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WW3 already began says former Israel spy chief

 
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Halevy first learned this on GLP.
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Six hours pinned to rack up a first page?
We must all be suffering from "combat fatigue"
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Like, tell me something I didn't know! Duh! Asymetric warfare is ongoing, and it began on 9/11 when Donald Rumsfeld proclaimed the world to be in a state of "perpetual war"! Weapons in this 3rd world war are not the typical guns and bombs, though these are still used. Modern weapons include the ability to "Own the Weather", and use it to enhance global military operations, in ANY region, domestically, or internationally. They can bring "fire down from the heavens in the sight of men"! Fire is another word for LIGHTNING!
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In short, the clash of civilizations. That's what the PNAC ( [link to www.newamericancentury.org] Neo-Cons and hardline Israelis wanted to sell the whole world just to get their grubby hands on land (for military bases) and oil (for profit) by applying just-in-time, on-demand bloodshed.

Don't be fooled by their pseudo-intellectual rhetoric. The only clash of civilizations between the "west" and muslims is a manufactured one.

Iraq and Afghanistan weren't quite the cakewalk they expected and the public support for the war was much less enthusiastic than the hoped for. They're running late, but they're still working on it.

The PNAC plan ( [link to www.newamericancentury.org] that US and allies should confront Iraq and then focus on effecting regime change in Syria and Iran since they're a threat to the US. Check it out - it's in PNAC publications. It's all in public and, although they're late in implementing the plan, they're still pushing for it step by step.

Wake up! The script was written a long time ago by these ruthless and greedy maniacs, and they're just playing it out now. Why are you still eating up all the lies about the existential threat posed by Islam when you can see with your own eyes that each stage of the conflict was clearly pre-planned?

The crisis over Iran's nuclear weapons that don't and won't exist for a long time (as confirmed by dozens of US intelligence agencies: [link to www.nytimes.com] is just as manufactured a lie as the crisis over Saddam's nukes that would supposedly be ready for attack in 45 minutes ( [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

All those buckets of blood for barrels of oil. Shameful!
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Not just oil, but yeah, a lot of it has to do with material wealth, definitely. THats the incentive, but the religious side of it is just the easiest leverage for provocation.
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Having written a book on Nostradamus' prophecies of World War III I can say that he spoke of a war between Islam and the West that would last 27 years, and be well underway by 2002. I believe the 27 years are 1991 to 2018. It isn't as obvious as WWI or WWII with formal declarations of war, but we use different words today. Generations ago no one was blatant enough to try all the propaganda about peacekeepers and freedom fighters and democracy.
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Any idea who Mabus or the guy in the blue turban might be?
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I think WW3 began in 1991
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This^ And it's a war between psychopaths in power and humantiy.
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I would agree with this statement as well.
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Mossad BS.
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The sad thing is, there really is a "clash of civilizations" happening.

Islam really is slowly genociding minorities in the lands it controls.

Muslim immigrants really are taking over Europe. Their numbers really are growing throughout Asia and the Americas.

As they reach critical population mass, they really do use strong-arm tactics, infiltration, intimidation, and cold-blooded murder to subjugate the non-Muslim population as they rise to power.

But here's the REALLY sad thing. The Western interests that want us to view them as "holding back Islam" or "fighting terror" are just exploiting the situation to increase their wealth and power.

They are commiting their militaries to useless ground wars to profit from arms production and drug trafficking. They are turning their societies into Orwellian police states just so they can maintain power while they suck them dry. And, worst of all, they are actively helping the most strident, cruel, and terroristic forces of Islam take power in throughout the Middle East and the world for the sake of short-term profit.
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Just trying to stir up support for action on Iran and the Gaza.
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FOR THOSE OF YOU ASSES OUT THERE AND FOR WHO IS HERE TO LIE AND DO NOT EVER WANT TO SEE THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM.

MUSLIM TERRORIST HAVE BEEN AROUND LONG BEFORE THE US WAS AROUND. BUT EVERYONE WANTS TO THINK THAT WE ARE THE REASON IT STARTED AND ALL BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE DONT WANT TO SEE THE TRUTH. Or are just spreeding PROBAGANDA to try and get as many people on your side.

But no matter how much evedince you are showed you will never believe.

