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how do you get rid of a ghost/Spirit ?

 
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You still haven't answered my question about the freedom to feel sad, angry, or hateful.
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I almost think, the underlying question, that you may have, is being able to still think and feel as you please? If so, from what I gather, you will not be a robot. You will still be you. Ultimately God, wants you to have freewill, and love him freely. I never heard, of God restricting certain emotions from heaven.

I will however say, again from what I gather, God, knows what's in your heart and your deepest desires. And he will fullfill these desires, all to make you happy. If your heart's deepest desires are fullfilled, it would probably be difficult to genuinely be hateful, angry, etc.
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I don't want to be happy for eternity. I couldn't imagine the hills without the valleys. Besides, I'm often at my happiest when I'm unhappy.
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The underlying and true emotion, may be your happy when your meditative, reflective, introspective. These aren't necessarily 'happy' states, but there's a inner deep peace, and related positive emotions that can come from these states.
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"Happy" is just the best way I can describe it. But it feels greater than any actual happiness I've had. When it's gray and rainy out, and I say "fuck it, no one likes me and I don't like myself" I find this delightful peace.
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I almost think, the underlying question, that you may have, is being able to still think and feel as you please? If so, from what I gather, you will not be a robot. You will still be you. Ultimately God, wants you to have freewill, and love him freely. I never heard, of God restricting certain emotions from heaven.

I will however say, again from what I gather, God, knows what's in your heart and your deepest desires. And he will fullfill these desires, all to make you happy. If your heart's deepest desires are fullfilled, it would probably be difficult to genuinely be hateful, angry, etc.
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I don't want to be happy for eternity. I couldn't imagine the hills without the valleys. Besides, I'm often at my happiest when I'm unhappy.
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The underlying and true emotion, may be your happy when your meditative, reflective, introspective. These aren't necessarily 'happy' states, but there's a inner deep peace, and related positive emotions that can come from these states.
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"Happy" is just the best way I can describe it. But it feels greater than any actual happiness I've had. When it's gray and rainy out, and I say "fuck it, no one likes me and I don't like myself" I find this delightful peace.
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I really enjoy the rain as well. Again, there will be a variety of locations, types of environment in heaven. So I know, you'll love it. It's not just all clouds, as many believe.
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I don't want to be happy for eternity. I couldn't imagine the hills without the valleys. Besides, I'm often at my happiest when I'm unhappy.
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The underlying and true emotion, may be your happy when your meditative, reflective, introspective. These aren't necessarily 'happy' states, but there's a inner deep peace, and related positive emotions that can come from these states.
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"Happy" is just the best way I can describe it. But it feels greater than any actual happiness I've had. When it's gray and rainy out, and I say "fuck it, no one likes me and I don't like myself" I find this delightful peace.
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I really enjoy the rain as well. Again, there will be a variety of locations, types of environment in heaven. So I know, you'll love it. It's not just all clouds, as many believe.
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Do you also enjoy feelings of self loathing and detachment from your fellow man?

Also like I said, with my love of abandoned buildings, my "mansion" would just be an eyesore in heaven.

Heaven doesn't want me, so I probably don't want it.
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[link to i48.tinypic.com]

To most they would turn their nose up at a place like that picture. Even without being superstitious or religious or anything, places like that picture feel like sacred holy ground to me.
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The underlying and true emotion, may be your happy when your meditative, reflective, introspective. These aren't necessarily 'happy' states, but there's a inner deep peace, and related positive emotions that can come from these states.
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"Happy" is just the best way I can describe it. But it feels greater than any actual happiness I've had. When it's gray and rainy out, and I say "fuck it, no one likes me and I don't like myself" I find this delightful peace.
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I really enjoy the rain as well. Again, there will be a variety of locations, types of environment in heaven. So I know, you'll love it. It's not just all clouds, as many believe.
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Do you also enjoy feelings of self loathing and detachment from your fellow man?

Also like I said, with my love of abandoned buildings, my "mansion" would just be an eyesore in heaven.

