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Looks like your water tank is lined with shower & bath material?
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Nothing taste better than distilled cold water. And to the idiots that think distilled water is only for batteries you are MORANS
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


Man, that's correct.

Nothing refreshes like distilled water.

Here are some of my notable life memories.

* As a child tasting the distilled water my mom bought for the steam iron, and developing a liking to the flavor.

* Also as a child going camping at high altitude in the Sierra Nevada mountains of California, and tasting the fresh mountain stream and lake water (water almost equal to distilled water in purity), and noticing the incredible purifying feeling it gave me.

* Waking up from the middle of sleep almost any night, and NOTHING hits the spot like the effect of pure distilled water at those hours.
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Looks like your water tank is lined with shower & bath material?
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The inside walls are lined with aluminum foil, to reflect low angle sun in the mornings and evenings better down into the bottom where the water to be distilled sits. The distiller in the image is lined with an especially thick black plastic that they line ponds with that came with a 6 year guarantee from UV damage.

There is also a light weight aluminum foil covered reflector above the distiller, to concentrate more sunlight into the unit. The top part is hinged. I can fill water directly in the top by opening the unit, and I also have a ball valve that you dont see in the image, where I can fill the unit from the hose, or drain the unit of heavily mineralized water that gets left behind as residue.

One should not generally try to distill 100% of the water that one starts with if one wants good purity.

It is better to distill about half of the volume that you introduce to the tank, and throw the rest away, along with the mineral crust that builds up inside.

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My brother was healthy until about a year after he started only drinking distilled water. He was already on a health kick of eating raw and organic fresh fruits and veggies.
But he got sick after distilling and almost died. Doc said he was mineral deficient, apparently the distilled water leached all the minerals out of his body.
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ehecatl, spoken like a boss!
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Man, my son says that all the time. LoL!
Excellent thread, been drinking distilled h2o exclusively for about 3 years.

Goofy Thum
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My brother was healthy until about a year after he started only drinking distilled water. He was already on a health kick of eating raw and organic fresh fruits and veggies.
But he got sick after distilling and almost died. Doc said he was mineral deficient, apparently the distilled water leached all the minerals out of his body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8023211


Distilled water would probably do a person damage in various ways if they drink too much of it.

The body generally knows how much is correct, and that is generally the amount one is naturally accustomed to drinking. That means drinking water ONLY if you are thirsty.

The campaign to make people drink massive amounts of water was based on basically wrong medical ideas, and promotion from bottle water industry and other PTB interests, not interests in your favor.

Notice that none of those campaigns were asking you to drink more distilled water, no, drink more of the fluoridated crap from the pipes or in bottles that you pay a high price for.

Besides that, everyone's gonna die sometime, especially those whose health is already compromised, and distilled water unfortunately is not going to save any of us from the grim reaper.
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Looks like your water tank is lined with shower & bath material?
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The inside walls are lined with aluminum foil, to reflect low angle sun in the mornings and evenings better down into the bottom where the water to be distilled sits. The distiller in the image is lined with an especially thick black plastic that they line ponds with that came with a 6 year guarantee from UV damage.

There is also a light weight aluminum foil covered reflector above the distiller, to concentrate more sunlight into the unit. The top part is hinged. I can fill water directly in the top by opening the unit, and I also have a ball valve that you dont see in the image, where I can fill the unit from the hose, or drain the unit of heavily mineralized water that gets left behind as residue.

One should not generally try to distill 100% of the water that one starts with if one wants good purity.

It is better to distill about half of the volume that you introduce to the tank, and throw the rest away, along with the mineral crust that builds up inside.
 Quoting: ehecatl


Is great that you are promoting healthy distilled water but do you know about BPA and BHA that leaches out of plastics and turns into xenoestrogens in your body. I won't put you down or anything because I think your distiller is creative but plastic is terrible and you should not be using any plastics in your distiller or filling plastic bottles specially while being exposed to the sun
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My brother was healthy until about a year after he started only drinking distilled water. He was already on a health kick of eating raw and organic fresh fruits and veggies.
But he got sick after distilling and almost died. Doc said he was mineral deficient, apparently the distilled water leached all the minerals out of his body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8023211


Distilled water would probably do a person damage in various ways if they drink too much of it.

The body generally knows how much is correct, and that is generally the amount one is naturally accustomed to drinking. That means drinking water ONLY if you are thirsty.

The campaign to make people drink massive amounts of water was based on basically wrong medical ideas, and promotion from bottle water industry and other PTB interests, not interests in your favor.