The view that Islamic terrorism predates U.S. action and is justified by Quranic teachings
March 18, 1786 letter written by Thomas Jefferson and John Adams describing their diplomatic initiative with Tripoli.An alternative argument is that anti-American terrorism predated the rise of the United States as a global power and is justified by the Quran. This is exemplified by the events leading to the First Barbary War. Muslim pirates of Algiers, Morocco, Tunis, and Tripoli Barbary Coast had attacked, enslaved and held American merchant sailors for ransom, soon after the establishment of the United States of America in 1776 (see First Barbary War). These terrorist-type attacks predated any U.S. involvement in the Islamic world and occurred before the US had been involved in any overseas military action. In 1786, future U.S. Presidents Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman in an attempt to negotiate an end to the piracy. Adams and Jefferson summarized their meeting in a letter dated March 28, 1786 to John Jay, the United States Secretary of Foreign Affairs:

"We took the liberty to make some enquiries concerning the ground of their pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. The Ambassador [of Tripoli] answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (muslims) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise."[20]
These diplomatic engagements suggest that a modern Jihad-like ideology existed prior to any U.S. involvement in the Islamic world, and that the Koran was used to justify this ideology.

Thus, according to critics of Islam, Islamic terrorism is linked to the practice of divinely sanctioned warfare against apostates.[21][22] Many Muslim groups including the Council on American-Islamic Relations argue that references to violence in Muslim sources have been taken out of context.[23][24][25] They argue that these Koranic ayahs are only for self-defense when non-believers endanger Muslim life. While a debate may exist on the proper interpretation of Koranic verses, the terrorist actions leading to the First Barbary War and the justification provided by Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, provide an early example where the Koran was used to justify anti-American terrorism. These events occurred at a time where the U.S. had yet to intervene in the Muslim world and argue against U.S. policy as a fundamental cause of Islamic terrorism. On the contrary, the historical timeline referenced herein demonstrates that the very first U.S. engagement with the Muslim world was an American response to Islamic terrorism.[20]
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He should know. He started WW3 on 9/11
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Here is another one for you guys who think Jewish people start everything.

During the 1st century AD, the Jewish Zealots in Judaea Province rebelled, killing prominent collaborators with Roman rule.[15][18][19] In 6 CE, according to contemporary historian Josephus, Judas of Galilee formed a small and more extreme offshoot of the Zealots, the Sicarii ("dagger men").[20] Their efforts also directed against Jewish "collaborators," including temple priests, Sadducees, Herodians, and other wealthy elites.[21] According to Josephus, the Sicarii would hide short daggers under their cloaks, mingle with crowds at large festivals, murder their victims, and then disappear into the panicked crowds. Their most successful assassination was of the high priest Jonathan.[20]

In the late 11th century AD, the Hashshashin (a.k.a. the Assassins) arose, an offshoot of the Ismā'īlī sect of Shia Muslims.[22] Led by Hassan-i Sabbah and opposed to Fatimid rule, the Hashshashin militia seized Alamut and other fortress strongholds across Persia.[23] Hashshashin forces were too small to challenge enemies militarily, so they assassinated city governors and military commanders in order to create alliances with militarily powerful neighbors. For example, they killed Janah al-Dawla, ruler of Homs, to please Ridwan of Aleppo, and assassinated Mawdud, Seljuk emir of Mosul, as a favor to the regent of Damascus.[24] The Hashshashin also carried out assassinations as retribution.[25] Under some definitions of terrorism, such assassinations do not qualify as terrorism, since killing a political leader does not intimidate political enemies or inspire revolt.[15][20][26]
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This original story is from Jan 2007.

