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We covered alot of the basics in this thread here: Thread: History of Mankind - For Beginners

Now let's go a little farther.

Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 reads "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." verse 2 says "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."

But, there is a piece missing, a huge piece. That piece is the several million years of time between genesis 1:1 and genesis 1:2.

A professor of Biblical Hebrew, Dr. Robert D. Luginbill, explains that the more accurate translation of verse 2 is this "But the earth came to be ruined and despoiled – darkness lay upon the face of the abyss while God's Spirit brooded over the surface of its waters."

What? The earth became ruined? What's that all about? Well, an indepth study on this can be read here by Dr. Luginbill can be read here [link to ichthys.com] in the section titled "genesis gap". A sister recently shared that site with me, and it's beyond amazing.

After reading that study on the genesis gap, my memory was jogged. I remembered reading an account that is the same in a book called Revealing Heaven by Katt Kerr. Katt was taken to heaven many times and shown many things and told to write about what she was shown and share it with all who would listen.

Here is her account, and it explains what happened in that missing span of time in Genesis chapter 1. This is a small excerpt from her book, Revealing Heaven Part 2.

"A beautiful light came from up above and showered the room in a brilliant hologram. The scene was so real, that I thought if I reached out, I could touch it, God appeared, and the Glory was so great, at first I had to close my eyes and then He began to speak to the void of space and suddenly things began to form and spin in the space (Genesis 1:1). Eventually, the earth appeared and God poured water out of His hand to measure out the ocean. I say 'ocean' because there was only one landmass on the original earth and water surrounded it on all sides. Then He spoke and amazing, strange plants were formed and put into place. The trees were huge, as were the flowers on this new earth. Some blooms were the size of a three story house and the aroma was intoxicating. How fun it was to see God create the different creatures and put them in the sea. He was about to create more animals, but did something else first, He created an atmosphere in which they could live. He spoke and a transparent shield appeared far above in the sky.

This shield went completely around the world and covered the whole earth, like a huge bubble. Next, He did an unexpected thing and called forth billions of gallons of water to cover the entire area of the shield. What power that took to put it in place and yet, not one drop goes spinning of into space. Then He called forth a second layer to the shield and placed it over the water to seal it in place. They called it a Water Vapor Shield; which caused a continual heavy mist to come from the shield down onto the earth. Then the Father began to create some of the strangest animals that ever walked this planet- the dinosaurs! Some were skinny and small, about six feet high and then there were those that towered 90 feet high. The continuous mist was necessary to keep the skin of the dinosaurs from cracking and falling off. God continued to create many other creatures like birds that made beautiful sounds and many kinds of fish for the sea. The wonderful thing was that they all lived in harmony with each other, because as in the Garden of Eden, evil had not entered in. How perfect everything was and the sky was a peachy, rosy color, not blue. This effect was created from the water vapor shield and the light above it, filtering through.

Planet Earth looked like a beautiful, multi-colored marble out in space and peace remained (millions of years) until the day everything changed! There was war in Heaven and for the first time, lightning struck the earth with a loud clap! Michael had just kicked Lucifer out of Heaven and he came streaking down to earth. This continued to happen for some time as one third of the angels (whom Lucifer had deceived) were also kicked out of the celestial realm, never to return. Although they were condemned to Hell (in the center of the earth) they eventually began to come to the surface of the earth and defile it. This caused an upheaval on the planet and live was never the same again. Satan (formerly Lucifer) was furious about his failed plan to exalt himself over God's throne and so decided to take over this new earth! It says in Jeremiah 4, that he began to make the earth a wilderness. Evil then entered into the creatures God had made; they became vicious and began to turn from their original state and instead of eating the grasses and fruit they ate each other! The beautiful earth, now being controlled by Lucifer became defiled.

Time passed and when God had enough of the destruction, He did something to stop Lucifer; He caused the Ice Age! I was truly captivated, standing and watching as the mysteries of the ages unfolded before me. At the same time, a little overwhelmed because of the level of revelation being given to me. All of a sudden, I saw the Father reach across space and break the water vapor shield and billions of gallons of water hit the earth. Wham! There went the one land mass, into many pieces, floating across the sea. Some of them overlapping upon each other and burying the dinosaurs between layers of earth. Some of the now new continents formed massive mountains, which at the same time caused deep valleys to form. The water kept coming, until all the earth was completely covered. Then God leaned forward again and blew onto the earth; immediately ice began to form over the surface of the waters and life stopped as the earth, covered in darkness, entered into the Ice Age!

