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a plane did not hit the pentagon period!!!!

 
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Don't forget that there are about 500 airline pilots with decades of commercial experience and tens of thousands of flight hours who all said it is and was impossible for an airliner to hit the Pentagon at that altitude and angle of approach. IMPOSSIBLE. That means the alleged manuever was beyond the arodynamic capabilities of the jet AND the supposed pilot. It did not happen.

Anyway none of that matters. The only thing that matters is the COLLAPSE OF BUILDING NUMBER 7. All you need is THE COLLAPSE OF
BUILDING NUMBER 7 to blow the fricking doors off the entire bullshit "investigation".

911 is NOT a conspiracy. It is OBVIOUS TO SEE for anyone with even a single IQ point to their name and the slightest bit of bravery to face the facts.

Please tell me, who among you can deny building number 7? Who? Nobody is seriously that stupid.
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Not saying yes or no to this whole idea, but think this statement is bs. The pentagon is at ground level, so it would just be like coming in at a extremely fast speed.bsflag
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Odd how I just watched people who were at the scene and clearly observed an American Airlines jet strike the building being interviewed. But you conspiracy tards have to have your conspiracy no matter how many witnesses come forward right?
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no thats not true in fact one of the first things the secret service did was confiscate all video surveillance of the pentagon attack, there are plenty of pilots that have stated some of the best pilots in the world couldnt pull off the maneuvering required to do what the media is claiming. Plain and simple commercial airliners are big and cannot be flown like a stunt plane. I think you need to do some fact checking sir because all the witnesses saw an EXPLOSION and last time i checked an explosion is not a plane. You could also get into the one video thats been released of this and the plane was inserted into the video and this has been proven because when you slow the video down the image of the plane doesnt move then in a few frames it just shows the explosion so if a plane hit the pentagon then id love to know how considering it wasnt moving at all in the video...did the plane just park in front then explode? lmao and also as everyone knows now there was no damage from the wingspan CASE CLOSED
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You sir, are a complete idiot.

One star.
Belief Does Not Equal Reality

Its not that conspiracy theorists are ignorant. It's that so much of what they know to be true is wrong.

Sometimes the truth sounds like an insult when you are not use to hearing it.

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Don't forget that there are about 500 airline pilots with decades of commercial experience and tens of thousands of flight hours who all said it is and was impossible for an airliner to hit the Pentagon at that altitude and angle of approach. IMPOSSIBLE. That means the alleged manuever was beyond the arodynamic capabilities of the jet AND the supposed pilot. It did not happen.

Anyway none of that matters. The only thing that matters is the COLLAPSE OF BUILDING NUMBER 7. All you need is THE COLLAPSE OF
BUILDING NUMBER 7 to blow the fricking doors off the entire bullshit "investigation".

911 is NOT a conspiracy. It is OBVIOUS TO SEE for anyone with even a single IQ point to their name and the slightest bit of bravery to face the facts.

Please tell me, who among you can deny building number 7? Who? Nobody is seriously that stupid.
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Not saying yes or no to this whole idea, but think this statement is bs. The pentagon is at ground level, so it would just be like coming in at a extremely fast speed.bsflag
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Spoken like a idiot that knows nothing about the flight characteristics of airliners. Too fast or to slow at any given height(air density)they loose lift and stop flying and start crashing.

If professionally trained pilots can't recreate the flight in a simulator,doesn't mean that a guy only trained in a single engine small aircraft can't do it.
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You sir, are a complete idiot.

One star.
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normal GLP'er - I think a plane did hit the pentagon because....

Shill - You are an idiot and this somehow makes me feel like ive proved something
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Doubting a Government report is proof of mental illness.
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Just because politicians or their appointees have been charged and jailed for conspiracies doesn't mean that they are real or ever have or will happen.
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Just because politicians or their appointees have been charged and jailed for conspiracies doesn't mean that they are real or ever have or will happen.
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You HAVE to pass the bong bro, don't be greedy now, share.
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SWEET. I just got my license to fly a single engine small aircraft. I can now fly any airliner better than a pilot that has flown one for years.
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The Pentagon is most likely one of the most security laidened building on the planet.
There would be more cameras pointing at that building than anyone would imagine. The only video footage we have seen is a bull shit view from some auto camera on a parking lot gate.
Bull Shit, Bull Shit.
The reason we do not see any other footage is because it was not an air plane.
Big load of BS. It was not a Plane.
If it was a plane we would have seen multiple videos from hundreds of cameras.

