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The Antarctic Settlement Project: Settle a greening Antarctica

 
Antarctican (OP)

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09/11/2012 11:33 PM
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>We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years

>True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons.


>>Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff
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>would require millions of people..


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Not true, it would build up to several million people eventually, and if done correctly, there would be no waste or pollution.

Once again, this is not the 1800's nor is this thread about why it CAN'T be done.

Please some research on the technology and methods we have today please. The venus project show some interesting ways to reduce waste and recycle.


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>We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years

>True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons.


>>Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977


>would require millions of people..


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23623593


Not true, it would build up to several million people eventually, and if done correctly, there would be no waste or pollution.

Once again, this is not the 1800's nor is this thread about why it CAN'T be done.

Please some research on the technology and methods we have today please. The venus project show some interesting ways to reduce waste and recycle.

 Quoting: Antarctican


clappa

well said.
C'mon OP, quit hiding behind the NZ flag and show where u are from, 'coz one thing is for certain you are not from NZ
Antarctican (OP)

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>We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years

>True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons.


>>Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977


>would require millions of people..


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23623593


Not true, it would build up to several million people eventually, and if done correctly, there would be no waste or pollution.

Once again, this is not the 1800's nor is this thread about why it CAN'T be done.

Please some research on the technology and methods we have today please. The venus project show some interesting ways to reduce waste and recycle.

 Quoting: Antarctican


clappa

well said.
C'mon OP, quit hiding behind the NZ flag and show where u are from, 'coz one thing is for certain you are not from NZ
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I am from many places. See my other thread, but I am in NZ.
Anonymous Coward
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09/11/2012 11:53 PM
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There are habitable oasis throughout the continent, there are many photos and videos of flyovers of these regions available online.

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There is NOT, they all freeze UP, you have to leave or you will DIE.
What do you not get about this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845


This is not the 1800's.
We have the technology to sustain a colony.


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Why do you suppose everyone leaves in the antarctic winter?
Unless they are some trekkers or something that live in miserable conditions?
Anonymous Coward
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09/11/2012 11:55 PM
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A group of Muslims, come and state you convert to Islam or die?

How does the group, and will the colony be prepared to defend itself? If so. how? Will you raise your vibrations, and intend them to go away?
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Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"

Putting your head in the sand / snow, doesn't make this possibility go away.
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09/11/2012 11:58 PM
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A group of Muslims, come and state you convert to Islam or die?

How does the group, and will the colony be prepared to defend itself? If so. how? Will you raise your vibrations, and intend them to go away?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20182567


there is a treaty in place that no country can lay claim to any part of antarctica, that is my understanding.

if there is no treaty.. :

..then, the rest of the world would not allow this. kuwait still exists
Anonymous Coward
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09/12/2012 12:01 AM
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the company who manages the safety and security of people in Antarctica.

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'the company' AMEN TO THAT BROTHER

THANK GOD FOR 'THE COMPANY'

someone to tell you, that you can't do it.
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09/12/2012 12:06 AM
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This is very inspiring stuff OP. Thank you for your postings. The ideas you are presenting are seriously the best I've read in awhile.

So much on this site is doom this, nukes that, oh shit I think Iran might be up to something sneaky it's very refreshing to hear ideas of hope.
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09/12/2012 12:12 AM
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hopefully u cn get atonomy from other countries.. so that each settlement would be its own country..
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It's the Wild Wild South.
There are no Antarctic police waiting to deport you.
Trust me.


 Quoting: Antarctican


Agreed. we could just buy a boat and settle anywhere. Who would stop you? No one would even have to know.
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09/12/2012 12:16 AM
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i want in. peace
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09/12/2012 12:18 AM
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This is a great idea. It would be easy to export waste heat into large under ice fish farms. You guys realize we can live under the ice right? its a badass insulator.
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09/12/2012 12:18 AM
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OP What is your email again. I seen it in the last post and I do not have an account to message your on this site.
Antarctican (OP)

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09/12/2012 12:21 AM
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There are habitable oasis throughout the continent, there are many photos and videos of flyovers of these regions available online.

 Quoting: Antarctican


There is NOT, they all freeze UP, you have to leave or you will DIE.
What do you not get about this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845


This is not the 1800's.
We have the technology to sustain a colony.