Notice that none of those campaigns were asking you to drink more distilled water, no, drink more of the fluoridated crap from the pipes or in bottles that you pay a high price for.

Besides that, everyone's gonna die sometime, especially those whose health is already compromised, and distilled water unfortunately is not going to save any of us from the grim reaper.
 Quoting: ehecatl



I was just kidding. Distilled water is awesome. Just started drinking it for about 6 months now.

I listen to my body. I knew a long time ago fast food was garbage because my body would always feel like crap about an hour after eating it. I use to live off of fastfood in my early 20s but I never eat that garbage at all now.

Now I eat much healthier and try to get at least 3 or 4 raw fruits and veggies in my system everyday. My body thanks me. If I even attempt to eat fast food now my body totally rejects it. It's like I got my body so use to eating healthy that when I put garbage in it, it reacts very badly to it. I usually get diahrea.

When I first switched over from drinking spring water to distilled i noticed instantly that my body craved the distilled water. Now I'm so use to drinking distilled my body just knows and doesn't feel as good if i drink spring water now.

And as the poster above mentioned. Its so refreshing if you wake up and are thirsty in the middle of the night.

I think with all the pollutants around your body needs to constantly detox. So giving it distilled water on a regular basis is the best thing you can do for yourself.

I don't buy into that leaching theory at all. I've never felt better since drinking distilled only.
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General Ripper lays the facts on the line to Peter Sellers about distilled water, thanks to Stanley Kubrick of course.


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Looks like your water tank is lined with shower & bath material?
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The inside walls are lined with aluminum foil, to reflect low angle sun in the mornings and evenings better down into the bottom where the water to be distilled sits. The distiller in the image is lined with an especially thick black plastic that they line ponds with that came with a 6 year guarantee from UV damage.

There is also a light weight aluminum foil covered reflector above the distiller, to concentrate more sunlight into the unit. The top part is hinged. I can fill water directly in the top by opening the unit, and I also have a ball valve that you dont see in the image, where I can fill the unit from the hose, or drain the unit of heavily mineralized water that gets left behind as residue.

One should not generally try to distill 100% of the water that one starts with if one wants good purity.

It is better to distill about half of the volume that you introduce to the tank, and throw the rest away, along with the mineral crust that builds up inside.
 Quoting: ehecatl


Is great that you are promoting healthy distilled water but do you know about BPA and BHA that leaches out of plastics and turns into xenoestrogens in your body. I won't put you down or anything because I think your distiller is creative but plastic is terrible and you should not be using any plastics in your distiller or filling plastic bottles specially while being exposed to the sun
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


As far as the interior liner, it makes no contact with the distilled portion of the water, and the chemicals that you mention are not aeromatics. As far as the receiving bottle, the one I currently use, (not the one in the photo) its the same non-BPA,BHA plastic that the bottled water companies use. That leaves the plastic tube, which you are correct about, but honestly I am in a remote part of Mexico and have not had time to take a day off to travel into the big city and look for those things.

You are correct though, my teacher in the 80's, Will Kinney, would have only used stainless tubing and a glass or stainless steel receptacle.


Another related story though, the first time I had met Will Kinney was because I was working in a sheet metal shop, and had built myself my first solar water distiller, whose body was out of galvanized metal, and a collection trough of stainless steel.

The first and second batch of distilled water from it tasted bad, which is strange, because nothing about the galvanized steel surface is aromatic so no flavor should pass to the water.

Maybe it was the soldering flux that caused that but I thought that I cleaned it pretty well. So a galvanized liner proved unacceptable as is, and neither myself or Dr. Kenny were sure why, but he took the distiller and lined the inside with a thin black silicone rubber coating, and the distiller produced good quality water for about a year, until the liner bubbled off and I replaced the unit for a sophisticated stainless steel design with small internal stair-step channels on the interior, that measured only two feet by three feet, but produced a gallon a day in the southern California sun.

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Distilling doesn't filter everything:
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Most distillers have an escape vent to release such evaporated chemicals. Most filters wont remove drugs and chemicals such as fluoride either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23579788

And those VOC's that evaporate under 100C can be filtered with a carbon filter. Which is included will almost all counter-top models.
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Are you guys saying that a distiller does NOT remove fluoride? I am confused about what it actually removes...
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Distilling doesn't filter everything:
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Most distillers have an escape vent to release such evaporated chemicals. Most filters wont remove drugs and chemicals such as fluoride either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23579788

And those VOC's that evaporate under 100C can be filtered with a carbon filter. Which is included will almost all counter-top models.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17708135


Are you guys saying that a distiller does NOT remove fluoride? I am confused about what it actually removes...
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Distillers DO remove all fluoride, and they do an excellent job of removing fluoride at that. It is chlorine that will sometimes pass an incorrectly designed distiller.