Last Edited by johnj on 09/11/2012 07:56 PM
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I personally don't recall ever seeing at least a seat or even part of the fuselage in any after photos...can anyone find this evidence? OP may be right...
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Just because politicians or their appointees have been charged and jailed for conspiracies doesn't mean that they are real or ever have or will happen.
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You HAVE to pass the bong bro, don't be greedy now, share.
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Sorry,can't do it. I am smoking the pure thoughtless drug of patriotism. You can only indulge once you throw away common sense. You are either with us or against us. There is no middle ground or room for thought. It is our way or the highway. Just because America has over thrown righteously elected Governments that wont play ball with the Corporations that bought American politicians doesn't mean we have a bad system.
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Just because politicians or their appointees have been charged and jailed for conspiracies doesn't mean that they are real or ever have or will happen.
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You HAVE to pass the bong bro, don't be greedy now, share.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Sorry,can't do it. I am smoking the pure thoughtless drug of patriotism. You can only indulge once you throw away common sense. You are either with us or against us. There is no middle ground or room for thought. It is our way or the highway. Just because America has over thrown righteously elected Governments that wont play ball with the Corporations that bought American politicians doesn't mean we have a bad system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1308462


Wow, I must have caught a contact buzz, 'cause some of that actually made some sense. You mean the military industrial complex that sends our young men and women around the globe to fight and die for corporate profits, you are against that? I have always been a Teddy Roosevelt isolationist myself. But frankly I do not see our current government being patriotic but socialist or communist, something like that perhaps, but certainly not patriotic. Please, talk to me.
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Just because politicians or their appointees have been charged and jailed for conspiracies doesn't mean that they are real or ever have or will happen.
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You HAVE to pass the bong bro, don't be greedy now, share.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Sorry,can't do it. I am smoking the pure thoughtless drug of patriotism. You can only indulge once you throw away common sense. You are either with us or against us. There is no middle ground or room for thought. It is our way or the highway. Just because America has over thrown righteously elected Governments that wont play ball with the Corporations that bought American politicians doesn't mean we have a bad system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1308462


Wow, I must have caught a contact buzz, 'cause some of that actually made some sense. You mean the military industrial complex that sends our young men and women around the globe to fight and die for corporate profits, you are against that? I have always been a Teddy Roosevelt isolationist myself. But frankly I do not see our current government being patriotic but socialist or communist, something like that perhaps, but certainly not patriotic. Please, talk to me.
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What America does internally and externally are and have been two separate things. After the Spanish American war the Philippians actually they would have a free country because America is all about freedom. WRONG. Americas military is the fighting force of the elite that run the world. The best slave is one that thinks he or she is free.
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You HAVE to pass the bong bro, don't be greedy now, share.
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Sorry,can't do it. I am smoking the pure thoughtless drug of patriotism. You can only indulge once you throw away common sense. You are either with us or against us. There is no middle ground or room for thought. It is our way or the highway. Just because America has over thrown righteously elected Governments that wont play ball with the Corporations that bought American politicians doesn't mean we have a bad system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1308462


Wow, I must have caught a contact buzz, 'cause some of that actually made some sense. You mean the military industrial complex that sends our young men and women around the globe to fight and die for corporate profits, you are against that? I have always been a Teddy Roosevelt isolationist myself. But frankly I do not see our current government being patriotic but socialist or communist, something like that perhaps, but certainly not patriotic. Please, talk to me.
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What America does internally and externally are and have been two separate things. After the Spanish American war the Philippians actually THOUGHT they would have a free country because America is all about freedom. WRONG. Americas military is the fighting force of the elite that run the world. The best slave is one that thinks he or she is free.
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Well I am pretty sure if there were a couple of Hijackers with nothing but damn 'box cutters' that there would be a couple of big boys or martial artist on board that would over take the 'terrorist'followed by a few dozed followers.