The scene changed (millions of years later as the earth lie dormant under the ice) and I saw streaks of light come from Heaven and the Spirit of God was hovering over the frozen planet, waiting. Then I saw God lean forward and He blew upon the ice and instantly the earth was defrosted. Once again water covered the whole earth (Gen 1:2) and there was no land mass visible to the eye. God spoke again and light was! It was so fantastic, as I watched God re-create the earth, different atmosphere, animals and even man, but eventually they sent me back down to earth."


Kat's experience compliments the Bible and fills in the missing gap and answers the old question "But, what about the dinosaurs?". It also explains that the earth was very different in many ways before sin entered in.

[link to christopher-schmidt1985.blogspot.com]

If you would like to read an indepth study about the rebellion of satan and the genesis gap, this is Dr. Luginbill's website here [link to ichthys.com]



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And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
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And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
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LOL. And what do these people say about those that claim they have been to heaven. Seems god changed his mind or the people are lying or the bible is lying. Which is it?
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And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
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LOL. And what do these people say about those that claim they have been to heaven. Seems god changed his mind or the people are lying or the bible is lying. Which is it?
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Jesus ascended into heaven first, then others could too. Nobody went to heaven before Jesus.

Some people just like to post one verse to try and confuse others when they don't understand what the scripture means.
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And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
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LOL. And what do these people say about those that claim they have been to heaven. Seems god changed his mind or the people are lying or the bible is lying. Which is it?
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Jesus ascended into heaven first, then others could too. Nobody went to heaven before Jesus.

Some people just like to post one verse to try and confuse others when they don't understand what the scripture means.
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Interesting.....Where did Elijah or John the baptist come from them when they appeared to Jesus? And the Chariots of fire? Did Elijah take a stop on the way to heaven?

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It would be nice if the discussion could stick to the topic, which is the Genesis Gap.
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WARNING, mixing dinosaurs with Jesus in one thread is never a good thing to do! coffee4
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And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
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LOL. And what do these people say about those that claim they have been to heaven. Seems god changed his mind or the people are lying or the bible is lying. Which is it?
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Jesus ascended into heaven first, then others could too. Nobody went to heaven before Jesus.

Some people just like to post one verse to try and confuse others when they don't understand what the scripture means.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Interesting.....Where did Elijah or John the baptist come from them when they appeared to Jesus?
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Paradise........a separate place from heaven, also called Abraham's Bosom.
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Did anyone actually read the original post?
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The "Gap Theory" is nothing new; you can google opinions on it either way.
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...yeah, Dr. Robert D. Luginbill always does talk bollocks when he's pissed...
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LOL. And what do these people say about those that claim they have been to heaven. Seems god changed his mind or the people are lying or the bible is lying. Which is it?
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Jesus ascended into heaven first, then others could too. Nobody went to heaven before Jesus.

Some people just like to post one verse to try and confuse others when they don't understand what the scripture means.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Interesting.....Where did Elijah or John the baptist come from them when they appeared to Jesus?
 Quoting: Ohwell


Paradise........a separate place from heaven, also called Abraham's Bosom.
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Oh, I see. So Paradise was a bus stop.

Anyway I wont deviate your discussion with my questions.

Fundamentally I have questions that question how anyone ever came to accept the words and language they speak is their own intuition when it is clear you only speak the language prevalent in the region you were born and it is not as if you at a tender age chose to speak the current language you are speaking out of the many out there in the world.

Since the words you speak arent a creation of yours, we are no different than monkeys taught how to do a few tricks and all we think we know and the identities and labels we have given ourselves mean absolutely nothing.

However, I think these kinds of discussion isnt the place for this.

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Lisa Lisa. What a strange coincidence! I've spent the whole weekend researching this very subject after a friend's 10 year old daughter posed the question" Where are the dinosaurs in the Bible?"

It would appear there was some kind of creation gap, followed by the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs, then creation days 2 onwards began.

All in all, the whole dinosaurs issue is a bit of a sideshow, not every living creature is listed in the Bible, and their appearance and disappearance has absolutely no effect on our relationship with God. No doubt there are people on this site who would take issue with that view, but hey it's all about belief, and I choose to believe the Bible is the written word of God
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Lisa Lisa. What a strange coincidence! I've spent the whole weekend researching this very subject after a friend's 10 year old daughter posed the question" Where are the dinosaurs in the Bible?"

