Chicago Teachers on strike

Let the greedy educators to scream and cry. Aren't the teachers aware there is a recession/depression? They are lucky they're even employed.

Still better than nearly a 50 percent dropout rate. There is also this little nugget called standardized testing which is commonly used in schools today.
Those who can learn will, and those who don't; well, I guess that's what minimum wage is for.

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Yes, shining examples for our children. Seems to me all they'd need to make these folks happy is rattle the feed bucket!

Chicago's children will probably learn as much today during their supervised recess as they would if the "educators" were there. They should all be fired and replaced by the thousands of unemployed teachers and college grads. Pull a Reagan move and cut them all off. That would truly reflect what the public wants and cut the overpaid fat from a failing system.

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Let the Liberals feast on each other.

Serves them right.

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The unions want smaller classrooms , which means MORE teachers, which means MORE dues, which means MORE support for their beloved Obama.

That says alot. Thank you. Im printing,uh, I mean, studying for my masters right now.

Oh this is funny. So you want classroom sizes of 40-50 students? lmao, yeah, the'll be some serious learning going on in that room. Your blind hate looks for anything to justify its existence, including 50 student classrooms and thinking that is a good learning environment.

Sick

Greedy swine teaching children to be greedy swine...

Teachers are underpaid for what they do today. I am married to one and I see what my wife does. Average teacher has 5 years if university training and compared to other 4-5 year degrees they are underpaid. Some argue that they get two months off in the summer and it is only 10 months of work, what they don't consider is how much time is put into the job during those 10 months. My wife teaches 5 classes a day and has 40 to 45 students in each of her classes. In total she has over 200 students to teach and stay on top of. Every night she is marking labs, quizzes, tests, research papers and assignments. Then she has to plan her lessons for 5 classes the next day. She easily puts in an extra 4 hours of work every night and uses Saturdays to finish off what she can't get done during the week.

Students today are not the same as students before. iPods smart phones, computers, video games, social networking, and instant entertainment are all things that distract many students in school. Teachers now have the job of being semi unqualified experts in parenting, social work, counselling, family liaison work. The problem is shitty parenting where parents spoilt their kids with toys and entertainment and wonder why tests scores are so low. Then everyone blames the teachers. Yes some shitty teachers exist but there are many great ones and for what they actually spin side the classroom and behind the scenes at home they are very under valued.

I stand with my union brothers and sisters!

Down with Work up with Pay, Hoorah!

Oh get over it. Your wife can always fucking quit her job if she doesn't like it.

Oh by the way, I'm married to a teacher that does all that shit but she's not whining about it. My kid gets to go to one of best school districts in Texas and that's good enough for my wife.

the government workers are the ones not competing, their work is not outsourced, and they're the only workers that WE have to pay, with our often reduced circumstances.

She loves her job and she isn't wining. I am just responding to all those who say they are over paid and only work 9-10 months a year and blame teachers for low test scores. There is a lot behind the scenes that the complainers don't see.

That's how communism works, don't the communist union bosses teach members that?


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They seem to be enjoying this so much, they should be released from classroom and administrative duties permanently so they can do it full time.

What do you think is the right pay for that? 180 days of let's say 10 hours work per day. 4 or 5 years of college, as EDUCATION majors. That is a soft degree, a degree for those who cannot do real majors. Maybe some who teach in HS have more academic Bachelor's degrees, but then their Masters (or Masters plus 30 or whatever) will be in education. In other words, they don't have to be great students.

If we want to produce great students, we should put people in front of the classrooms who are or were great students themselves. Where else do we not lead by example? If we want exciting, demand classrooms, we need to have an agile mind leading the class.

And that would be worth the $76,000 per year that CPS teachers average. But that is not what they are. They never were that and they never could be that. They lack the raw ability.

Yeah! And get rid of science. Teach creationism instead.


Erm, not exactly. Hire some out-of-work scientists and engineers for math and science subjects, who really know what the f*ck they are teaching.

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this is the better thread on the teacher strike!

well when she picked that career path what did she think she was getting into? there are plenty of suburbs and smaller communities she can find a teaching job at with less students and less stress. If she wanted a easy job there's always Mcdonalds.

I dont feel sorry for someone who gets offered a pay increase of 16%. They make around $65K... not too shabby. My teacher friend makes $45K and he is not complaining.

yeah see, I am in a suburb of Chicago, Kids get less then Chicago, 11,000 compared to 13,000 a kid in Chicago and these teachers with a masters make 52,000 a year yet my school district is ranked 60th out of the top 1000th in Illinois. so those teachers are greedy sobs in chicago.

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According to research, the most important factor related to student achievement is class size. Would you want your second grader in a class with 24 children or a class with 55 students?

The US scores are not low, that is just something politicians like to say to rile folks up. In the US, people who have been out of school for ten years and decide to go back to college then take the ACT and their scores are averaged in with high school student scores.

In most other countries, at about age 15, if a student is not university material, he is put into an apprenticeship program and doesn't take those tests. In many countries, the choice is not even given to them, or what their major will be. The tidbit of info that you need to put everything into perspective about student scores would be how many of the students actually take the test. And who they are, how long they have been out of high school.

Student score information is about as reliable as other information that is used to start political arguments. Yet, I never see the validity of statements about student achievement questioned. Why is that?

YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS! DON'T YOU KNOW THIS HUGE STRIKE WITH TEACHERS IS A RITUAL THAT IS BEING PULLED OFF JUST AS BUSH HAD A BLACK WOMAN READING "KITE PLANE HIT STEEL MUST" TO A BUNCH OF BLACK KIDS ON 9/11/2001 ?

THIS IS ALL A SETUP OF WHAT'S TO COME

What?!? I am not following. I get the 9/11 was an inside job.

I have never heard that "Kite Plan Hit Steel Must" part...please expand your thought. Try to be cohesive and use periods, commas, etc.

WEEK 2.... Time to bring in some replacements and strip them of their teaching licenses.

It's against the federal law for teachers to strike. But as Obama has shown us, federal law doesn't apply to the people of Chicago.