I guess we Americans are a bunch of cowards to let a couple radicals and box cutters take down three buildings.

The official story is bullshit and you know it. As far as the details of the tactics that were used, guess common sense will give you the clues.


Who did it? doubt it was box cutters.
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Toughest American ever!bump
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All the evidence is there,a plane Hit the pentagon
You retards are blinded by your stupid Conspericy fantasy..

It's time for another YouTube video..putin
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Where's the plane wreckage? Hell, even the Lockerbie plane, which fell 38,000 feet, had wreckage... To many douche nipples on this board...

Either a tomahawk or harpoon hit the building... There also was no wreckage in Pennsylvania. Why are people so fucking stupid?tomato
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Good god what bunch of jack leg idiots. Lockerbie was brought down by a bomb....the reason there was a huge debrie field. All the planes on 911were intact and traveling at high speed on impact.....not much left.
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All the evidence is there,a plane Hit the pentagon
You retards are blinded by your stupid Conspericy fantasy..

It's time for another YouTube video..putin
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Where's the plane wreckage? Hell, even the Lockerbie plane, which fell 38,000 feet, had wreckage... To many douche nipples on this board...

Either a tomahawk or harpoon hit the building... There also was no wreckage in Pennsylvania. Why are people so fucking stupid?tomato
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Good god what bunch of jack leg idiots. Lockerbie was brought down by a bomb....the reason there was a huge debrie field. All the planes on 911were intact and traveling at high speed on impact.....not much left.
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Correct. When Airliners crash at high speed there is nothing left of the airplane. Forget about all the airplanes that are put back together for analyses. That never happened.
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A plane did not hit the pentagon. It's incontrovertible.

And planes did not bring down the twin towers. That's absurd. They definitely did not bring down building number 7.

For christ's sake people look at building number 7. #7 is the litmus test for people. This is where you can determine if you are mentally sound and in control of your own thoughts or if you are a brainwashed manchurian coward controlled like a retarded little puppet on a string.

Building seven was a 30 story sky scraper. It was undamaged. There was no structural damage to it. It was blocks away from the twin towers with many other buildings in between it and the towers. Building number 7, a sky scraper, fell down and collapsed into a pile of rubble at the same speed as if you dropped a brick from the top of some other building.

If you think for a second that planes hitting other buildings blocks away had anything at all to do with #7 then you are the sheeple. You are the problem. Building #7 is undeniable and incontrovertible proof that 911 was certainly an inside job. There is no question. There are only moral cowards in denial.
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People like you do not help truthers at all! please get your facts straight, once people see that you lied about 1 'fact' then they won't take anything you say seriously!!

or is that your plan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23224868


911 was an inside job. That is what truthers are trying to get the sheeple to believe.

Please point out exactly what I said was wrong. Everything I stated above is factual. You are a shill.
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...if you start from a false premise, you generally reach a wrong conclusion..for example, building 7 suffered NO damage..well it suffered massive damage and was in flames..well according to FDNY ...I know, all liars, CIA...
Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years

Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
[link to www.firehouse.com]
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Perhaps we listened to fire fighters who said it live. Multiple explosions boom boom boom boom. I just wonder if it was because the damage on 1 side of the building, why didn't it collapse like the pentagon, falling sideways then straight down?
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All the evidence is there,a plane Hit the pentagon
You retards are blinded by your stupid Conspericy fantasy..

It's time for another YouTube video..putin
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Where's the plane wreckage? Hell, even the Lockerbie plane, which fell 38,000 feet, had wreckage... To many douche nipples on this board...

