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But, What About The Dinosaurs?

 
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A few problems:

The Bible clearly teaches death and corruption are a consequence of original sin.

Everything was "perfect" before original sin. God would have had no reason to "reform" the material world prior to sin.

The Bible clearly demonstrates that only a few thousand years have elapsed since Day 1.

The only way to make room for millions of years prior to the creation of Man is to insert the gap theory, which brings us back to the circular argument that if you believe the Biblical account, you can't have death before sin.

If you don't believe the Bible clearly on that issue, then why believe anything else. Either Moses and the Prophets and Christ told the truth, or they lied.
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Exactly! I'll never understand how people can write off large and important sections of scripture but still believe Jesus rose from the dead. I've never seen them give logical, consistent arguments for rejecting Creation Week but accepting the Resurrection. Of course, this is not to say that some parts of the Bible make it clear that they are allegories; even Jesus told parables.

As I said earlier, the Bible is a collection of many writings using various genre, and Genesis is not written as a moral tale but as historical fact. The Ten Commandments give a literal creation week as the reason for honoring one day out of seven, and Jesus likened himself to Adam-- so if Adam was fictional, so was Jesus. They can't have it both ways.

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If you would like to read an indepth study about the rebellion of satan and the genesis gap, this is Dr. Luginbill's website here [link to ichthys.com]



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16474268


A few problems:

The Bible clearly teaches death and corruption are a consequence of original sin.

Everything was "perfect" before original sin. God would have had no reason to "reform" the material world prior to sin.

The Bible clearly demonstrates that only a few thousand years have elapsed since Day 1.

The only way to make room for millions of years prior to the creation of Man is to insert the gap theory, which brings us back to the circular argument that if you believe the Biblical account, you can't have death before sin.

If you don't believe the Bible clearly on that issue, then why believe anything else. Either Moses and the Prophets and Christ told the truth, or they lied.


Everything was perfect before Satan sinned, then satan was cast down and corrupted the original earth and the animals (first age).

God destroyed it with ice and darkness.......and recreated it and added mankind (second age). Then man sinned and sin and corruption entered into the world again.

God destroyed it again with the flood......but saved one family to continue the human race (third age). Corruption entered into the world again, and Jesus came and gave us a choice between life and death, a new creation in Christ.

The end of this age is coming to a close, and it will be with fire this time, the final time and the earth will be made new again. "Behold I see a new heavens and new earth, I make all things new"

Read the highlighted link above for a complete study on the topic. There is so much material to cover, I can't do it in one paragraph.
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sorry lisa, so according to your answer on 1. its ok in gods eyes to commit incest. and where did awan come from?

and 2. was this bible written on hearsay can anything be proved that was written in it?
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going to church doesnt make you anymore of a christian as standing in a garage makes you a car.

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Here is puzzle for you.
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And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
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LOL. And what do these people say about those that claim they have been to heaven. Seems god changed his mind or the people are lying or the bible is lying. Which is it?
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Jesus ascended into heaven first, then others could too. Nobody went to heaven before Jesus.

Some people just like to post one verse to try and confuse others when they don't understand what the scripture means.
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So heaven is just 2 thousand plus years old??
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sorry lisa, so according to your answer on 1. its ok in gods eyes to commit incest. and where did awan come from?

and 2. was this bible written on hearsay can anything be proved that was written in it?
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The original family were told by God to marry and reproduce. It's not the same as today as we think of incest. It was permitted at that time so the world could be populated, and their gene pool wasn't contaminated like ours is today.

Awan was Cain's sister, she was born to Adam and Eve.

You can do a google search on the Bible and read alot of info, that would be a completely different topic and a whole thread unto itself.
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And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
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LOL. And what do these people say about those that claim they have been to heaven. Seems god changed his mind or the people are lying or the bible is lying. Which is it?
 Quoting: Ohwell


Jesus ascended into heaven first, then others could too. Nobody went to heaven before Jesus.