The poster was simply confused, misinformed, or dis-info.
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Water produced from a well designed distiller should test at a laboratory to 99.999999% purity. That would leave just one one hundred thousandth part of it as not H2O.
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In Mexico, the cities do not add fluoride to the city water, because in most regions nobody drinks or uses that water in food preparation anyhow.

In Mexico (by United Nations mandate) they put sodium fluoride in all the table salt, (and in toothpaste of course) I buy sea salt and avoid eating out to avoid fluoride.

Toothpaste is not necessary for good dental hygiene, but I find brushing with pure baking soda seems to serve my teeth the best.

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In the 1980's I put only distilled water in the cooling system of my Datsun pick-up truck.

It destroyed the engine, ate the aluminum parts full of holes, like swiss cheese.
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Most distillers have an escape vent to release such evaporated chemicals. Most filters wont remove drugs and chemicals such as fluoride either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23579788

And those VOC's that evaporate under 100C can be filtered with a carbon filter. Which is included will almost all counter-top models.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17708135

Bedankt! i was wondering about that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1006073


Distilling removes fluoride just like hard minerals in all distilling processes regardless of carbon filters. The carbon filter is good for removing aromatics or things that smell.
 Quoting: ehecatl

Yes I know that, but I was referring to VOC's that have a boiling point under that of water. And fluoride doesn't, so you're safe anyway. But Benzene for example starts to evaporate before the water does, so you need a carbon filter after or before distilling for that.
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My brother was healthy until about a year after he started only drinking distilled water. He was already on a health kick of eating raw and organic fresh fruits and veggies.
But he got sick after distilling and almost died. Doc said he was mineral deficient, apparently the distilled water leached all the minerals out of his body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8023211


Distilled water would probably do a person damage in various ways if they drink too much of it.

The body generally knows how much is correct, and that is generally the amount one is naturally accustomed to drinking. That means drinking water ONLY if you are thirsty.

The campaign to make people drink massive amounts of water was based on basically wrong medical ideas, and promotion from bottle water industry and other PTB interests, not interests in your favor.

Notice that none of those campaigns were asking you to drink more distilled water, no, drink more of the fluoridated crap from the pipes or in bottles that you pay a high price for.

Besides that, everyone's gonna die sometime, especially those whose health is already compromised, and distilled water unfortunately is not going to save any of us from the grim reaper.
 Quoting: ehecatl



I was just kidding. Distilled water is awesome. Just started drinking it for about 6 months now.
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I was gonna call you a shill, thank god you were kidding banana2
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I just discovered the toothpaste I've used my entire life has 1400ppm fluoride in it. That's 0.14%!! If you eat the whole tube... you die!! epic!! So I bought the non fluoridated parodontax.
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ehecatl, spoken like a boss!
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Man, my son says that all the time. LoL!
Excellent thread, been drinking distilled h2o exclusively for about 3 years.

Goofy Thum
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Thanks! And good for you!
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Thanks for the feedback!!!
I have been drinking distilled water for at least 18mo and
only disgnosed as diabitis 3 months back....
 Quoting: homie 23053727

You had two tests? When was the first, and when was the second? Or did he do two test right after the other?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17708135


My test were the first 3 month ago and the second 3 weeks ago...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23053727

Well that explains that drinking distilled water is curing you!! Who knows how much worse the score was 18 months ago? :)
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And those VOC's that evaporate under 100C can be filtered with a carbon filter. Which is included will almost all counter-top models.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17708135

Bedankt! i was wondering about that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1006073


Distilling removes fluoride just like hard minerals in all distilling processes regardless of carbon filters. The carbon filter is good for removing aromatics or things that smell.
 Quoting: ehecatl

Yes I know that, but I was referring to VOC's that have a boiling point under that of water. And fluoride doesn't, so you're safe anyway. But Benzene for example starts to evaporate before the water does, so you need a carbon filter after or before distilling for that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17708135


Good point. I have never been too concerned about VOC's in my water, but someone concerned about this should filter afterwards through carbon.


Hey guess what?