It would appear there was some kind of creation gap, followed by the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs, then creation days 2 onwards began.

All in all, the whole dinosaurs issue is a bit of a sideshow, not every living creature is listed in the Bible, and their appearance and disappearance has absolutely no effect on our relationship with God. No doubt there are people on this site who would take issue with that view, but hey it's all about belief, and I choose to believe the Bible is the written word of God
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Yea, it sure is interesting! Alot of people use the dinosaurs and the ice age as a means of disbelieving in the Bible, just because the Bible doesn't mention it.

Well, if the Bible mentioned everything that ever happened, it would be a book as big as the universe and impossible for anyone to read, carry, or even print........lol.

But, one can dig and find the answers to alot of missing parts. I never knew about the creation gap until I started digging. And, it didn't even sink in until I read it from 2 different sources......lol. Then I finally got it.

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We covered alot of the basics in this thread here: Thread: History of Mankind - For Beginners


Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 reads "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." verse 2 says "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."


The beginning of what? which God? Why does it read heavenS and not heaven?

and what is the SPIRIT of God?

Explain these first. No mumbo jumbo please.
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We covered alot of the basics in this thread here: Thread: History of Mankind - For Beginners


Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 reads "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." verse 2 says "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."


The beginning of what? which God? Why does it read heavenS and not heaven?

and what is the SPIRIT of God?

Explain these first. No mumbo jumbo please.
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The beginning of what? The beginning of creating the physical world, the world that we live in.

which God? The Father and the Son, Jesus Christ.

Why does it read heavenS and not heaven? Our atmosphere is referred to as a "heaven" in the Bible, and space or the universe is also refered to as a "heaven" in the bible. The Bible speaks of 3 things called "heavens". Our sky, outter space, and the spiritual heaven where God lives.

and what is the SPIRIT of God? The Holy Spirit.
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The bible is not a history book, its not a science book, its not a book on politics, and its definitely not the only book on the shelf.

It is a book that does have a few of those things included in it (very few). However the intent/purpose of the bible is to explain Mankind, God and the relationship between the two.

Genesis is not literal. It is allegory, a story - sort of a prolog that tells us 'what went on before' to get us ready for the rest of the collection of books.

No Dinosaurs are not in the bible, nor are the 4.5 billions of years that went on before the first humans arrived on earth. There was no Adam and No Eve as named people. There is the Adam - humanity.

Dinosaurs are not important in the explaining of what mankind is and what God is and what the relationship between the two is. Nor is stem cell research part of this subject, nor is exoplanetary subjects, or chemistry, or physics or a lot of other things.

Mankind, God and the relationship between the two is the only purpose of the bible.

Unfortunately too many people have been taught that the bible is supposed to do more (erroneously). And have fallen into the terrible trap of trying to weight the whole world against the bible, either to justify their belief or to disprove the belief of others.
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The bible is not a history book, its not a science book, its not a book on politics, and its definitely not the only book on the shelf.

It is a book that does have a few of those things included in it (very few). However the intent/purpose of the bible is to explain Mankind, God and the relationship between the two.

Genesis is not literal. It is allegory, a story - sort of a prolog that tells us 'what went on before' to get us ready for the rest of the collection of books.

No Dinosaurs are not in the bible, nor are the 4.5 billions of years that went on before the first humans arrived on earth. There was no Adam and No Eve as named people. There is the Adam - humanity.

Dinosaurs are not important in the explaining of what mankind is and what God is and what the relationship between the two is. Nor is stem cell research part of this subject, nor is exoplanetary subjects, or chemistry, or physics or a lot of other things.

Mankind, God and the relationship between the two is the only purpose of the bible.

Unfortunately too many people have been taught that the bible is supposed to do more (erroneously). And have fallen into the terrible trap of trying to weight the whole world against the bible, either to justify their belief or to disprove the belief of others.
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We covered alot of the basics in this thread here: Thread: History of Mankind - For Beginners


Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 reads "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." verse 2 says "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."


The beginning of what? which God? Why does it read heavenS and not heaven?

and what is the SPIRIT of God?

Explain these first. No mumbo jumbo please.
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The beginning of what? The beginning of creating the physical world, the world that we live in.

which God? The Father and the Son, Jesus Christ.