Heaven doesn't want me, so I probably don't want it.
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I think everyone occasionally likes time alone. Regarding the abandoned building, and your mansion being an eyesore. Again, from what I gather, heaven is a supernatural place. You're mansion would probably wouldn't be an eyesore, for two possible reasons.

We can't think in terms of Earth. By this I mean, you could be in a location, look around and see an empty space in a park. If you walk towards this space, and new realm, could immediately then appear. So your mansion, may be hidden, or it could be in a location, that couldn't been seen by others. Who knows, there may be others that too like abandoned buildings, and really enjoy the look of your mansion. Regardless, I'm sure, God, will make sure it's not an eyesore to others, and yet at the same time, you will have a mansion, that you desire.
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[link to i48.tinypic.com]

To most they would turn their nose up at a place like that picture. Even without being superstitious or religious or anything, places like that picture feel like sacred holy ground to me.
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There's something sacred and ancient about this. In general, ruins, evoke this feeling. So I understand you.
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When it comes down to it though, I don't think heaven is for everyone. That's why god, if such a being exists, created two places.
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When it comes down to it though, I don't think heaven is for everyone. That's why god, if such a being exists, created two places.
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I would say this is due to lack of knowledge of both locations. If people knew for certain, it would be an easy choice.
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When it comes down to it though, I don't think heaven is for everyone. That's why god, if such a being exists, created two places.
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I would say this is due to lack of knowledge of both locations. If people knew for certain, it would be an easy choice.
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What I mean is that not everyone's personalities mesh with the concept of heaven. I'm closer to the drug dealers, murderers, and lawyers than I am to a saint.
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When it comes down to it though, I don't think heaven is for everyone. That's why god, if such a being exists, created two places.
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I would say this is due to lack of knowledge of both locations. If people knew for certain, it would be an easy choice.
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What I mean is that not everyone's personalities mesh with the concept of heaven. I'm closer to the drug dealers, murderers, and lawyers than I am to a saint.
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I'm no saint either. I was once in jail, for committing for violent felonies. Attacked cops with my hands, due to my rage and not being in a proper state of mind.

Even murderers, if they truly knew of hell, would not want to go there.
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There is a difference between ghost and spirit.

Ghosts are the spirits of passed on humans who are 'trapped' on this plane in spirit form. All other spirits come from the spirit realm and have different intentions.

Human Ghosts can be placated once whatever it is that is holding them back from crossing over.

Understand, exorcising a human spirit from your house is akin to murder - as a ghost has nothing place to go and you are basically obliterating it when you 'cast' it out.

It goes into oblivion, not into the next world/spirit realm/whatever lies beyond the veil of life and death.

Ghosts do get angry if they are ignored or feel slighted by human presence. In order to deal with that you need to work on figuring out what their issue is.

Usually the ghosts only appears to people who can 'help' it achieve its goal. If you can't help it, it won't appear to you.

Spirits (non-human dead) will appear to anyone and do things depending on its intent.

You need to get a real history for the house. If there was someone who died a violent or sudden unexpected death (from sickness, accident - not necessarily murder) most likely that is the spirit you are dealing with and you need to talk to that spirit (like you would a human being) and tell it that its life is over, that it died whenever - If you can get a name of the deceased, use the name. If you get an exact date and cause, explain.

If it is a malevolent spirit it may play at being a ghost and try to 'friend' you in a spirit sense. It may even try to pretend to be a helping spirit.

If it is a malevolent spirit, you need to talk to a priest, cleric, witch - someone who has had real experience with exorcism. The Catholic Church is the best because they do not charge and they actually do test other theories BEFORE storming in and exorcising.

