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GERMANS, what were/are you taught in school about Hitler, WWII, Holocaust?

 
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I am nearly 40 years old. In my time , they told us, that we germans start the war against Poland, and declared war on England, France and the USA.
The Allies were the people who free´d us from the nazi regime.
In the 80is , they told us, that they were the best people in the world, and that all german soldiers were brutal, with no heart.
And the holocaust was because Hitler was jealous ,cause the jewish people were more inteligent and more rich.

Btw, they told us, that we are still guilty. Dunno if they teach it still in school.


We arent able to discuss this topic openly , cause its not allowed in germany.
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German masculinity was broken by WW2.

The rape do Berlin dispelled the myth of male strength for its women.

That's why most German youth these days are liberal.
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I agree, though if you forget about any particular partisan viewpoint, and simply add up all the wars your European masters have led their flock into in just the past 225+ years (inc. Napoleon) THAT'S A LOT OF ALPHA MALES THAT DISAPPEARED.. no wonder so many lesbians, the poor gals can't find a good man without strapping one on.

cruise
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Perhaps those wars were initiated by the Bavarian Illuminati from their headquarters in the USA?

Just asking questions.
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The Allies rewrote all German textbooks after the war to include German guilt and blame for the war.

I realize that Holocaust denial laws limit what Germans can say on the subject, but Hitler was not as stupid as some think.
 Quoting: A_Historian


Uh...so Hitler's Germany wasn't responsible for the war?

Seeing as there was the small matter of them putting half of Europe under the Nazi jackboot, and ending with ruin for their own country and people.

Not that I personally think Germans of today should be blamed. It's in the past. But Hitler brought ruin to his own people.
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England declared war on Germany. Useless Brit. Stop crying.
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clappahitler
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and the whore france too...
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I am nearly 40 years old. In my time , they told us, that we germans start the war against Poland, and declared war on England, France and the USA.
The Allies were the people who free´d us from the nazi regime.
In the 80is , they told us, that they were the best people in the world, and that all german soldiers were brutal, with no heart.
And the holocaust was because Hitler was jealous ,cause the jewish people were more inteligent and more rich.

Btw, they told us, that we are still guilty. Dunno if they teach it still in school.


We arent able to discuss this topic openly , cause its not allowed in germany.
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we know!

very SAD!!!

Like the jewish run Soviet fucking Union
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You missed nothing. It's like old, rusty bunkers. Typical armored concrete building style of te hitler era.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


A typical cold, emotionless German response.

It's certainly more than old rusty bunkers. Much more. It's a journey of the mind, the imagination, as in imagining the people 70 years ago who occupied that space, commuting with their ghosts; not real ghosts but ghosts as in memories, and reflecting on what went wrong and how to avoid it in the future. Sure, you can do all that from the comfort of your home, but it's not the same. Just as seeing a picture of a beach is nothing compared to the experience of being there, so too for the more infamous places that dot the landscape of human history.
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'This video is not available in your country'

hmmm... probably, because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights.
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I am nearly 40 years old. In my time , they told us, that we germans start the war against Poland, and declared war on England, France and the USA.
The Allies were the people who free´d us from the nazi regime.
In the 80is , they told us, that they were the best people in the world, and that all german soldiers were brutal, with no heart.
And the holocaust was because Hitler was jealous ,cause the jewish people were more inteligent and more rich.

Btw, they told us, that we are still guilty. Dunno if they teach it still in school.


We arent able to discuss this topic openly , cause its not allowed in germany.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23511498


What u mean not allowed? by whom?
Ive seen a documentary on a professor teaching his students about "forced labor" in Renania, havin lot of troubles accessing official docs of the period. Plus many parents retired their sons from the class when realized him was a liberal...I think u guys need to make peace with ur past, but if "u" still consider the "cospirators" were traitors,"u" as a social corpse have a long way to go
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German masculinity was broken by WW2.

The rape do Berlin dispelled the myth of male strength for its women.

That's why most German youth these days are liberal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23514930


I agree, though if you forget about any particular partisan viewpoint, and simply add up all the wars your European masters have led their flock into in just the past 225+ years (inc. Napoleon) THAT'S A LOT OF ALPHA MALES THAT DISAPPEARED.. no wonder so many lesbians, the poor gals can't find a good man without strapping one on.

cruise
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Perhaps those wars were initiated by the Bavarian Illuminati from their headquarters in the USA?

Just asking questions.
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like i said, your masters
Whomever becomes a light unto themselves shall see the fear in their heart is only that of love
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USA ENGLAND, What's the difference? lol

We both don't have a Bill of Rights.