Why does it read heavenS and not heaven? Our atmosphere is referred to as a "heaven" in the Bible, and space or the universe is also refered to as a "heaven" in the bible. The Bible speaks of 3 things called "heavens". Our sky, outter space, and the spiritual heaven where God lives.

and what is the SPIRIT of God? The Holy Spirit.
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Holy Spirit???? But what is the Holy Spirit???????????????????????????????????????????????????????​????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
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We covered alot of the basics in this thread here: Thread: History of Mankind - For Beginners


Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 reads "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." verse 2 says "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."


The beginning of what? which God? Why does it read heavenS and not heaven?

and what is the SPIRIT of God?

Explain these first. No mumbo jumbo please.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



The beginning of what? The beginning of creating the physical world, the world that we live in.

which God? The Father and the Son, Jesus Christ.

Why does it read heavenS and not heaven? Our atmosphere is referred to as a "heaven" in the Bible, and space or the universe is also refered to as a "heaven" in the bible. The Bible speaks of 3 things called "heavens". Our sky, outter space, and the spiritual heaven where God lives.

and what is the SPIRIT of God? The Holy Spirit.
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Holy Spirit???? But what is the Holy Spirit???????????????????????????????????????????????????????​????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You mean, WHO is the Holy Spirit. God is made up of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. All 3 make up the Godhead of the universe. The Holy Trinity.
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what about:
why over hundred million years of "evolving" left no sign of saurus sapiens
but after only sixty million years we "evolved" into homo sapiens.
lizards out of luck?
or are we blind?
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The "Gap Theory" is nothing new; you can google opinions on it either way.
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Theory is the key word here.

Read the Bible and stop making stuff up as you go. People input so much into their own agenda


God said, never add or take away from the Bible.


New age mumbo jumbo
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And Jesus said, today you will be with Me in Paradise.... Hades?
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We covered alot of the basics in this thread here: Thread: History of Mankind - For Beginners


Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 reads "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." verse 2 says "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."


The beginning of what? which God? Why does it read heavenS and not heaven?

and what is the SPIRIT of God?

Explain these first. No mumbo jumbo please.
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The beginning of what? The beginning of creating the physical world, the world that we live in.

which God? The Father and the Son, Jesus Christ.

Why does it read heavenS and not heaven? Our atmosphere is referred to as a "heaven" in the Bible, and space or the universe is also refered to as a "heaven" in the bible. The Bible speaks of 3 things called "heavens". Our sky, outter space, and the spiritual heaven where God lives.

and what is the SPIRIT of God? The Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Orsolja


Holy Spirit???? But what is the Holy Spirit???????????????????????????????????????????????????????​????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Its a merry go round. I know where this leads.

My point in all this is how anyone ever came to accept that the words and language they speak is their own intuition when it is clear you only speak the language prevalent in the region you were born and it is not as if you at a tender age chose to speak the current language you are speaking out of the many out there in the world. And it is amazing that most even have to resort to the dictionary to explain what god supposedly said in his book or did they have the full understand of every vocabulary in the english language at a tender age? Absolutely not. Or did god write the dictionary? So why are they arguing over what they do not know? And this god decides that this is the only way he wants to communicate with his creation is through a book he didn't even grant them the ability to speak and understand all the words therein. Amazing!!!!

Since the words we speak arent a creation of yours, we are no different than monkeys taught how to do a few tricks and all we think we know and the identities and labels we have given ourselves mean absolutely nothing.

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The Bible is as book of prophecy and ministry of Christ.

1. predicted the birth death and resurrection of Jesus Christ

2. talks about what the world will be like before the second coming of Christ.

3. The ministry of Christ
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The beginning of what? The beginning of creating the physical world, the world that we live in.

which God? The Father and the Son, Jesus Christ.

Why does it read heavenS and not heaven? Our atmosphere is referred to as a "heaven" in the Bible, and space or the universe is also refered to as a "heaven" in the bible. The Bible speaks of 3 things called "heavens". Our sky, outter space, and the spiritual heaven where God lives.

and what is the SPIRIT of God? The Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Orsolja


Holy Spirit???? But what is the Holy Spirit???????????????????????????????????????????????????????​????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You mean, WHO is the Holy Spirit. God is made up of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. All 3 make up the Godhead of the universe. The Holy Trinity.
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So basically you don't know what is meant.
This is the usual mumbo jumbo I was talking about.

So the Father and the Son are 2 different PERSONS than what is meant by HOLY SPIRIT???????????
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And Jesus said, today you will be with Me in Paradise.... Hades?
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God said to beware of false teachers....


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