Most so called exorcists come in, do their little routine which more often than not only pissed off the spirit, then charge you money and go home.
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here is how it is done OP:


next time this entity is bothering you, simply say "In th name of the Lord Jesus Christ I demand to know your name", might have to repeat it thrice


they will never do this, knowing their name means they can be told to get hence, instead they leave voluntarily
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after about 2 years of random knocking,odd cigar odor coming and going (non-smoker) electric breakers getting flipped on and off and a vision of a black cloked figure... tonight is the final straw. i've had it. the ghost actually kicked over my dog's water bowl... wtf !

aside from using a catholic priest to bless my house what are my options ?
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Well if you really need to get rid of a ghost; <rolls eyes>, oh, I guess I will tell ya. Man, this is so difficult. I'm tellin' my bro that I gotta tell this chick on-line how to get rid of the ghost. So anyways, take the sheet and throw it in the washer, hot water and some tide detergent.
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after about 2 years of random knocking,odd cigar odor coming and going (non-smoker) electric breakers getting flipped on and off and a vision of a black cloked figure... tonight is the final straw. i've had it. the ghost actually kicked over my dog's water bowl... wtf !

aside from using a catholic priest to bless my house what are my options ?
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Well if you really need to get rid of a ghost; <rolls eyes>, oh, I guess I will tell ya. Man, this is so difficult. I'm tellin' my bro that I gotta tell this chick on-line how to get rid of the ghost. So anyways, take the sheet and throw it in the washer, hot water and some tide detergent.
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Take the ghost out to a fancy dinner and run up a huge bar bill. Then split out the back door and leave the ghost with the check. It'll be stuck at the restaurant for months doing dishes.
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"And you can keep trying to get me to believe in crazy bullshit with no evidence all day, but it isn't going to work."

And if all it takes for you to believe something is for a science buffoon to say it;you're a gullible moron that can be led anywhere.See how that works?


"I know enough to stay away from colloidal silver and other bullshit placebos."

Because the main stream medical shills told you so of course lol.Is there a single thing you 'know' that you ever contemplated yourself;and didn't have spoon fed to you?

A full cure isn't a placebo chum,but keep telling yourself that if it helps your poor widdle feelings.


"I bet I would believe all kinds of crazy flat earth bullshit if I went on anecdotal evidence also eh?"

I'll bet you would even believe you evolved from a mushroom as long as a white coat told you so haha.


"Just watch the damn video to find out why you are so closed minded."

Sure..because obviously the best way to show me how closed minded I supposedly am;is to have the self proclaimed open minded atheist turn right around and judge my opinions entirely on his own pre conceived notions and clear bias.

Because thats not being hypocritical at all is it? :P
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"If you think that science is so horrendous, get off the computer. It is a product of science. Go hide in a cave and treat colds by bleeding yourself."

lol I love it when people use such pathetic defensive arguments.

It's on the same level as the brainwashed right wing contards that say 'you don't like it here..then get out'
when God forbid you say something negative (yet true) about their precious America.

just because science has brought technological advances doesn't equate with everything the mainstream shills say as being right.Dream on sonny.

By the way LOVED the extra butt hurt extra swipe you took at natural medicine there lol.You sound rather irritable..ooooo..but don't worry your mainstream sell out medical heroes have a chemical filled poison pill for that too.And best of all it can all yours for the low low price of 700$ a month :P

"Somewhere way down the evolutionary line humans shared an ancestor with mushrooms."

You: 'Let me do my fact checking really quick.Yep..a scientist said that was right...case closed.'

"If you watched (and understood) the video you would understand your hypocrisy."

Oh boy here we go again.
We all know it's only hypocrisy when it's someone with an opposite viewpoint.We all know that if atheist boy there on the video used the very same tactics as his opponents the fan boys would merely insist he was 'telling it like it is'.
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I'll take that "poison" over drinking root tea then subsequently dying.

And science has brought about things such as computers. What has your magic brought about?


And you have a better theory? Let me guess, more magic.

That was covered. You don't have to believe in something if there isn't evidence for it. Like all the stuff you believe in.
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"I'll take that "poison" over drinking root tea then subsequently dying."


Poor little guy.
The medical shills have got you terrified of trying anything they aren't personally peddling.Now gee...I wonder why they would do that? :P


This is incredibly ironic considering that you're whining about proven safe natural methods killing people.When your own precious white coats have withdrawn numerous 'medicines' they artificially created because they were causing deaths and dangerous side effects.