Last Edited by No One Has The Answer on 09/10/2012 08:17 AM
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I am nearly 40 years old. In my time , they told us, that we germans start the war against Poland, and declared war on England, France and the USA.
The Allies were the people who free´d us from the nazi regime.
In the 80is , they told us, that they were the best people in the world, and that all german soldiers were brutal, with no heart.
And the holocaust was because Hitler was jealous ,cause the jewish people were more inteligent and more rich.

Btw, they told us, that we are still guilty. Dunno if they teach it still in school.


We arent able to discuss this topic openly , cause its not allowed in germany.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23511498


It's a pity, really, that the guilt is ongoing like that. I mean, it was a generation ago. This new generation of people should be allowed to start anew.

And besides, Germany learned some stiff lessons through the two wars, so I don't think they would ever try to launch any wars of conquest ever again.

I've been to Cologne and Dusseldorf and a few other places in Germany, and I found the Germans to be fantastic people. I had a great time there. So much culture and history in Germany, as well as the stunning landscapes. It's a pity that people have to spoil things with war.
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I talk often to older people cause my job. They were really young at this time. Schools and hospitals were shooted by brit Fighterplaned all the times. The kids needed to jump in bushes, cause the brits wanted to kill the kids.

American soldiers were different. They were nice from what i heard. Dunno about russians, cause i live in Cologne, far away from Berlin.

My Grandfather was in Africa with Rommel, he said that Rommel was a nice guy. He was playin cards with the normal soldiers he said.

About the holocaust. Nobody i talked,were aware of it. They didnt know it. They know that the jewish people in the towns, moved to another place or needed to leave the country. But thats it.

Proll they lie , i dont know. But its interesting to talk to those people who were there. Its different to the History the MSM tells us.
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Dang

Let's try that again

"judea declares war on germany 1933"

Google that phrase.
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yes, a jewish economic boycott on german goods. in protest of a man being named chancellor who wrote mein kampf. spin it how you'd like. it isn't like world wide jewish people were killing germans.
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What u mean not allowed? by whom?
Ive seen a documentary on a professor teaching his students about "forced labor" in Renania, havin lot of troubles accessing official docs of the period. Plus many parents retired their sons from the class when realized him was a liberal...I think u guys need to make peace with ur past, but if "u" still consider the "cospirators" were traitors,"u" as a social corpse have a long way to go
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We arent able to talk openly about the holocaust, cause its forbidden by law in germany.
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I worked in both educational Systems,
the German as well as the Japanese,
the young Students in Germany still
get a lot of Input and they "need" to think
about the WW.2 and the Holocaust
but here in Japan it is only a tiny Block,
a Semester in the Junior High School!

In Germany it is one of the main Topics
and i think this is the Way for every Nation!

I hold great Hope for the young Germans
+ the Children of the Immigrants,
to talk with young Muslims about the Holocaust
open up new Doors but it is also very difficult!
G.Y.!B.E.
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I am nearly 40 years old. In my time , they told us, that we germans start the war against Poland, and declared war on England, France and the USA.
The Allies were the people who free´d us from the nazi regime.
In the 80is , they told us, that they were the best people in the world, and that all german soldiers were brutal, with no heart.
And the holocaust was because Hitler was jealous ,cause the jewish people were more inteligent and more rich.

Btw, they told us, that we are still guilty. Dunno if they teach it still in school.


We arent able to discuss this topic openly , cause its not allowed in germany.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23511498


It's a pity, really, that the guilt is ongoing like that. I mean, it was a generation ago. This new generation of people should be allowed to start anew.

And besides, Germany learned some stiff lessons through the two wars, so I don't think they would ever try to launch any wars of conquest ever again.

I've been to Cologne and Dusseldorf and a few other places in Germany, and I found the Germans to be fantastic people. I had a great time there. So much culture and history in Germany, as well as the stunning landscapes. It's a pity that people have to spoil things with war.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Staring a new should include the right to starting wars. As long as Germany is not alowed to starting wars its still under guilt.
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It's a pity, really, that the guilt is ongoing like that. I mean, it was a generation ago. This new generation of people should be allowed to start anew.

And besides, Germany learned some stiff lessons through the two wars, so I don't think they would ever try to launch any wars of conquest ever again.

