne in his full round-nesse a little above the horizon"; and again, that on 31st they "went out and saw the sunne shine cleare"; and lastly, on the 8th of February, they "saw the sun rise south-east, and went down south south-west." On the intervening days, the weather being cloudy or otherwise unfavorable, they had no opportunity of observing the sun."

page cliii of "The three voyages of William Barentz to the Arctic regions"

At de Veer's location, 75 degrees 45 minutes north latitude, the sun's upper edge wasn't even supposed to be seen until February 9th. This was over 400 years ago.

Our axis of rotation did not change to cause this, and the sun's true position in the sky relative to the stars is also normal:
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Thread: The sun is still right where it should be in the sky! *Update on page 2 for 12-19-12
Why can't Jupiter have moved??????
 Quoting: AC

It is right where it should be, that's the whole point of the video. There's no question about it.
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Good job Astronaut. :)
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I do not believe Nibiru is Jupiter, you have "debunked" few with little data I might add.
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I debunked them with the very data that they claimed showed evidence of Nibiru. The claim was false. The last time this guy made this claim, there were multiple threads here supporting it shortly thereafter, I'm just being proactive.
I would also like to point out something that someone else stated which is your level of determination in disproving Nibiru.
 Quoting: AC

Metadiscussion. Irrelevant.
It is indeed suspect of shill behaviour,
 Quoting: AC

Ad hominem.
with the amount of evidence out their that is constantly building this "debunk" seems almost petty.
 Quoting: AC

Excuse me, but the very data that was claimed to show it was real actually shows it to be false. That isn't "petty," in fact it's brilliant.
I hope you don't find this offensive as i'm sure many others will but as soon as you have more evidence than there already is to the contrary, I will regard you legitimate.

Until then, keep trying....
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The goalpost is not whether or not you personally believe me, sorry. I really don't care what you personally believe, I know for a fact that you are wrong.
Thread: Nibiru Analysis *Jupiter analysis on page 20*
Thread: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
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Same way the earth tilting has pulled the moon out of wack.
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It hasn't.
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In a universe where everything is moving, Jupiters orbit was never "on" either.

If I am told the orbital characterisitcs of our planets never change, I will say that is complete BS. Though i do not believe Jupiter is on a long walk out of place either.



Mmmm, I debunked Dr. Astro....lol


Just saying, shit changes...it doesn't stay the same.
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In a universe where everything is moving, Jupiters orbit was never "on" either.

If I am told the orbital characterisitcs of our planets never change, I will say that is complete BS.



Mmmm, I debunked Dr. Astro....lol
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Wow, epic fail. I never said the mean orbital elements never change, in fact I specifically said I computed them specifically for the epochs of the observations. The claim was that the orbit was "off" compared to the expected orbit based on the known planets. That is false, and that is what I proved.
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Just saying, shit changes...it doesn't stay the same.
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Just saying, I computed the orbit from Hill's data specifically for both observation epochs, May 10th 2000 and May 11th 2012. Jupiter's right where it should be based on the known planets of the solar system.
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Nope. That was caused by an abnormally high amount of atmospheric refraction known as Novaya Zemlya.
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And your proof is??? Or you think the doctors doesn't need to prove anything, because throwing big words is enough?
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Sure; whatever it makes it possible for you to sleep at night knowing the truth, Dr. Astro, that Planet X is very real and approaching.

It is NOT Obama who is going to announce the presence of Planet X: It is NASA!

Then what will happen to Astromut? Have to get a real job?
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Nope. That was caused by an abnormally high amount of atmospheric refraction known as Novaya Zemlya.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


And your proof is???
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The fact that the sun is right where it should be in the sky, our axis of rotation is fixed to within an arcsecond, and Novaya Zemlya is a known cause of this phenomenon.
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