Evidence after the fact suggests they knew this all along,yet chose to squeeze the blood buck as far as they could before they were forced to withdraw it.



"And science has brought about things such as computers. What has your magic
brought about?"

It's healed people or eased their symptoms.Oh but I forgot you wouldn't know any of that because it's not in the weekly edition of medical shill digest.

Lol you're a funny guy.By your retarded logic I guess we should bend over for oppressive govts too as long as they give us some nice shiny things to play with eh?


"And you have a better theory? Let me guess, more magic."


Magic of course meaning anything you weren't told to believe in by the white coat messiahs amirite?

way to show that openmindness bro ;)


"That was covered. You don't have to believe in something if there isn't evidence for it. Like all the stuff you believe in."

Lets keep it up;I'm sure I'll stir up some brain activity in you yet.

So by your logic I should discount my own experiences,friends/familys story's,and my own private research because a scientist told me spirits aren't real?
You are the very definition of brain dead fella.I do hope you will keep posting and entertain me.
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"If you think that science is so horrendous, get off the computer. It is a product of science. Go hide in a cave and treat colds by bleeding yourself."

lol I love it when people use such pathetic defensive arguments.

It's on the same level as the brainwashed right wing contards that say 'you don't like it here..then get out'
when God forbid you say something negative (yet true) about their precious America.

just because science has brought technological advances doesn't equate with everything the mainstream shills say as being right.Dream on sonny.

By the way LOVED the extra butt hurt extra swipe you took at natural medicine there lol.You sound rather irritable..ooooo..but don't worry your mainstream sell out medical heroes have a chemical filled poison pill for that too.And best of all it can all yours for the low low price of 700$ a month :P

"Somewhere way down the evolutionary line humans shared an ancestor with mushrooms."

You: 'Let me do my fact checking really quick.Yep..a scientist said that was right...case closed.'

"If you watched (and understood) the video you would understand your hypocrisy."

Oh boy here we go again.
We all know it's only hypocrisy when it's someone with an opposite viewpoint.We all know that if atheist boy there on the video used the very same tactics as his opponents the fan boys would merely insist he was 'telling it like it is'.
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"I trust medical science over the claims of some hippies. To do anything else would put us back into the dark ages."

I'm pretty sure I've already told you that natural medicine and remedies go far beyond new age hippy methods.

I'm not sure why I have to keep telling you this over and over.Perhaps it is because your reading comprehension is nonexistent unless some academic intellectual is telling you what to believe in.

Or perhaps your delusion and brainwashing is so deep your mind just can't(or won't) comprehend what I am saying
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I'm not interested in that hippy homeopathic drivel. And don't kid yourself, it is all hippy drivel.
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Damn bro,if your ass was like your mind you couldn't remotely lodge a penny between your butt cheeks.

Simply deluding yourself that it's all 'hippy drivel' is so much easier than actually thinking for yourself isn't it?

You apparently feel scared to death if your scientist lord and saviors aren't telling what to do and think every moment of every day.

Calling complete and lasting natural cures placebo's just shows the intensity of your insanity
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Here is some hippy drivel right here: [link to parentables.howstuffworks.com]
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Lol sure sure fella.
I've taken the medical path before and their poison made me feel like absolute shit..a zombie.

I've now been managing my problems without medication..with natural remedies for about 5 yrs now.Uh oh.. how will your white coated biotches explain that one?

uh...uh..uh... a placebo?

LMAO!
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But again I'll state: If anyone has evidence for the existence of ghosts that rises above the anecdotal level I'm all ears.

I watch a lot of those "ghost investigation" shows, but only for entertainment purposes. I know they are pure fiction.
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In other words he won't believe it until his white coat idols put out a paper verifying the existence of God and spirits in a laboratory.

Use this guy for entertainment value only.He's far too dense and brainwashed to ever consider another opinion except what he's spoon fed by the scientific community
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This will explain why I think you are closed minded.


