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The Antarctic Settlement Project: Settle a greening Antarctica | |
Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311  New Zealand09/11/2012 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977 >True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons. >>Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff >would require millions of people.. Not true, it would build up to several million people eventually, and if done correctly, there would be no waste or pollution. Once again, this is not the 1800's nor is this thread about why it CAN'T be done. Please some research on the technology and methods we have today please. The venus project show some interesting ways to reduce waste and recycle. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 11:34 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10798387 New Zealand09/11/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977 >True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons. >>Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff >would require millions of people.. Not true, it would build up to several million people eventually, and if done correctly, there would be no waste or pollution. Once again, this is not the 1800's nor is this thread about why it CAN'T be done. Please some research on the technology and methods we have today please. The venus project show some interesting ways to reduce waste and recycle.  well said. C'mon OP, quit hiding behind the NZ flag and show where u are from, 'coz one thing is for certain you are not from NZ |
| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/11/2012 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977 >True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons. >>Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff >would require millions of people.. Not true, it would build up to several million people eventually, and if done correctly, there would be no waste or pollution. Once again, this is not the 1800's nor is this thread about why it CAN'T be done. Please some research on the technology and methods we have today please. The venus project show some interesting ways to reduce waste and recycle. well said. C'mon OP, quit hiding behind the NZ flag and show where u are from, 'coz one thing is for certain you are not from NZ I am from many places. See my other thread, but I am in NZ. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21662845  Australia09/11/2012 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are habitable oasis throughout the continent, there are many photos and videos of flyovers of these regions available online. Quoting: Antarctican There is NOT, they all freeze UP, you have to leave or you will DIE. What do you not get about this? This is not the 1800's. We have the technology to sustain a colony. Why do you suppose everyone leaves in the antarctic winter? Unless they are some trekkers or something that live in miserable conditions? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20182567  United States09/11/2012 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A group of Muslims, come and state you convert to Islam or die? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20182567 How does the group, and will the colony be prepared to defend itself? If so. how? Will you raise your vibrations, and intend them to go away? Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Putting your head in the sand / snow, doesn't make this possibility go away. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23385993  Thailand09/11/2012 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A group of Muslims, come and state you convert to Islam or die? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20182567 How does the group, and will the colony be prepared to defend itself? If so. how? Will you raise your vibrations, and intend them to go away? there is a treaty in place that no country can lay claim to any part of antarctica, that is my understanding. if there is no treaty.. : ..then, the rest of the world would not allow this. kuwait still exists |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23385993 Thailand09/12/2012 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20316630 United States09/12/2012 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is very inspiring stuff OP. Thank you for your postings. The ideas you are presenting are seriously the best I've read in awhile. So much on this site is doom this, nukes that, oh shit I think Iran might be up to something sneaky it's very refreshing to hear ideas of hope. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2679163 United States09/12/2012 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hopefully u cn get atonomy from other countries.. so that each settlement would be its own country.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23385993 It's the Wild Wild South. There are no Antarctic police waiting to deport you. Trust me. Agreed. we could just buy a boat and settle anywhere. Who would stop you? No one would even have to know. |
| Revolutionist User ID: 18191241  South Korea09/12/2012 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22293617 United States09/12/2012 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/12/2012 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are habitable oasis throughout the continent, there are many photos and videos of flyovers of these regions available online. There is NOT, they all freeze UP, you have to leave or you will DIE. What do you not get about this? This is not the 1800's. We have the technology to sustain a colony. Why do you suppose everyone leaves in the antarctic winter? Unless they are some trekkers or something that live in miserable conditions? The same thing was said about New England during the colonial age. Once again, this thread is NOT about why we "can't" do it. |
| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/12/2012 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22293617 United States09/12/2012 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/12/2012 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If posters following this thread would please not reply to the following, they will simply fall into the depths of lower pages, or will be removed by me along with replies: -Racism -Religion -Politics -Attempts to derail the purpose of the thread. We are here to discuss HOW to do this, not why it CAN'T be done. Thank you very much for the bumps, to those who do reply in defense. |
| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/12/2012 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just trying to be supportive. Show us some pics once you have a casa setup all right mang? Someone has to go first. You know before we all hand you money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22293617 I never asked for money to be "handed" to me. I stated I would provide knowledge. Obviously another interested party would provide funding. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1350611 United States09/12/2012 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/12/2012 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless a pole shift is occurring, and it completely changes the relative position of Antarctica to the Sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1350611 How are you going to address the half year cycle of Night and Day? LEDs that are solar wavelength, an Air Conditioning/Heating Systems. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/12/2012 12:31 AM |
| Kirk User ID: 10818676 United States09/12/2012 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless a pole shift is occurring, and it completely changes the relative position of Antarctica to the Sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1350611 How are you going to address the half year cycle of Night and Day? LEDs that are solar wavelength, an Air Conditioning/Heating Systems. Wonderful - but where is the power plant that powers all this? Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/12/2012 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless a pole shift is occurring, and it completely changes the relative position of Antarctica to the Sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1350611 How are you going to address the half year cycle of Night and Day? LEDs that are solar wavelength, an Air Conditioning/Heating Systems. Wonderful - but where is the power plant that powers all this? Already stated. Read the thread. Cheers. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14090794 United States09/12/2012 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you're talking about building a new infrastructure from scratch, then this could be a tremendously fascinating project. If done right, a project like this could be a showcase for the modern community of the future. The neatest thing about a clean slate is that you can write anything you want. |
| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/12/2012 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you're talking about building a new infrastructure from scratch, then this could be a tremendously fascinating project. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14090794 If done right, a project like this could be a showcase for the modern community of the future. The neatest thing about a clean slate is that you can write anything you want. Exactly. We could learn from all the mistakes before us. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20182567 United States09/12/2012 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14090794 United States09/12/2012 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When addressing infrastructural design, the first question you have to ask is whether it's centralized or modular. Modular makes sense mostly for reasons of redundancy in the event of failure, so an ideal design would feature 1-4 person independent habitations complete with the requirements to sustain those needs that are deemed necessary for the success of the venture. |
| Huskar User ID: 23083270 Australia09/12/2012 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| High Times User ID: 23631075 Australia09/12/2012 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Antarctican (OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand09/12/2012 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When addressing infrastructural design, the first question you have to ask is whether it's centralized or modular. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14090794 Modular makes sense mostly for reasons of redundancy in the event of failure, so an ideal design would feature 1-4 person independent habitations complete with the requirements to sustain those needs that are deemed necessary for the success of the venture. Modular. Absolutely. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14090794 United States09/12/2012 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Uncle Samurai User ID: 18324994 United States09/12/2012 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how do we get our internets? I see what the world don't show me. [link to db.tt] |