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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Having written a book on Nostradamus' prophecies of World War III I can say that he spoke of a war between Islam and the West that would last 27 years, and be well underway by 2002. I believe the 27 years are 1991 to 2018. It isn't as obvious as WWI or WWII with formal declarations of war, but we use different words today. Generations ago no one was blatant enough to try all the propaganda about peacekeepers and freedom fighters and democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22454667




1993 - 2020


Battle of Mogadishu (1993)

The Battle of Mogadishu (more commonly referred to as Black Hawk Down or, for Somalis, the Day of the Rangers (Somali: Maalintii Rangers) was part of Operation Gothic Serpent and was fought on October 3 and 4, 1993, in Mogadishu, Somalia, between forces of the United States, supported by UNOSOM II, and Somali militia fighters loyal to the self-proclaimed president-to-be Mohamed Farrah Aidid who had support from armed civilian fighters.
A U.S. Army force in Mogadishu, consisting primarily of US Army Rangers from 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment; C Squadron, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D), better known as "Delta Force"; and helicopters from 1st Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, attempted to seize two of Aidid's high-echelon lieutenants during a meeting in the city. Shortly after the assault began, Somali militia and armed civilian fighters managed to down two MH-60 Black Hawks over the city. The subsequent rescue operation to secure and recover the crews of both helicopters drew the raid, intended to last no more than an hour, into an overnight standoff in the city. The battle resulted in approximately 20 deaths, 80 wounded, and 1 helicopter pilot captured amongst the raid party and rescue forces, including Pakistani and Malaysian troops. US sources estimate between 1,500 and 3,000 Somali casualties, including civilians; SNA forces claim only 315 casualties, with 812 wounded.

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^ i believe future historians will refer to that as the start of WW3.

WW3 will eventually spike in a conflict between Russia and the USA, and their allies, and then wind down from there.
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I'm not a religious person but it is pretty obvious that we are living in a special time.. To those of us that are awake, doesn't It seem like we are living in a Cartoon land??.. Everything is at polar opposite so we are always forced into conflict.. Hopefully towards the end of the year more and more people will realize what is going on and I hope we can all fight against these injustices together! And try to bring something good to the world for once.
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that's what it seems like to me, like I'm living in a cheap B movie.

The war is one thing, the other thing i cant stand is the perverse immoral culture, the rabid open hate for Christianity, people bragging about being low lifes see Kardashians, etc....

post WW3 things will finally go back to normal,
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Having written a book on Nostradamus' prophecies of World War III I can say that he spoke of a war between Islam and the West that would last 27 years, and be well underway by 2002. I believe the 27 years are 1991 to 2018. It isn't as obvious as WWI or WWII with formal declarations of war, but we use different words today. Generations ago no one was blatant enough to try all the propaganda about peacekeepers and freedom fighters and democracy.
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Any idea who Mabus or the guy in the blue turban might be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21601347


Turban=Arab, Turban=traditional=NOT West friend

*Blue* Turban, blue is the color of Tuaregs [link to 3.bp.blogspot.com]

Possibly a arab leader from Libya

About Mabus, lets say you know who is he, what you will do
about it? :)
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Having written a book on Nostradamus' prophecies of World War III I can say that he spoke of a war between Islam and the West that would last 27 years, and be well underway by 2002. I believe the 27 years are 1991 to 2018. It isn't as obvious as WWI or WWII with formal declarations of war, but we use different words today. Generations ago no one was blatant enough to try all the propaganda about peacekeepers and freedom fighters and democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22454667


Any idea who Mabus or the guy in the blue turban might be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21601347


Turban=Arab, Turban=traditional=NOT West friend

*Blue* Turban, blue is the color of Tuaregs [link to 3.bp.blogspot.com]

Possibly a arab leader from Libya

About Mabus, lets say you know who is he, what you will do
about it? :)
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One of the Mossad agents will photoshop a picture of Amadinijad wearing a blue turban, and nothing will be able to stop the Crusades v.2.0 then.
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

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mabus=Mohammad Abbas the Palestinian leader.the Palestinians problem is the only thing all the muslem country's agree on.he is the only person alive today who could unite them
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I think WW3 began in 1991
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No it was 1998... no wait... 2001. Or perhaps 1989?
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mabus=Mohammad Abbas the Palestinian leader.the Palestinians problem is the only thing all the muslem country's agree on.he is the only person alive today who could unite them
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Raymond Edwin "Ray" Mabus, Jr. (born October 11, 1948) is the 75th United States Secretary of the Navy. Mabus served as the 60th Governor of the U.S. state of Mississippi from 1988 to 1992 and as United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia from 1994 to 1996.