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This video is fucking retarded. This info can be used to prove the opposite point as well.
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The video can be used to prove magic. You have an odd point of view.
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No he's right...the same argument can be used for theists and paranormal believers alike.

You're merely a hypocrite with double standards that refuses to listen to contrary evidence to what the eggheads tell you.
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This is really long for a drop and run single post by OP thread.

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But again I'll state: If anyone has evidence for the existence of ghosts that rises above the anecdotal level I'm all ears.

I watch a lot of those "ghost investigation" shows, but only for entertainment purposes. I know they are pure fiction.
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If you really want evidence, read Dr. Scwartz 'he Afterlife Experiments : Breakthrough Scientific Evidence of Life After Death'.

Major caveat, if you read this book, one should also study demonology in depth.
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Demonology? Any other fairy tales on top of that?
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I won't believe in the existence of your brain until I see a cat scan.The evidence against you not having one is just too compelling
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Oh, but they do.
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There is no scientific evidence that they do. The evidence for the Easter Bunny is just as high.
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Hard core accepted scientific evidence? No. Eyewitness evidence? Yes. Multitudes have reported seeing or hearing or experiencing ghosts in some way. No one has reported seeing the Easter Bunny. Children on Easter don't count. You must truly loathe humanity to discount the reports of so many people. If you respect science as you (seem to) claim, such overwhelming eyewitness evidence, at the very least, requires more than your trite, scoffing Easter Bunny argument.

The "Easter Bunny and/or Santa Claus is just as legitimate" is a tired, worn out, irresponsible, lame, tedious and cliche argument used by atheists who can't come up with a more legitimate argument. You would be better served by just coming out with it and admitting you're a closed-minded cocksucker who can't see more than one foot in front of your face---and that you're happy that way. I don't hate you because you don't believe in ghosts (and God, no doubt). In fact I'm an agnostic. I won't arrogantly make a claim (as you do) without supporting evidence from either side. I hate you because you use ridiculous arguments to support your non-belief. That makes you both closed-minded and stupid. And yes, when non-belief is stated in the affirmative (there IS no God, there ARE no ghosts) then that, too, requires support. Don't believe me? Okay, then my question is how do you KNOW there are no ghosts and no God? See that? You've now been asked to support your claim. I want to see your evidence. "I can't see it" isn't evidence. Surely even you are smart enough (barely) to understand that?

Maybe not.
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You must truly loathe children to discount their reports of the Easter Bunny. You must be very closed-minded and stupid.
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This has always been a lame ass atheist argument;and it's even more pathetic sounding the older I get.

First of all duh..we know kids have active imaginations..we're not retarded.And secondly there are some very smart and mature people from all walks of life that have experienced God and the paranormal before.Intelligence is no factor in people hearing/seeing the same things when paranormal events start.

And secondly just because science can't prove something sure as hell doesn't mean it doesn't exist.Unless you're actually delusional and arrogant enough to think mortal men of science can understand everything about the universe and everything in it.Does it scare you so badly to think there might be something out there your white coat saviors can't explain sweetheart.Does the thought of being at the mercy of higher forces than you scare you that much?
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Start with Dr. Schwartz book. But I doubt you'll even read this.
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I might read it. I can't promise I'll do it with a straight face though.
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Is his name and credentials funny?

Schwartz received his PhD from Harvard University and was a professor of psychiatry and psychology at Yale University as well as Director of the Yale Psychophysiology Center and co-director of the Yale Behavioral Medicine Clinic from 1976-1988. He is the Director of the Laboratory for Advances in Consciousness and Health (LACH, formerly the Human Energy Systems Laboratory) in the Department of Psychology at the University of Arizona
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No, the concept is funny. I really don't care about his credentials.
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The delusion thickens...

Now this chump refuses to even believe scientific credentials unless they support his current pre conceived notions.He is a controlled mind slave condemned to spiritual blindness
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"If you think that science is so horrendous, get off the computer. It is a product of science. Go hide in a cave and treat colds by bleeding yourself."

lol I love it when people use such pathetic defensive arguments.