Either a tomahawk or harpoon hit the building... There also was no wreckage in Pennsylvania. Why are people so fucking stupid?tomato
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Good god what bunch of jack leg idiots. Lockerbie was brought down by a bomb....the reason there was a huge debrie field. All the planes on 911were intact and traveling at high speed on impact.....not much left.
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yeah thats completely idiotic and the black boxes are almost always found, even first responders were suprised by the lack of wreckage, this is just another bias opinion which disregards logic...far too much of that on here these days
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The Pentagon is most likely one of the most security laidened building on the planet.
There would be more cameras pointing at that building than anyone would imagine. The only video footage we have seen is a bull shit view from some auto camera on a parking lot gate.
Bull Shit, Bull Shit.
The reason we do not see any other footage is because it was not an air plane.
Big load of BS. It was not a Plane.
If it was a plane we would have seen multiple videos from hundreds of cameras.
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Warning : The post above may be pure speculation.
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SWEET. I just got my license to fly a single engine small aircraft. I can now fly any airliner better than a pilot that has flown one for years.
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...well if another pilot took off and you took the controls, with some training in autopilot and radios...you should not have any real problems..you can't land but landing was never part of the plan, so you can turn the yoke and step on the rudder pedals and keep it level and either enter a way point OR follow a heading...yea you could do it..every 747 pilot I ever spoke with said it handled like a heavy Cessna 172...all the harder parts of flight, rotation speeds for weight/balance air temp, flap speeds, gear up/down never had to be mastered...I'm sure you could point your Piper to hit a 110 story building or the Pentagon...the exact same skill would be needed on a 757, left-right.nose up/down...rudder pedals...and throttle...speeds and systems change, not basic flight...
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Without taking a stance on whether a commercial airliner or a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11, I have just one question...


[link to 911research.wtc7.net]

The graphic design demonstration (22:45 to 24:18) within the larger video below is from the American Society of Civil Engineers in their January 2003 report, "The Pentagon Building Performance Report. Notice what they, the American Society of Civiil Engineers, show what would happen to the airplane as it smashed into the Pentagon and its many support columns.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Keeping this in mind, again I ask: How could a commercial airliner's nose cone retain its structural integrity to crash through 3 rings of the Pentagon, including the recently reinforced outer wall of the outer ring (E ring) and the support columns within the Pentagon's infrastructure and leave a nearly perfectly circular "punchout" hole in the Pentagon's 3 ring (3rd ring in)?

This question is for anyone and everyone, including Ryan Dawson.

What would be able to accomplish the above feat is a missile, which is specifically designed to achieve maximum penetration of its intended target.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Without taking a stance on whether a commercial airliner or a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11, I have just one question...


[link to 911research.wtc7.net]

The graphic design demonstration (22:45 to 24:18) within the larger video below is from the American Society of Civil Engineers in their January 2003 report, "The Pentagon Building Performance Report. Notice what they, the American Society of Civiil Engineers, show what would happen to the airplane as it smashed into the Pentagon and its many support columns.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Keeping this in mind, again I ask: How could a commercial airliner's nose cone retain its structural integrity to crash through 3 rings of the Pentagon, including the recently reinforced outer wall of the outer ring (E ring) and the support columns within the Pentagon's infrastructure and leave a nearly perfectly circular "punchout" hole in the Pentagon's 3 ring (3rd ring in)?

This question is for anyone and everyone, including Ryan Dawson.

What would be able to accomplish the above feat is a missile, which is specifically designed to achieve maximum penetration of its intended target.
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Correction: C ring, rather.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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bump
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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People like you do not help truthers at all! please get your facts straight, once people see that you lied about 1 'fact' then they won't take anything you say seriously!!

or is that your plan?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23224868


911 was an inside job. That is what truthers are trying to get the sheeple to believe.

Please point out exactly what I said was wrong. Everything I stated above is factual. You are a shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22161083


...if you start from a false premise, you generally reach a wrong conclusion..for example, building 7 suffered NO damage..well it suffered massive damage and was in flames..well according to FDNY ...I know, all liars, CIA...
Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years

Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
[link to www.firehouse.com]
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Perhaps we listened to fire fighters who said it live. Multiple explosions boom boom boom boom. I just wonder if it was because the damage on 1 side of the building, why didn't it collapse like the pentagon, falling sideways then straight down?
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..the man said..."Building seven was a 30 story sky scraper. It was undamaged. There was no structural damage to it."
..I pointed out that that is NOT true and supplied the statements of a FDNY Captain who was at the scene and detailed the massive damage #7 suffered as well as a fire burning on multiple floors and NO attempt was made to fight that fire as FD folks were "pulled" out due to the lack of water and the building was deemed to unsafe to enter...in addition there are photos of the damage as well as the fire ..but if you think the building was just fine and the photos are phony and the Captain is lying..cool...BTW.if you care, [link to conspiracydebunked.com]
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Technically, op, I like to stay away from this one, but you are correct.

