Q&A Answers about Freemasonry - from a real mason

You haven't heard that its on a "need to know" from any real mason. Its quite public. See thats the thing about non-masons, you imagine there is some grand hierarchy in Freemasonry and there isn't. Its designed 100% to be the opposite.

The Illuminati isn't real, unless you mean the Bavarian Illuminati, which was dispatched by the Bavarian government.

Conspiracy theorists often imagine they know more about Freemasonry than freemasons, which is hilarious if you think about it. But thats why your a conspiracy theorist - you are gullible and will believe anything as long as you think you have some sort of access to knowledge that the rest of us don't Your sources are bullshit.

Wait a minute!!!!

1300 AD???

Like I said, at the same timeframe as the Templars were outlawed.

Why do masons worship satan?

are the big secrets just along the lines of sacred geometry,and how to reach spiritual awareness through kundalini?

I think you missed my question, because you answered all of the other ones.

The degrees of FM were written by Templars and Jesuits according to FM historian Albert Mackey.

This predates 1717. The mother lodge of London officially formed in 1717 after King James brought FM to England in 1600.

Timeline of Freemasonry
[link to www.robertlomas.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
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The stone mason guilds is a) a cover story to bury the Templarism b) served the Templars in constructing the Cathedrals.

The Templars are found in the York Rite, and the youth group is named after the once Templar Grand Master, DeMolay. The Templars admit they are in FM.
[link to www.knightstemplar.org]

They consider the Pope is head of Christendom.

They have a large club encircling the world so they can get their rewards here on earth,

I'll wait for my reward

God rules the Earth and the laws of nature,
Satan rules the world and the laws of man

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Actually, Freemasonry is NOTORIOUS for its closed-shop secrecy.

I've seen members on T.V. saying that "yes, we do have secrets, it's not uncommon for an organization to maintain secrecy. Corporations keep things secret to maintain an edge on their business rivals, so why can't we?"

As for conspiracy theorist, I can assure you that I am not, hence what I say about a good yarn will attract the common herd far more effectively than the un-sexy truth anyday.

And I love it when people who know FUCK ALL about the Illuminati try to tell me about them, then I know that THEY are peddling

WRONG!

That's not what George Washington said. His letter about the Illuminati was after they had been banned in Germany. The Jacobins were mentioned in the same breath. This is Templars and Jesuits, one and the same. The Jesuits were banned at the time, from 1773 to 1814. After 1790 founding of Washington Dc all was made new with the Jesuits. Washington DC is located in the once Catholic colony.

Except that freemasonry is known to have existed at least 150 years before that date, 1300AD, just not by that name, but they were doing the same thing (and were NOT KNIGHTS TEMPLARS) as early as 1100AD

Your quoting a known hoax.

You guys will believe anything, including proven historical hoaxes.

100% correct! Just because the reality doesn't match what you wish were true...doesn't change reality.

Just goes to show your interested in the truth and just want to believe the bullshit you've been fed.

The secrecy in freemasonry has to do with our passwords and grips, not our history.

They don't, conspiracy theorists just wish we did.

And I can assure you OP, me & this guy are not in kahoots to win an argument,
but gee, doesn't it sound like what I'm saying?

I couldn't care less if you are FM or just another wanker here at GLP, you started the thread to talk about FM & so I thought I'd post what I have been told.

And the story of the Jesuits is a very inspirational one, another secondary vehicle of the Illuminati. They created a futuristic version of humanity in South America before it was crushed, again, by- you know who!!

The Nazis were formed out of the Teutonic Knights at their Thule Society - founded by a Freemason. The Teutonic Knights are the German branch of the Templars. Some FM may have been arrested for not joining the Nazi Party like the rest, who filled the top ranks. The Nazis were funded & supported by Freemasons such as Henry Ford and George Bush's granddaddy Prescott. The Reich Bank was ran by a Freemason Horace Schacht.

Nope, GW letter at the Library of Congress look it up.

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well, like the Illuminati say: "history is written by the victors," which means that history is re-written by the current powers that be.

So even if you, I, or your next door neighbors children read a history book, we would all be taking in 'the bullshit we have been fed.'

We are only as informed as our source of information. I trust mine implicitly. Just because you WANT me to be deluded & mis-informed (to win this becoming pathetic argument) doesn't make it so.

why are you ignoring my question?

Like I also said, & this filled in the gaps for me.
Freemasonry was created (by fucking whoever) with the most noble of intentions, but was infiltrated by the WASP scum who run it to this day.

Where are you OP??

How about that?

OP comes here to teach people, but gets an education about his own organization

What do you think about the book of abramelin?

So much disinformation, where to begin? First off Albert Mackey was related the MYTHS of our origins never stated that the degrees were written by Templars and Jesuits. Here are the facts:

"But we’ve created another myth: our Templar heritage. I hesitate to broach the subject as it is controversial with many freemasons convinced that the Templars took refuge in Scotland and either created or entered Freemasonry to hide their own practices and beliefs. John Robinson’s Born in Blood was one of the first to popularize this notion to a modern audience. Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas, who brought us The Hiram Key, and others, have demonstrated themselves to be excellent hucksters but woefully deficient as historians..."
[link to freemasonry.bcy.ca]

Obviously FM preades 1717, as I stated previously. Your links are also bogus - Robert Lomas has been debunked again and again and is NOT an authoritative author on FM. None of the links to the encyclopedia of freemasonry support what you stated. Did you even bother to read them? Just because there is a entry on the Jesuits doesn't mean they have any hand in creating/controlling freemasonry.

I can't believe how much disinformation this one post has. You literally just made shit up, googled, and linked without reading. The KNIGHTS TEMPLARS YOU LINKED TO ARE A MASONIC GROUP WHO ADMIT THEY HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THE HISTORICAL KNIGHTS TEMPLARS, IT SAYS SO ON THE SAME PAGE YOU LINKED YOU IDIOT:

"THERE IS NO PROOF OF DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ANCIENT ORDER AND THE MODERN ORDER KNOWN TO DAY AS THE KNIGHTS TEMPLAR."

THEY EVEN HAVE IT IN BOLD AND IN CALL CAPS, RETARDS
[link to www.knightstemplar.org]

you won't answer my question because you don't know anything real.

only handshakes and grips. Yeah, I bet you know grips.

I cannot believe how people can be in such denial of reality. The Nazis treated Freemasons as jewish people, and they were put in concentration camps as jewish people.

[link to www.ushmm.org]

Sorry I've been busy debunking you, what other question do you have that I can debunk you on?

Yes thats right, the only masonic secrets are the handshakes and grips. But they aren't really secret, they've been published since 1725. We won't tell you what they are because we men of our word, but we don't care if you google them. Do you think you ra big boy because you know the handshakes and grips? Congrats, any 5 year old with google can find them.

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No the Illuminati don't say that because its a fictional conspiracy construct. A group you use to explain a complex world because you don't like the reality that this world is chaotic and the truth is no one is pulling the strings.

Its the greatest irony on GLP: there are so many idiots like you whose only goal in life is to reinforce the bullshit you wish were true. Here is a real, 100% legitimate freemaosn telling you the truth and you are so blinded by your desire to believe myths that you will never accept the genuine article.

Debunking me? I only asked about sacred geometry and kundalini. And I'm not a guy, I'm a female.