It's on the same level as the brainwashed right wing contards that say 'you don't like it here..then get out'
when God forbid you say something negative (yet true) about their precious America.

just because science has brought technological advances doesn't equate with everything the mainstream shills say as being right.Dream on sonny.

By the way LOVED the extra butt hurt extra swipe you took at natural medicine there lol.You sound rather irritable..ooooo..but don't worry your mainstream sell out medical heroes have a chemical filled poison pill for that too.And best of all it can all yours for the low low price of 700$ a month :P

"Somewhere way down the evolutionary line humans shared an ancestor with mushrooms."

You: 'Let me do my fact checking really quick.Yep..a scientist said that was right...case closed.'

"If you watched (and understood) the video you would understand your hypocrisy."

Oh boy here we go again.
We all know it's only hypocrisy when it's someone with an opposite viewpoint.We all know that if atheist boy there on the video used the very same tactics as his opponents the fan boys would merely insist he was 'telling it like it is'.
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I'll take that "poison" over drinking root tea then subsequently dying.

And science has brought about things such as computers. What has your magic brought about?


And you have a better theory? Let me guess, more magic.

That was covered. You don't have to believe in something if there isn't evidence for it. Like all the stuff you believe in.
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"I'll take that "poison" over drinking root tea then subsequently dying."


Poor little guy.
The medical shills have got you terrified of trying anything they aren't personally peddling.Now gee...I wonder why they would do that? :P


This is incredibly ironic considering that you're whining about proven safe natural methods killing people.When your own precious white coats have withdrawn numerous 'medicines' they artificially created because they were causing deaths and dangerous side effects.

Evidence after the fact suggests they knew this all along,yet chose to squeeze the blood buck as far as they could before they were forced to withdraw it.



"And science has brought about things such as computers. What has your magic
brought about?"

It's healed people or eased their symptoms.Oh but I forgot you wouldn't know any of that because it's not in the weekly edition of medical shill digest.

Lol you're a funny guy.By your retarded logic I guess we should bend over for oppressive govts too as long as they give us some nice shiny things to play with eh?


"And you have a better theory? Let me guess, more magic."


Magic of course meaning anything you weren't told to believe in by the white coat messiahs amirite?

way to show that openmindness bro ;)


"That was covered. You don't have to believe in something if there isn't evidence for it. Like all the stuff you believe in."

Lets keep it up;I'm sure I'll stir up some brain activity in you yet.

So by your logic I should discount my own experiences,friends/familys story's,and my own private research because a scientist told me spirits aren't real?
You are the very definition of brain dead fella.I do hope you will keep posting and entertain me.
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Poor little guy.
The medical shills have got you terrified of trying anything they aren't personally peddling.Now gee...I wonder why they would do that? :P


This is incredibly ironic considering that you're whining about proven safe natural methods killing people.When your own precious white coats have withdrawn numerous 'medicines' they artificially created because they were causing deaths and dangerous side effects.

Evidence after the fact suggests they knew this all along,yet chose to squeeze the blood buck as far as they could before they were forced to withdraw it.


I didn't say that the homeopathic "cures" themselves would be directly responsible for the deaths. (Though that is always a possibility) What I am saying is that while some illness is ravaging a person's body and they are trusting in placebos, eventually the illness will win.

It's healed people or eased their symptoms.Oh but I forgot you wouldn't know any of that because it's not in the weekly edition of medical shill digest.

Lol you're a funny guy.By your retarded logic I guess we should bend over for oppressive govts too as long as they give us some nice shiny things to play with eh?


Then publish a paper in a scientific journal that won't get torn to shreds faster than a theory on a geocentric universe by those people in white coats that you so loathe.

Magic of course meaning anything you weren't told to believe in by the white coat messiahs amirite?

way to show that openmindness bro ;)


Do you prefer the term science fiction? Because that is what ghosts are. You would make a poor video store employee if you started stocking the hollywood ghost movies in the section for true stories.

Lets keep it up;I'm sure I'll stir up some brain activity in you yet.