Some people just like to post one verse to try and confuse others when they don't understand what the scripture means.
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So heaven is just 2 thousand plus years old??
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No, I never said that. The heaven where God lives had no beginning.

Our atmosphere and solar system did have a beginning when God created it.
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Here is puzzle for you.
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That's not a puzzle, that's just plain old ridiculous.
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Lol modern religion makes me laugh, it keeps making new fables up to justify itself, all to save its dwindling flock. Each year some new doctor (and using the word doctor validates it and makes it real because we should trust doctors) of religion comes up with a new interpretation to fill in a gaping hole in this planets past or a misunderstood text.

The mind control is failing, cut your loses while the going is good greedy men of Religion. Religion is falling like all great empires fall. The human mind is awakening, becoming self aware, it doesnt need guidance and control anymore.

Disappear into your place in the record books of history, leave these free thinking beings alone to find their own path now.
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so if it was ok then to populate the world, and the world is still being populated, how is it being contaminated?
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so if it was ok then to populate the world, and the world is still being populated, how is it being contaminated?
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It was necessary then because they were the only family on the earth. There was no other way, and their gene pool was not a disaster like ours is today.
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sorry lisa, so according to your answer on 1. its ok in gods eyes to commit incest. and where did awan come from?

and 2. was this bible written on hearsay can anything be proved that was written in it?
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The original family were told by God to marry and reproduce. It's not the same as today as we think of incest. It was permitted at that time so the world could be populated, and their gene pool wasn't contaminated like ours is today.

Awan was Cain's sister, she was born to Adam and Eve.

You can do a google search on the Bible and read alot of info, that would be a completely different topic and a whole thread unto itself.
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an interesting comment. i'm curious, our gene pool has been contaminated by whom?
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Many church pastors would have you believe the Behemoth in Job 40 is a hippo. It is a dinosaur with a tail the size of a tree, not the little curly tail that a hippo has.


Job 40

15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
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sorry lisa, so according to your answer on 1. its ok in gods eyes to commit incest. and where did awan come from?

and 2. was this bible written on hearsay can anything be proved that was written in it?
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The original family were told by God to marry and reproduce. It's not the same as today as we think of incest. It was permitted at that time so the world could be populated, and their gene pool wasn't contaminated like ours is today.

Awan was Cain's sister, she was born to Adam and Eve.

You can do a google search on the Bible and read alot of info, that would be a completely different topic and a whole thread unto itself.
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an interesting comment. i'm curious, our gene pool has been contaminated by whom?
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Contaminated by sin and the results of sin. Sin comes in many forms, and it's consequences also come in different forms.
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so your saying if i did a family tree it would be a few thousand feet long with adam and eve at the top?
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so your saying if i did a family tree it would be a few thousand feet long with adam and eve at the top?
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That's correct.
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Hey Lisa I found Ice Age in the Bible, in the The Kebre Negast, the Ethiopion Bible. The Glory of Kings.

8. Concerning the Flood
And this thing was evil before God, and He destroyed them with the water of the Flood, which was colder than ice. He opened the doors of heaven, and the cataracts of the Flood poured down; and He opened the fountains that were under the earth, and the fountains of the Flood appeared on the earth. And the sinners were blotted out, for they reaped the fruit of their punishment. And with them perished all beasts and creeping things, for they were all created for the gratification of ADAM, and for his glory, some p. 6 to provide him with food, and some for his pleasure, and some for the names to the glorification of his Creator so that he might know them, even as DAVID saith, "And Thou hast set everything under his feet";1 for his sake they were created, and for his sake they were destroyed, with the exception of Eight Souls, and seven of every kind of clean beasts and creeping things, and two of every kind of unclean beast and creeping thing.

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No, this ^^ is referring to the flood of Noah's day, the second age.

The Ice age (first age) was before the creation of Adam. It was the age of the dinosaurs.
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Alright, but its almost the same.

