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BUSTED!! Scientists determine Obama's birth certificate is bogus!

 
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Obama FAIL!

"Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document."

[link to www.wnd.com]
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Obama FAIL!

"Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document."

[link to www.wnd.com]
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Israel?! cruise
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Obama FAIL!

"Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document."

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: WH Resident fraud 23471921


Israel?! cruise
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Science knows no nationality.

If you have a criticism of the forensic science, let us know.

Otherwise your swastika is tilted.
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thatsracist
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.
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well if anyone is qualified to know a fake document it is them.
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:thatsracist:
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ROFL! I know - those damn computers are racists!
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Obama FAIL!

"Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document."

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: WH Resident fraud 23471921


The website says that the White House’s release of the Obama document in April 2011, after years of controversy, “raised in our minds the possibility that there could be something suspicious about the information available on this document.”

The website conducted an independent analysis and cites others who came to the same conclusion.

The website says the publication “of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reigns on the most powerful country of the World.”

Israel Science and Technology explains why, as a site of science and technology, it dedicated “a page to expose forgery about a document related to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama.”

[link to www.wnd.com]
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Everyone knows it's a fake.

Still suggested pin and gave ya 5*
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Everyone knows it's a fake.

Still suggested pin and gave ya 5*
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Thank you.hf

It's a very positive sign to have the opinions of one group be verified by another one using different technology to verify the fraud.
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document analysis kind of requires having posession of the document. maybe you could do some fairly conclusive work with a large format tiff image of it. but a pdf of a jpg?? c'mon, dont piss on my leg and tell me it's raining
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document analysis kind of requires having posession of the document. maybe you could do some fairly conclusive work with a large format tiff image of it. but a pdf of a jpg?? c'mon, dont piss on my leg and tell me it's raining
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited


Wrong.

The forensics starts with the file that was provided. The analysis proves that there is no physical document to be examined! Rather it was a computer creation and nothing more.
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SALVATION IS FROM THE JEW,S
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document analysis kind of requires having posession of the document. maybe you could do some fairly conclusive work with a large format tiff image of it. but a pdf of a jpg?? c'mon, dont piss on my leg and tell me it's raining
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Would u settle for me and a midget and it won't be raining...
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document analysis kind of requires having posession of the document. maybe you could do some fairly conclusive work with a large format tiff image of it. but a pdf of a jpg?? c'mon, dont piss on my leg and tell me it's raining
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited


Wrong.

The forensics starts with the file that was provided. The analysis proves that there is no physical document to be examined! Rather it was a computer creation and nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23471921


no, what it proves is somewhere between real original hardcopy and the 4th or 5th generation compressed and expanded multiple times image was "touched up" somewhere along the way. that could indeed be for obfuscation, but could just as easily be for clarity. there is NO way to tell. the testers conclusions over-reach the evidence. unless you have the original hard copy, or a first generation low compression image of it, all you are reporting on is the image of it that has been reproduced, not the document itself.
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The interwebz called out that photoshop fake the day it was released.
Not intended to be a factual statement.
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document analysis kind of requires having posession of the document. maybe you could do some fairly conclusive work with a large format tiff image of it. but a pdf of a jpg?? c'mon, dont piss on my leg and tell me it's raining
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited


Wrong.

The forensics starts with the file that was provided. The analysis proves that there is no physical document to be examined! Rather it was a computer creation and nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23471921


no, what it proves is somewhere between real original hardcopy and the 4th or 5th generation compressed and expanded multiple times image was "touched up" somewhere along the way. that could indeed be for obfuscation, but could just as easily be for clarity. there is NO way to tell. the testers conclusions over-reach the evidence. unless you have the original hard copy, or a first generation low compression image of it, all you are reporting on is the image of it that has been reproduced, not the document itself.
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited


There is no document. So it would be impossible to test a nonexistent document.

Secondly, once a fraudulent file is presented, the presenter doesn't get a "do over."