So by your logic I should discount my own experiences,friends/familys story's,and my own private research because a scientist told me spirits aren't real?
You are the very definition of brain dead fella.I do hope you will keep posting and entertain me.


That is exactly what I'm telling you. Their and subsequently your anecdotal evidence is worth bupkis. Hell, if I saw a "ghost" I wouldn't believe what my deceptive eyes were telling me, and I would seek out someone more educated to explain to me what I saw.
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But again I'll state: If anyone has evidence for the existence of ghosts that rises above the anecdotal level I'm all ears.

I watch a lot of those "ghost investigation" shows, but only for entertainment purposes. I know they are pure fiction.
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In other words he won't believe it until his white coat idols put out a paper verifying the existence of God and spirits in a laboratory.

Use this guy for entertainment value only.He's far too dense and brainwashed to ever consider another opinion except what he's spoon fed by the scientific community
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Better than just taking every ghost story by some ignorant hick at face value.
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I might read it. I can't promise I'll do it with a straight face though.
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Is his name and credentials funny?

Schwartz received his PhD from Harvard University and was a professor of psychiatry and psychology at Yale University as well as Director of the Yale Psychophysiology Center and co-director of the Yale Behavioral Medicine Clinic from 1976-1988. He is the Director of the Laboratory for Advances in Consciousness and Health (LACH, formerly the Human Energy Systems Laboratory) in the Department of Psychology at the University of Arizona
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No, the concept is funny. I really don't care about his credentials.
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The delusion thickens...

Now this chump refuses to even believe scientific credentials unless they support his current pre conceived notions.He is a controlled mind slave condemned to spiritual blindness
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"Spiritual blindness" eh? I say there is nothing there to see. I say you have a blindness to facts and evidence.
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When it comes down to it though, I don't think heaven is for everyone. That's why god, if such a being exists, created two places.
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I would say this is due to lack of knowledge of both locations. If people knew for certain, it would be an easy choice.
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there is no two places. There is NO hell, there is only choosing eternal life or not, Those that reject it are uncreated. lets stop with the bs, there are many trillions of planets, craft and architectural worlds to live on
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When it comes down to it though, I don't think heaven is for everyone. That's why god, if such a being exists, created two places.
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I would say this is due to lack of knowledge of both locations. If people knew for certain, it would be an easy choice.
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What I mean is that not everyone's personalities mesh with the concept of heaven. I'm closer to the drug dealers, murderers, and lawyers than I am to a saint.
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I'm no saint either. I was once in jail, for committing for violent felonies. Attacked cops with my hands, due to my rage and not being in a proper state of mind.

Even murderers, if they truly knew of hell, would not want to go there.
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I choose hell.
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How old are you??? I don't ask to denigrate you, just to understand where you are coming from. What type of spiritual connection do you have? Do you live alone with the dog? How close is your closest neighbor?? Made friends? Do you like cats? Often they seem to sence a presence before we do.

How long have you lived where you do? Feel comportabl there? What work do you do?? Have a significant otehr??

So, now, how good are you at following instructions? Go for a long, long, long walk outside a place you like to go with the dog. Bring treats for the dog, and for you......almonds, apricots, water?

Do you have a spiritual adisvor? Would that help?

When you come back, take a shower, wash your hair, put on clothes that please you.

Next, cook yourself a sumptious meal, and invite a friend, have flowers, candels, incence.

Dance, if it suits you, put on drumming music, and let loose, like that old song, 'Footloose' .................if your firend would like to join in, great.

Now, say to yourself, 'I am the Master of this house, and of all energy inside and outside, above and below'. Imagine yourself in a rain-bowed mirror bubble, and surround yourself with that God-sent, rainbow light, share it with your friends. Celebrate it. GOD IS LOVE!!!! God is love and he who abides in love, abides in God.

Lastly, have a great time with it. Play with it, add what you like.

Ask the ghost, What are you doing here????' It's remotely possible that this entity is a 'helper'?? If not, ask it to seek the light, and pray for it, its family and loved ones.

Let me know how things feel to you later.??? Please?

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