I've been to Cologne and Dusseldorf and a few other places in Germany, and I found the Germans to be fantastic people. I had a great time there. So much culture and history in Germany, as well as the stunning landscapes. It's a pity that people have to spoil things with war.
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Na we dont need any wars. We hate that. I guess most of us are very liberal. We dont care about colors, religions and stuff. If they dont offense us, we dont care at all.
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I worked in both educational Systems,
the German as well as the Japanese,
the young Students in Germany still
get a lot of Input and they "need" to think
about the WW.2 and the Holocaust
but here in Japan it is only a tiny Block,
a Semester in the Junior High School!

In Germany it is one of the main Topics
and i think this is the Way for every Nation!

I hold great Hope for the young Germans
+ the Children of the Immigrants,
to talk with young Muslims about the Holocaust
open up new Doors but it is also very difficult!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


I guess ,this is why the germans dont want any war. Hell, we were all pissed cause german troops are in Afghanistan, cause the fckin NATO. We should leave this place, it doesnt belong to us.
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You missed nothing. It's like old, rusty bunkers. Typical armored concrete building style of te hitler era.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


A typical cold, emotionless German response.

It's certainly more than old rusty bunkers. Much more. It's a journey of the mind, the imagination, as in imagining the people 70 years ago who occupied that space, commuting with their ghosts; not real ghosts but ghosts as in memories, and reflecting on what went wrong and how to avoid it in the future. Sure, you can do all that from the comfort of your home, but it's not the same. Just as seeing a picture of a beach is nothing compared to the experience of being there, so too for the more infamous places that dot the landscape of human history.
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'This video is not available in your country'

hmmm... probably, because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights.
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Thats not the reason. Try this.

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The Allies rewrote all German textbooks after the war to include German guilt and blame for the war.

I realize that Holocaust denial laws limit what Germans can say on the subject, but Hitler was not as stupid as some think.
 Quoting: A_Historian


Uh...so Hitler's Germany wasn't responsible for the war?

Seeing as there was the small matter of them putting half of Europe under the Nazi jackboot, and ending with ruin for their own country and people.

Not that I personally think Germans of today should be blamed. It's in the past. But Hitler brought ruin to his own people.
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No, the International bankers were responsible.


They funded both sides, and made huge profits.
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

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It's a pity, really, that the guilt is ongoing like that. I mean, it was a generation ago. This new generation of people should be allowed to start anew.

And besides, Germany learned some stiff lessons through the two wars, so I don't think they would ever try to launch any wars of conquest ever again.

I've been to Cologne and Dusseldorf and a few other places in Germany, and I found the Germans to be fantastic people. I had a great time there. So much culture and history in Germany, as well as the stunning landscapes. It's a pity that people have to spoil things with war.
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Na we dont need any wars. We hate that. I guess most of us are very liberal. We dont care about colors, religions and stuff. If they dont offense us, we dont care at all.
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More the 50% of the children in places like Frankfurt are already non-germans.
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In school (around the end of the 1970s), our teacher showed us films and pictures of heaps of dead and tortured KZ inmates, mass graves, skeletons. You know that kind of b/w pictures.

Kind of weird showing this stuff to boys and girls at the age of 12. There was always an unspoken accusation in the classroom, like "LOOK at how bad you are". It was preposterous... as if WE, born 20 years after the end of WWII, were responsible for this shit.
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In school (around the end of the 1970s), our teacher showed us films and pictures of heaps of dead and tortured KZ inmates, mass graves, skeletons. You know that kind of b/w pictures.

Kind of weird showing this stuff to boys and girls at the age of 12. There was always an unspoken accusation in the classroom, like "LOOK at how bad you are". It was preposterous... as if WE, born 20 years after the end of WWII, were responsible for this shit.
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They do it, so you hate Germany. And love jewish people.
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What u mean not allowed? by whom?
Ive seen a documentary on a professor teaching his students about "forced labor" in Renania, havin lot of troubles accessing official docs of the period. Plus many parents retired their sons from the class when realized him was a liberal...I think u guys need to make peace with ur past, but if "u" still consider the "cospirators" were traitors,"u" as a social corpse have a long way to go
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We arent able to talk openly about the holocaust, cause its forbidden by law in germany.
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I realize that you can not comment on the topic but perhaps you can take a little comfort in this:

Germany did not start the war.

Germany did not declare war on Britain or France and only declared war on the US because we were illegally violating neutrality laws by aiding the Brits in the Atlantic and providing arms. That in addition to mutual aid agreements with Japan.

The Holocaust is largely a myth...
Most Jewish people left Germany early on and the majority of the others crossed into the Soviet controlled areas of Poland during the German Soviet alliance.

