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Founder of first Pirate Party argues to legalize child pornography

 
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that part at the start is partly true. Police waste time busting horny bobby at 16 for having sex with his 14 year old classmate. Pretty stupid

they need to go after the real criminals, the guys trading young girls, uploading real pedophila shit, etc


not some teenager who boned a classmate that is a year younger than him. I see it all the time on the news, kinda of stupid

when i was 17 in the 70s, my gf was 15..but that was before all these strange laws we have now
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It isn't illegal in the U.S. for a 15 and 17 year old to have sex. The age of consent in most states is 16, a few southern states may be higher. Adults are classified as 18 and older. Underage 'kids' over the age of consent can legally engage in sexual activity as long as there's no more than a 2 year age difference.
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No way ..totally dont agree here. If you are in possession of some disgusting video of child porn...you must be sick to begin with and society needs protecting from people who find that sick crap arousing....

A lead pill i reckon for all Paedophiles is the answer.....and if you want to watch that crap...you're not much better...
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Videos of robbery, murder, rape, and other things are all over the place. It's not a crime to be a sick fuck.
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Not until you 're being a sick fuck towards little kids who cant fight back...thats something that should NEVER be tolerated.
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I agree. People who molest children should be hanged.
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that part at the start is partly true. Police waste time busting horny bobby at 16 for having sex with his 14 year old classmate. Pretty stupid

they need to go after the real criminals, the guys trading young girls, uploading real pedophila shit, etc


not some teenager who boned a classmate that is a year younger than him. I see it all the time on the news, kinda of stupid

when i was 17 in the 70s, my gf was 15..but that was before all these strange laws we have now
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It isn't illegal in the U.S. for a 15 and 17 year old to have sex. The age of consent in most states is 16, a few southern states may be higher. Adults are classified as 18 and older. Underage 'kids' over the age of consent can legally engage in sexual activity as long as there's no more than a 2 year age difference.
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Sorry, meant to say 14. 14 and over, up to 18, can legally engage in sex with another within a 2 year age range. 18 and 15? rape or statutory rape.
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if our national 'immune system' worked correctly, and we found and tried those guilty of treason and hung them, we could adequately deal with the commie filth and the brown angry cave people who seem to think their women will be the end of them. dude, we WERE America. we're the people that sent macarthur to moscow to tell those pinko's "take one more inch.. and as the military industrial complex as my wittness, we will pretend to try to blow you up, the whole time playing tit for tat with you while the $5,000 suit terrorists take over the globe.

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that part at the start is partly true. Police waste time busting horny bobby at 16 for having sex with his 14 year old classmate. Pretty stupid

they need to go after the real criminals, the guys trading young girls, uploading real pedophila shit, etc


not some teenager who boned a classmate that is a year younger than him. I see it all the time on the news, kinda of stupid

when i was 17 in the 70s, my gf was 15..but that was before all these strange laws we have now
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23406028


It isn't illegal in the U.S. for a 15 and 17 year old to have sex. The age of consent in most states is 16, a few southern states may be higher. Adults are classified as 18 and older. Underage 'kids' over the age of consent can legally engage in sexual activity as long as there's no more than a 2 year age difference.
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age of consent is diffrent in some states


google it..it's 16 here in NV


I for one don't see a problem if say a 17 or 18 year old male engages in sexual activity in highschool with say a 15 or 16 year old class mate


now if its a 40 year old male witha 15 year old..that just is perverse. Should he be excuted, no...charged and jail time yes.

now if the 40 year old does such things with say a 9 year old, he should get life in prison, and chemical castration.
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shoot him.
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i told you guys - they wanna make pedophilia accepted amongst society. its part of the new world order bullshit.
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its a part of the old world order. We're in the new world order now. 18 being the legal age is a product of the current order. Historically it was not a crime.
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WHO EVER WRITTAIN THAT ARTICLE NEED'S GUTTING /..

seriously they need lynching ....

im so fucking done with this devil system ...
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Dude... i do believe in free speech and free data exchange.... But this is just plain wrong. Don't they see that legalizing this kind of porn, they encourage the production of it....