I studied it a while back.
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SWEET. I just got my license to fly a single engine small aircraft. I can now fly any airliner better than a pilot that has flown one for years.
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...well if another pilot took off and you took the controls, with some training in autopilot and radios...you should not have any real problems..you can't land but landing was never part of the plan, so you can turn the yoke and step on the rudder pedals and keep it level and either enter a way point OR follow a heading...yea you could do it..every 747 pilot I ever spoke with said it handled like a heavy Cessna 172...all the harder parts of flight, rotation speeds for weight/balance air temp, flap speeds, gear up/down never had to be mastered...I'm sure you could point your Piper to hit a 110 story building or the Pentagon...the exact same skill would be needed on a 757, left-right.nose up/down...rudder pedals...and throttle...speeds and systems change, not basic flight...
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I don't think so genius. John Lear feels differently or maybe he's just lying?


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911 was an inside job. That is what truthers are trying to get the sheeple to believe.

Please point out exactly what I said was wrong. Everything I stated above is factual. You are a shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22161083


...if you start from a false premise, you generally reach a wrong conclusion..for example, building 7 suffered NO damage..well it suffered massive damage and was in flames..well according to FDNY ...I know, all liars, CIA...
Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years

Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
[link to www.firehouse.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20022035


Perhaps we listened to fire fighters who said it live. Multiple explosions boom boom boom boom. I just wonder if it was because the damage on 1 side of the building, why didn't it collapse like the pentagon, falling sideways then straight down?
 Quoting: spoof


..the man said..."Building seven was a 30 story sky scraper. It was undamaged. There was no structural damage to it."
..I pointed out that that is NOT true and supplied the statements of a FDNY Captain who was at the scene and detailed the massive damage #7 suffered as well as a fire burning on multiple floors and NO attempt was made to fight that fire as FD folks were "pulled" out due to the lack of water and the building was deemed to unsafe to enter...in addition there are photos of the damage as well as the fire ..but if you think the building was just fine and the photos are phony and the Captain is lying..cool...BTW.if you care, [link to conspiracydebunked.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20022035


Ah, but WTC 3, 4, 5, and 6 didn't totally collapse and they were right under the Twin Towers (WTC 1, 2). WTC 3, 4, 5, and 6 suffered massive damage (MUCH, MUCH more than WTC 7), yet they all stood standing with massive damage, while WTC 7 imploded into its own footprint, typical of a controlled demolition. By the way, WTC 7 was a 47-story building; not 30.

Let's step back and think about 2 things: 1) UA 93 didn't make it to its target, and 2) WTC came straight down into its own footprint just like WTC 1 & 2, but withOUT a plane flying into it. Hmmmm...could it be that WTC 7 was rigged for demolition (as WTC 1 & 2 were), but UA 93 (which was 45 minutes late taking off that morning) wasn't able to rendezvous with its intended target, so WTC 7 had to be brought down anyway, or else the explosives rigging inside would be discovered? Nah....couldn't be. :)
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Re: a plane did not hit the pentagon period!!!!
SWEET. I just got my license to fly a single engine small aircraft. I can now fly any airliner better than a pilot that has flown one for years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1308462


...well if another pilot took off and you took the controls, with some training in autopilot and radios...you should not have any real problems..you can't land but landing was never part of the plan, so you can turn the yoke and step on the rudder pedals and keep it level and either enter a way point OR follow a heading...yea you could do it..every 747 pilot I ever spoke with said it handled like a heavy Cessna 172...all the harder parts of flight, rotation speeds for weight/balance air temp, flap speeds, gear up/down never had to be mastered...I'm sure you could point your Piper to hit a 110 story building or the Pentagon...the exact same skill would be needed on a 757, left-right.nose up/down...rudder pedals...and throttle...speeds and systems change, not basic flight...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20022035


I don't think so genius. John Lear feels differently or maybe he's just lying?


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Lear's a fruitcake. My opinion, but an educated one. :)
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