I heard Atlantis was created before Adam and Eve. And Atlantis was an Angelic Civiliation but God sunk Atlantis because it was corrupted because of Mis use of Power.
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well lisa i,m sorry, i dont believe anything that cannot be proven, and apart from a book there is no proof adam and eve ever lived.
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well lisa i,m sorry, i dont believe anything that cannot be proven, and apart from a book there is no proof adam and eve ever lived.
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I always get a kick out of people saying they don't believe anything without proof. EVERYONE does that at some point or another. And part of it is because the proof they demand of others is always a lot more rigorous than what they accept for themselves. I'm not saying this because I think we're going to settle the proof issue here and now, but just to point out the obvious. Disbelief is as much a matter of "faith" as belief.
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Hey Lisa I found Ice Age in the Bible, in the The Kebre Negast, the Ethiopion Bible. The Glory of Kings.

8. Concerning the Flood
And this thing was evil before God, and He destroyed them with the water of the Flood, which was colder than ice. He opened the doors of heaven, and the cataracts of the Flood poured down; and He opened the fountains that were under the earth, and the fountains of the Flood appeared on the earth. And the sinners were blotted out, for they reaped the fruit of their punishment. And with them perished all beasts and creeping things, for they were all created for the gratification of ADAM, and for his glory, some p. 6 to provide him with food, and some for his pleasure, and some for the names to the glorification of his Creator so that he might know them, even as DAVID saith, "And Thou hast set everything under his feet";1 for his sake they were created, and for his sake they were destroyed, with the exception of Eight Souls, and seven of every kind of clean beasts and creeping things, and two of every kind of unclean beast and creeping thing.

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No, this ^^ is referring to the flood of Noah's day, the second age.

The Ice age (first age) was before the creation of Adam. It was the age of the dinosaurs.
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Alright, but its almost the same.

I heard Atlantis was created before Adam and Eve. And Atlantis was an Angelic Civiliation but God sunk Atlantis because it was corrupted because of Mis use of Power.
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Yea, I've often wondered if Atlantis ever existed, or not. I don't know. Haven't seen any proof of it in the Bible or any of the OT or NT Apocrypha so, I don't know either way. I tend to disbelieve it if I had to pick one side or the other.

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I haven't read into the links but does it go into the deluge of the lucifer? the destruction of his kingdomo on Mars? The face on Mars and the face on the Sphinx are one and the same THE FACE OF LUCIFER THE ARCHANGEL?

Atlantis,Lemuria,reptilians,the pyramids were all from the time of lucifers earthly kingdom before the fall. All these different creations were in lockstep under their archangel governor of the solar system. When they were destroyed along with him they became the disembodied spirits known today as demons.

The huge canyon across the face of mars was created when a moon sized chunk slammed into it from Tiamat/Rahab lucifers capital planet after it was destroyed by the Godhead.
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well lisa i,m sorry, i dont believe anything that cannot be proven, and apart from a book there is no proof adam and eve ever lived.
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The fact that you and I exist is proof enough for me.
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hummbird The theory of evolution has more holes in it than a colander. If you would like to know more from a biblical point of view.

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well i did not make much sense out of you answer, but i still believe that the bible is the 3rd greatest lie ever told.
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hummbird The theory of evolution has more holes in it than a colander. If you would like to know more from a biblical point of view.

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Yep! +100000

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well i did not make much sense out of you answer, but i still believe that the bible is the 3rd greatest lie ever told.
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Ok, you're free to believe as you wish.

Peace to you.

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[link to www.answersingenesis.org]
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Blood cells and soft-tissue found on T-Rex bones.






Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize the Church of Naturalism (mainstream Academia) is way off on age of dinosaurs, age of Earth, not to mention the woefully inept """theory""" of evolution, but that is another topic in itself..
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I guess I don't understand what you mean. If Jesus was the first one in Heaven, that makes Heaven about 2000 years old. Were did the rest of the people go before Jesus. No where? In Limbo? Waiting in line?

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