Sometimes I really ask myself what the fuck is wrong with people. Don't they have a sense of reason?
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I cannot believe I'm saying this, but they're right. Possessing a video of an illegal activity shouldn't be illegal, no matter how disgusting. But those who make the videos should be executed.
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So if I happen to possess a dead body I did not kill, I am not somehow an accomplice?
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When the US began to seriously fall apart with all thisd politically correct crap, hate language, uprooting over 200 years of morality IE- gay marriage is legal, and so forth, I said then that it is a matter of time until pedophlias demand their "right" to rape children.
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^^This^^
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When the US began to seriously fall apart with all thisd politically correct crap, hate language, uprooting over 200 years of morality IE- gay marriage is legal, and so forth, I said then that it is a matter of time until pedophlias demand their "right" to rape children.
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^^This^^
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yup and the uk is soon to follow , to the good americans out there plese leave the shit hole your country has become , it is no longer your home ...
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i told you guys - they wanna make pedophilia accepted amongst society. its part of the new world order bullshit.
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Yep, you have said this for a while.
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Some interesting comments posted here but once again, i feel the overall honesty in the article is convoluted or just designed to get under the skin of readers. And it worked.

Isn't the main goal one of depopulation, and who here would disagree with that? Let's face it, our little blue ball has enough cancerous food eaters living already (i include myself of course).

To me in my mind, legalizing child pornography (God forbid) some few years down the road is bound to increase the population if just for the sale of child pornography. Oh dear, can you imagine i imagined that!

So yes, which ever avenue one tends to peek his eyeballs down we seem to be fucked.
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I cannot believe I'm saying this, but they're right. Possessing a video of an illegal activity shouldn't be illegal, no matter how disgusting. But those who make the videos should be executed.
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I see what you're saying but if you possess it, you are creating a market for it.
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Not strictly true. You're only creating a market for something if you buy it. Otherwise illegally downloading music would be benefiting the music producers by creating a market for it, which we know isn't true.
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I cannot believe I'm saying this, but they're right. Possessing a video of an illegal activity shouldn't be illegal, no matter how disgusting. But those who make the videos should be executed.
 Quoting: Jake101


No way ..totally dont agree here. If you are in possession of some disgusting video of child porn...you must be sick to begin with and society needs protecting from people who find that sick crap arousing....

A lead pill i reckon for all Paedophiles is the answer.....and if you want to watch that crap...you're not much better...
 Quoting: taniatarn

The problem with this is, I can slip a tiny flash card loaded up with kiddy porn into your locker, car, home, desk, office or whatever, and then go phone in an anonymous tip. Hell, one could even hack into your computer, load the hard drive up, and then send off an e-mail threatening the president. You would get v& shortly thereafter and the feds would find all the planted kiddy porn on your hard drive.

See the problem?

Oh, and by the way, its five years in federal prison per jpeg.
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i told you guys - they wanna make pedophilia accepted amongst society. its part of the new world order bullshit.
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You are right Senior Phenn, however the NWO has two punching arms, the Right and the Left. Always look for the Right hook to follow the Left jab.

We all agree that pedophilia and its portrayal are wrong. Therefore it is easy to piggyback outrageous rules onto laws which are ostensibly written to prosecute child pornographers.

Soon you will see a thread about a whistle blower being charged and defamed because his wife tweeted a video of him bathing the baby.
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The sick fuckers rich old fuckers in the PTB have been moving our society towards this via our educational system.

Why else would they teach sex ed to a 5 year old?
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i told you guys - they wanna make pedophilia accepted amongst society. its part of the new world order bullshit.
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You are right Senior Phenn, however the NWO has two punching arms, the Right and the Left. Always look for the Right hook to follow the Left jab.

We all agree that pedophilia and its portrayal are wrong. Therefore it is easy to piggyback outrageous rules onto laws which are ostensibly written to prosecute child pornographers.

Soon you will see a thread about a whistle blower being charged and defamed because his wife tweeted a video of him bathing the baby.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


The sick fuckers rich old fuckers in the PTB have been moving our society towards this via our educational system.

Why else would they teach sex ed to a 5 year old?
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I see many knee-jerk reactions in this thread, mostly for good reason. The guy who wrote the article does have a couple of good points though...