 Quoting: Antarctican


Why do you suppose everyone leaves in the antarctic winter?
Unless they are some trekkers or something that live in miserable conditions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845


The same thing was said about New England during the colonial age.

Once again, this thread is NOT about why we "can't" do it.
Antarctican (OP)

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09/12/2012 12:23 AM
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Re: The Antarctic Settlement Project: Settle a greening Antarctica
This is a great idea. It would be easy to export waste heat into large under ice fish farms. You guys realize we can live under the ice right? its a badass insulator.
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Yes, as stated in the OP
Anonymous Coward
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09/12/2012 12:24 AM
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Just trying to be supportive. Show us some pics once you have a casa setup all right mang? Someone has to go first. You know before we all hand you money.
Antarctican (OP)

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09/12/2012 12:25 AM
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If posters following this thread would please not reply to the following, they will simply fall into the depths of lower pages, or will be removed by me along with replies:

-Racism
-Religion
-Politics
-Attempts to derail the purpose of the thread.

We are here to discuss HOW to do this, not why it CAN'T be done.

Thank you very much for the bumps, to those who do reply in defense.
Antarctican (OP)

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09/12/2012 12:26 AM
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Just trying to be supportive. Show us some pics once you have a casa setup all right mang? Someone has to go first. You know before we all hand you money.
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I never asked for money to be "handed" to me. I stated I would provide knowledge. Obviously another interested party would provide funding.
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09/12/2012 12:28 AM
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Unless a pole shift is occurring, and it completely changes the relative position of Antarctica to the Sun.

How are you going to address the half year cycle of Night and Day?
Antarctican (OP)

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09/12/2012 12:30 AM
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Unless a pole shift is occurring, and it completely changes the relative position of Antarctica to the Sun.

How are you going to address the half year cycle of Night and Day?
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LEDs that are solar wavelength, an Air Conditioning/Heating Systems.


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Unless a pole shift is occurring, and it completely changes the relative position of Antarctica to the Sun.

How are you going to address the half year cycle of Night and Day?
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LEDs that are solar wavelength, an Air Conditioning/Heating Systems.

 Quoting: Antarctican


Wonderful - but where is the power plant that powers all this?
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
Antarctican (OP)

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Unless a pole shift is occurring, and it completely changes the relative position of Antarctica to the Sun.

How are you going to address the half year cycle of Night and Day?
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LEDs that are solar wavelength, an Air Conditioning/Heating Systems.

 Quoting: Antarctican


Wonderful - but where is the power plant that powers all this?
 Quoting: Kirk


Already stated. Read the thread.
Cheers.
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09/12/2012 12:39 AM
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If you're talking about building a new infrastructure from scratch, then this could be a tremendously fascinating project.

If done right, a project like this could be a showcase for the modern community of the future.

The neatest thing about a clean slate is that you can write anything you want.
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09/12/2012 12:39 AM
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If you're talking about building a new infrastructure from scratch, then this could be a tremendously fascinating project.

If done right, a project like this could be a showcase for the modern community of the future.

The neatest thing about a clean slate is that you can write anything you want.
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Exactly.
We could learn from all the mistakes before us.
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09/12/2012 12:41 AM
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If another group decides to attack this colony, how does the colony defend itself?
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09/12/2012 12:42 AM
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When addressing infrastructural design, the first question you have to ask is whether it's centralized or modular.

Modular makes sense mostly for reasons of redundancy in the event of failure, so an ideal design would feature 1-4 person independent habitations complete with the requirements to sustain those needs that are deemed necessary for the success of the venture.
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OP LETS START A NEW COUNTRY THERE WITH FREEDOM IN MIND NO NWO!
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09/12/2012 12:42 AM
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People live there its far from ignored
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09/12/2012 12:43 AM
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When addressing infrastructural design, the first question you have to ask is whether it's centralized or modular.

Modular makes sense mostly for reasons of redundancy in the event of failure, so an ideal design would feature 1-4 person independent habitations complete with the requirements to sustain those needs that are deemed necessary for the success of the venture.
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Modular. Absolutely.
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People live there its far from ignored
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5000 people on a continent that size is NOTHING.
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