That would be like going to the bank and giving them counterfeit $100 bills, getting caught, and then saying, "Oh never mind, let me have those back. Here are some real ones." The police and the courts would not accept a do over in that case either.
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The interwebz called out that photoshop fake the day it was released.
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Yes, they did. As a result, a Sheriff's office also examined it and found it to be a fraud. Of course the office was attacked and smeared.

The new investigated provides important substantiation for Arpaio's team of investigators.
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document analysis kind of requires having posession of the document. maybe you could do some fairly conclusive work with a large format tiff image of it. but a pdf of a jpg?? c'mon, dont piss on my leg and tell me it's raining
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited


Wrong.

The forensics starts with the file that was provided. The analysis proves that there is no physical document to be examined! Rather it was a computer creation and nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23471921


no, what it proves is somewhere between real original hardcopy and the 4th or 5th generation compressed and expanded multiple times image was "touched up" somewhere along the way. that could indeed be for obfuscation, but could just as easily be for clarity. there is NO way to tell. the testers conclusions over-reach the evidence. unless you have the original hard copy, or a first generation low compression image of it, all you are reporting on is the image of it that has been reproduced, not the document itself.
 Quoting: ambiguity unlimited


There is no document. So it would be impossible to test a nonexistent document.

Secondly, once a fraudulent file is presented, the presenter doesn't get a "do over."

That would be like going to the bank and giving them counterfeit $100 bills, getting caught, and then saying, "Oh never mind, let me have those back. Here are some real ones." The police and the courts would not accept a do over in that case either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23471921


This^^^

And quit trolling...as much as you guys want to continue to cloud this issue, it's finally becoming one you cannot refute. Too many folks of merit are finally confirming what most of us have known all along....start planning your life without socialism, wealth redistribution, and other forms of theft via your criminal cabal - cause the whole concept is going to die come November....and then, your whole media complex will soon follow.

And we will hold you ALL accountable.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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It is fake

pigchef
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so easy to manipulate the american people. the bin laden killing, the birth certificate, all BS, you know it the moment you see it. yet everyone's in a dream world
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Now that some critical information from Israel has arisen; the public will suddenly become more aware of it.tp
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Never needed a scientist for that.
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so easy to manipulate the american people. the bin laden killing, the birth certificate, all BS, you know it the moment you see it. yet everyone's in a dream world
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This world is seriously one fucked up place. The criminals are in charge just about everywhere you look.
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Hell, everyone knows the damn BC is forged, but no one will do anything about it. Give the negroe a pass, he can go by different rules!
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didnt take a scientist to figure that one out. The sad thing is we do NOTHING about it.
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Sheriff Joe's been saying this for months..

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ADMIT IT.....WERE FUCKED!!!

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Look for the admin. to come out and leave the jewish people hangin in the wind over Iran... Just sayn..
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Obama FAIL!

"Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document."

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: WH Resident fraud 23471921


The website says that the White House’s release of the Obama document in April 2011, after years of controversy, “raised in our minds the possibility that there could be something suspicious about the information available on this document.”

The website conducted an independent analysis and cites others who came to the same conclusion.

The website says the publication “of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reigns on the most powerful country of the World.”

Israel Science and Technology explains why, as a site of science and technology, it dedicated “a page to expose forgery about a document related to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama.”

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23471921

The blatantly fake document was specifically intended to get the "birthers" all exercised, keep them busy, and make them look foolish at some future point when his team decide to release his real information. It was done to play them and score points, if circumstances do not allow them to declare a state of emergency to forestall the next election.
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I've been on the fence about this issue.....BUT maybe Obama knew this was coming? Explains his treatment of Israel. The fallout may prove very interesting...
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Obama FAIL!

"Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document."

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 Quoting: WH Resident fraud 23471921


Whitehouse lawyers have already admitted it was fake in court.

They represented Obama in court trying to get him on the election ballet in one state (forgot which one) where the birth certificate was used by the plaintiffs as evidence.

His lawyers simply stated that the birth certificate by itself cannot be used as evidence to dismiss Obama's eligibilty because...it has already been determined to be a fraudulent document.

By admitting it was a fraud, Obama lawyers cleared the path to remove it as evidence against his bid to be on that state's ballot.

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