So imagine a scenario ten years down the road, as you’re taking a stroll in the park. Your glasses (“mobile phone”) are on, as are mostly everybody else’s. You’re broadcasting and recording what you see in public, as is mostly everybody else, in case a friend drops in on your feed and start chatting about it, or in case you observe something where you need to back up your story later, if you’re so inclined – kind of why people use dashcams in cars and constantly record everything that happens.

So, on your lovely stroll in the park, you turn a corner, and to your shock, see a 12-year-old being brutally raped right in front of you.

WHAM. You are now a criminal, guilty of recording, distributing, and possessing child pornography. You are now guilty of a crime that carries higher penalties than the rape and molestation of a child right taking place right in front of you.


An odd scenario based on Google Glass or similar tech. Think about that bolded part for a second - having a picture of that horrible event is WORSE than performing the event??

How can that be right? Seriously people! I do not condone the sexual abuse of anyone at any age, but how does it make any sense for the act itself to be 'less bad' than having a picture of it??

The title of the article doesn't help. to 'legalize child pornography' makes it seem like it's ok for pedos to do their sick shit. That's not what he's arguing for.

Consider this: suppose the government notices certain forums talking about subjects they don't want examined. They could inject code at the ISP level, or perhaps through the ad servers, to force your computer to display some cp. You are now guilty of a 'very severe crime' and will be dragged away. No one will even try to defend you. In this case you've done nothing wrong but be on the internet.

There is a serious issue there. I fully understand the moral outrage of abuse, especially abuse of children. Making a file illegal, which anyone can inadvertently view on the internet, can and will be abused by tptb.

It’s not illegal to film a murder.
It’s not illegal to possess a film of a murder.
But it’s still illegal to murder people.
And it’s illegal to initiate a murder for the purpose of filming it.
If you have taken part in a murder and have film of it, the film may be usable as proof against you.

I can’t see that Rick suggests anything different here – i.e., I see no suggestions that it should be OK to molest children for the purpose of filming it. That’s good.

In the end it’s as simple as this: it should never be illegal to merely possess information, any information.

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i told you guys - they wanna make pedophilia accepted amongst society. its part of the new world order bullshit.
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You are right Senior Phenn, however the NWO has two punching arms, the Right and the Left. Always look for the Right hook to follow the Left jab.

We all agree that pedophilia and its portrayal are wrong. Therefore it is easy to piggyback outrageous rules onto laws which are ostensibly written to prosecute child pornographers.

Soon you will see a thread about a whistle blower being charged and defamed because his wife tweeted a video of him bathing the baby.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


The sick fuckers rich old fuckers in the PTB have been moving our society towards this via our educational system.

Why else would they teach sex ed to a 5 year old?
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FINALLY!!! SOMEONE IS GETTING DOWN TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM!
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Dude... i do believe in free speech and free data exchange.... But this is just plain wrong. Don't they see that legalizing this kind of porn, they encourage the production of it....

Sometimes I really ask myself what the fuck is wrong with people. Don't they have a sense of reason?
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You don't understand what he's asking. You're the one being unreasonable here. This is not an attempt to make child pornography right. His reasoning is that anyone can be accused of having child pornography very easily and there's no way to prove that you're not. One email and I can make sure you get charged with possession of child pornography.

The problem is, these laws are being used as a weapon against innocent people when they can't find out any easy charges to pin you with. They can ruin your entire life with it, very easily, and good luck trying to find someone to believe you that you didn't do anything.
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Oh and let me add: PLEASE READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE
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Dude... i do believe in free speech and free data exchange.... But this is just plain wrong. Don't they see that legalizing this kind of porn, they encourage the production of it....

Sometimes I really ask myself what the fuck is wrong with people. Don't they have a sense of reason?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


You don't understand what he's asking. You're the one being unreasonable here. This is not an attempt to make child pornography right. His reasoning is that anyone can be accused of having child pornography very easily and there's no way to prove that you're not. One email and I can make sure you get charged with possession of child pornography.