Hitler brought Germany back from the hell of Depression, re instilled pride in the German worker and did all he could to stop the Communist movement through Europe.
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A piece form a German History Book...

<< Ab 1921 war er Volkswagen der NSDAP und panzer die slappidashie und Juden des Humptidumptishaften, zum Luger mit romnie Programmschrift Mein Kampf. 1923 versuchte er mittenromnie dem Fokker-Krouten-Putsch, die Bimbo-shaften BASF zu Zurich. Am 30. January 1933 wurde er zum Jerry-Built bimboshaften. Sein Bitter-Bitter die pretzel Demokratie, den Seig Heil und den Rechtsstaatenbimboshaften durch Bonken Gleichschaltungsslapen, - und beerkeller, Lugerbimboshafter, Fokker und Fokker an politischen Guggenheim. Die deutschen Juden windowsmashen systematisch Auschvitzen und Fuhrer, Vorsprung durch von technik. Die Hamberger und friesen 1935. Glock gewankentanken Hitler infolgerscoffee windowshaften- und ancleßensricen abidaben spekensie Deutschland. 1934 übergeek bimboshaften er das BMW des Reichspreksie deusche >>
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Staring a new should include the right to starting wars. As long as Germany is not alowed to starting wars its still under guilt.
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Why would they want to? Do people learn nothing from past mistakes? Unless it's for self defense, which is different of course.

Why would they want to start wars otherwise? This goes for all countries, not just Germany.
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You missed nothing. It's like old, rusty bunkers. Typical armored concrete building style of te hitler era.
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


A typical cold, emotionless German response.

It's certainly more than old rusty bunkers. Much more. It's a journey of the mind, the imagination, as in imagining the people 70 years ago who occupied that space, commuting with their ghosts; not real ghosts but ghosts as in memories, and reflecting on what went wrong and how to avoid it in the future. Sure, you can do all that from the comfort of your home, but it's not the same. Just as seeing a picture of a beach is nothing compared to the experience of being there, so too for the more infamous places that dot the landscape of human history.
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Note to self: Visit Guantanamo Bay.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


clappa

Put Gaza and Palestinian Refugee Camps on that list as well. Lets stay in the present and not the past, plenty of attrocities being committed every day by the Imperaliasts, same one's who wanted WWII.
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In Germany it is one of the main Topics
and i think this is the Way for every Nation!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


I wish it were so in the UK now. Lately because of multicultural political correctness, the Crusades, WW1 & WW2 are hardly mentioned in schools.

Teachers don't want to offend anyone, so wars are off the radar and replaced with "we are all the same" shit.

Someone once said, if you don't learn the mistakes from history , you are bound to repeat them all over again.

Great thoughts..........

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What u mean not allowed? by whom?
Ive seen a documentary on a professor teaching his students about "forced labor" in Renania, havin lot of troubles accessing official docs of the period. Plus many parents retired their sons from the class when realized him was a liberal...I think u guys need to make peace with ur past, but if "u" still consider the "cospirators" were traitors,"u" as a social corpse have a long way to go
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We arent able to talk openly about the holocaust, cause its forbidden by law in germany.
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Because according to Atheists, the truth needs man's law to protect it. lol
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Hitler brought Germany back from the hell of Depression, re instilled pride in the German worker and did all he could to stop the Communist movement through Europe.
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Yes, he did....at the outset.

But that doesn't alter the fact that he ultimately led his nation to ruin....by his greed and his willingness to sacrifice his own people for a lost cause, even when he knew it was a lost cause....such as not permitting his troops to surrender or retreat at places such as Stalingrad.

Ultimately he proved that he cared nothing for his own people. And even at the end, in his bunker, he ordered his people to keep on fighting and dying even when it was hopeless. And he declared something along the lines of "If Germany can't win the war, and is going to go under, then I want to bring the whole world down with it."

Not a very nice chap, on the whole...
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In school (around the end of the 1970s), our teacher showed us films and pictures of heaps of dead and tortured KZ inmates, mass graves, skeletons. You know that kind of b/w pictures.

Kind of weird showing this stuff to boys and girls at the age of 12. There was always an unspoken accusation in the classroom, like "LOOK at how bad you are". It was preposterous... as if WE, born 20 years after the end of WWII, were responsible for this shit.
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They do it, so you hate Germany. And love jewish people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23512976


That didn't really work out for them as planned... because even as a kid you instinctively know when the grownups want you to think or feel in a certain way... when they want to manipulate you. Back then of course I had no idea about the "why", but the whole affair smelled rotten.

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