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Having written a book on Nostradamus' prophecies of World War III I can say that he spoke of a war between Islam and the West that would last 27 years, and be well underway by 2002. I believe the 27 years are 1991 to 2018. It isn't as obvious as WWI or WWII with formal declarations of war, but we use different words today. Generations ago no one was blatant enough to try all the propaganda about peacekeepers and freedom fighters and democracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22454667


Any idea who Mabus or the guy in the blue turban might be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21601347


Turban=Arab, Turban=traditional=NOT West friend

*Blue* Turban, blue is the color of Tuaregs [link to 3.bp.blogspot.com]

Possibly a arab leader from Libya

About Mabus, lets say you know who is he, what you will do
about it? :)
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One of the Mossad agents will photoshop a picture of Amadinijad wearing a blue turban, and nothing will be able to stop the Crusades v.2.0 then.
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it is coming, anyway

from the time muslims have been suckered to kill unprotected christians inside muslim countries, the war
have start already

nothing can stop it, staged or not, who cares,
no one wants a blood thirsty religion

this is a big success of israeli foreign policy who will drive EU and USA in a religion WWIII fighting for him and
will finish with a israeli empire sacrificing Usa and EU
(already financially dead bodies ready to follow orders for
food). Very clever indeed.
(at least, thats the plan).
To succeed.., thats another story.
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No Our Lady destroys Rome first and then it's WW3
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I'm not a religious person but it is pretty obvious that we are living in a special time.. To those of us that are awake, doesn't It seem like we are living in a Cartoon land??.. Everything is at polar opposite so we are always forced into conflict.. Hopefully towards the end of the year more and more people will realize what is going on and I hope we can all fight against these injustices together! And try to bring something good to the world for once.
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Exactly so letting your emotions take you to one of these polar makes you complicit. To "fight" the system is to become the system.
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the bible did not predict these were the end times, they described them.

we are making these the end times, some religious lunatics who run our countries are making this come to pass, exactly how it is meant to, why & for what reason who knows..?
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For the Iranian's. It's to bring the Mahdi out the well. research twelver's.
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Didn't WWW3 begin when Capt. John Birch was murdered in China by Mao's commies dudes with the aid of American federal gooberment policies that turned their back on Chiang Kai-shek leaving him to flee to Taiwan after all but guaranteeing military support against Mao take over?

Makes like an unbelievable tale.
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Having written a book on Nostradamus' prophecies of World War III I can say that he spoke of a war between Islam and the West that would last 27 years, and be well underway by 2002. I believe the 27 years are 1991 to 2018. It isn't as obvious as WWI or WWII with formal declarations of war, but we use different words today. Generations ago no one was blatant enough to try all the propaganda about peacekeepers and freedom fighters and democracy.
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Any idea who Mabus or the guy in the blue turban might be?
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the 12 iman jihad
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ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING that the Mossad or CIA says is a lie. PERIOD.

Just trying to stir up frictions and fear.
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Looks like the neocons are still at it, creating their own reality.

When it comes, it needs to come to the ones who want it and profit from it.
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What looks like is gonna happen to me is that Obama is going to keep the US from helping Israel. Then Israel will take on the attack themselves or wait and be attacked. It will be one or the other undoubtedly. In either case, if Israel starts to get its ass kicked, then America will form a coalition to go in a clean house, like Iraq/Kuwait.

Then what? will the Muslim nations join forces and start WWIII, or will the retreat? My guess is retreat. These dumb asses always act real tough, but once the US steps in, it's game over. Then they all start waving white flags like pussies, so they can turn to gorilla warfare and hide amongst the normal population.
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Nope..it's just wishful thinking on the part of the Israeli's...bsflag
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this
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ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING that the Mossad or CIA says is a lie. PERIOD.

Just trying to stir up frictions and fear.
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ohyeah




"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"


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I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

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I'm not a religious person but it is pretty obvious that we are living in a special time.. To those of us that are awake, doesn't It seem like we are living in a Cartoon land??.. Everything is at polar opposite so we are always forced into conflict.. Hopefully towards the end of the year more and more people will realize what is going on and I hope we can all fight against these injustices together! And try to bring something good to the world for once.
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Your post is a strange mix of realism and optimism..
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I feel the exact same way that he does. We cant keep letting it get to us and soon ill be going back to watching the news (i know i know SHEEP!)And but at the same time, family is all that matters.

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