The problem is, these laws are being used as a weapon against innocent people when they can't find out any easy charges to pin you with. They can ruin your entire life with it, very easily, and good luck trying to find someone to believe you that you didn't do anything.
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bucketoftruth

We all know the NSA has backdoors in every version of windows, mac, and [most flavors of] linux. We all know the CIA is intimately involved with google and facebook. They could very, very easily inject a jpeg into your cache without your knowledge. 5 years federal prison where you'll be beaten and raped, and should you survive you'll be stigmatized as a child molester the rest of your life.

Is that right?
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Dude... i do believe in free speech and free data exchange.... But this is just plain wrong. Don't they see that legalizing this kind of porn, they encourage the production of it....

Sometimes I really ask myself what the fuck is wrong with people. Don't they have a sense of reason?
 Quoting: •••Weltschmerz•••


You don't understand what he's asking. You're the one being unreasonable here. This is not an attempt to make child pornography right. His reasoning is that anyone can be accused of having child pornography very easily and there's no way to prove that you're not. One email and I can make sure you get charged with possession of child pornography.

The problem is, these laws are being used as a weapon against innocent people when they can't find out any easy charges to pin you with. They can ruin your entire life with it, very easily, and good luck trying to find someone to believe you that you didn't do anything.
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:bucketoftruth:

We all know the NSA has backdoors in every version of windows, mac, and [most flavors of] linux. We all know the CIA is intimately involved with google and facebook. They could very, very easily inject a jpeg into your cache without your knowledge. 5 years federal prison where you'll be beaten and raped, and should you survive you'll be stigmatized as a child molester the rest of your life.

Is that right?
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Yes pretty much. I can guarantee 99% of you on here have child pornography on your computers right now in your webcache without even knowing about it. It's that fucking easy folks. People have been sent to prison because of web browsers cache.
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i told you guys - they wanna make pedophilia accepted amongst society. its part of the new world order bullshit.
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I cannot believe I'm saying this, but they're right. Possessing a video of an illegal activity shouldn't be illegal, no matter how disgusting. But those who make the videos should be executed.
 Quoting: Jake101


No way ..totally dont agree here. If you are in possession of some disgusting video of child porn...you must be sick to begin with and society needs protecting from people who find that sick crap arousing....

A lead pill i reckon for all Paedophiles is the answer.....and if you want to watch that crap...you're not much better...
 Quoting: taniatarn


Punishing folks for possessing something I don't approve of is facist behaviour. Crimes must have actual victims, otherwise the so-called criminals are the victims. As usual the facists start with those who have few defenders, I even find child porn hounds disgusting.

But it is the same in principle as arresting someone for watching a video on bank robbery, on the theory that he might be planning to rob a bank.

Lately it is a favored way to get rid of opposition politicians. Hack their computers, upload some child porn crap, then arrest them with lots of publicity. Later (usually) the charges are dropped, if the guy resigns or drops out.
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What is with these people and their obsession with pushing their perversion on children? Anyone who supports this should be hanged!
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I cannot believe I'm saying this, but they're right. Possessing a video of an illegal activity shouldn't be illegal, no matter how disgusting. But those who make the videos should be executed.
 Quoting: Jake101


No way ..totally dont agree here. If you are in possession of some disgusting video of child porn...you must be sick to begin with and society needs protecting from people who find that sick crap arousing....

A lead pill i reckon for all Paedophiles is the answer.....and if you want to watch that crap...you're not much better...
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Punishing folks for possessing something I don't approve of is facist behaviour. Crimes must have actual victims, otherwise the so-called criminals are the victims. As usual the facists start with those who have few defenders, I even find child porn hounds disgusting.

But it is the same in principle as arresting someone for watching a video on bank robbery, on the theory that he might be planning to rob a bank.

Lately it is a favored way to get rid of opposition politicians. Hack their computers, upload some child porn crap, then arrest them with lots of publicity. Later (usually) the charges are dropped, if the guy resigns or drops out.
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bump for critical thinking.

Makes you wonder which TPTB agenda tards crying foul at this being another step in the process are actually fascists in religious garments.
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When the US began to seriously fall apart with all thisd politically correct crap, hate language, uprooting over 200 years of morality IE- gay marriage is legal, and so forth, I said then that it is a matter of time until pedophlias demand their "right" to rape children.
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