I drank distilled water last night, and I am still here to see the day, and it is great!
grinning

beer2
(that's distilled water in a brown bottle, after my coffee made with distilled water)
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Distilling doesn't filter everything:

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Aluminum pan? Saran Wrap? Why bother? Just get some tap water. If you could use better materials, then it might work good.
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Bedankt! i was wondering about that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1006073


Distilling removes fluoride just like hard minerals in all distilling processes regardless of carbon filters. The carbon filter is good for removing aromatics or things that smell.
 Quoting: ehecatl

Yes I know that, but I was referring to VOC's that have a boiling point under that of water. And fluoride doesn't, so you're safe anyway. But Benzene for example starts to evaporate before the water does, so you need a carbon filter after or before distilling for that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17708135


Good point. I have never been too concerned about VOC's in my water, but someone concerned about this should filter afterwards through carbon.


Hey guess what?

I drank distilled water last night, and I am still here to see the day, and it is great!
grinning

beer2
(that's distilled water in a brown bottle, after my coffee made with distilled water)
 Quoting: ehecatl

No way! ohno
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There is little money to be earned in distilled water for the profiteers, and TPTB do not want you to drink it, so you will find a certain amount of shilling, here I believe, trying to discourage you from drinking distilled water.

A solar distiller can even produce pure water from dirt or plant matter in emergency.

Generally, only impurities that are odorous will pass into the distilled fraction, but even those sorts of impurities can be reduced greatly through proper venting of the chamber.

For common city tap water, a total vent areas placed near the surface of the water in a 1 meter by one meter distiller, would be about 8 square inches, in order to eliminate almost all chlorine. Fluoride is eliminated in the distilling process regardless of venting.
 Quoting: ehecatl


In Hong Kong, it is far more common to see people drink Distilled Water vs Mineralized Water, in fact Distilled is easily the preference and every convenience store has plenty of brands of distilled water to choose from.
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The west has severe cognitive dissonance for things natural. We are a very well programmed race.
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Nearly 20 years on distilled, raised three kids on it...we never get sick and zero cavities with perfect teeth...
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See, even Brief drinks distilled, and he's a cop (TPTB?)

One mouthful of almost any food provides more bio-available minerals than one would get from tap-water consumption all day.

However, drinking excessive water, or more than feels natural, is not good, and not with distilled either.

For making coffee and cooking though, start with the 100% pure thing, distilled.

Here is a video where you see a solar distiller I built out of copper and glass, which not only provided 10 liters of distilled per day water per day, but also provided hot shower water for a family of 8.


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Very nice. Good work.
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There is little money to be earned in distilled water for the profiteers, and TPTB do not want you to drink it, so you will find a certain amount of shilling, here I believe, trying to discourage you from drinking distilled water.

A solar distiller can even produce pure water from dirt or plant matter in emergency.

Generally, only impurities that are odorous will pass into the distilled fraction, but even those sorts of impurities can be reduced greatly through proper venting of the chamber.

For common city tap water, a total vent areas placed near the surface of the water in a 1 meter by one meter distiller, would be about 8 square inches, in order to eliminate almost all chlorine. Fluoride is eliminated in the distilling process regardless of venting.
 Quoting: ehecatl


In Hong Kong, it is far more common to see people drink Distilled Water vs Mineralized Water, in fact Distilled is easily the preference and every convenience store has plenty of brands of distilled water to choose from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23517290


Very intersting. I did not know that. There must be some kind of observation to ask you about in that regard.
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Distilling doesn't filter everything:

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1006073


Aluminum pan? Saran Wrap? Why bother? Just get some tap water. If you could use better materials, then it might work good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23591165


Try it yourself. That method won't even produce enough for a small animal in a day.

However it is not difficult to build a box, slap a sheet of glass on top set at an angle, so the water drips to one side, place a small canal made of stainless steel to catch the distilled water that falls off the glass, and direct that water to a bottle.

With some basic materials I can build a fully functional and practical solar distiller in a day's time and with little money, but with enough capacity to serve several people's drinking needs.

Don't wait till you really need this technology to start experimenting. Better to start today.

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My brother was healthy until about a year after he started only drinking distilled water. He was already on a health kick of eating raw and organic fresh fruits and veggies.
But he got sick after distilling and almost died. Doc said he was mineral deficient, apparently the distilled water leached all the minerals out of his body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8023211


Distilled water would probably do a person damage in various ways if they drink too much of it.

The body generally knows how much is correct, and that is generally the amount one is naturally accustomed to drinking. That means drinking water ONLY if you are thirsty.

The campaign to make people drink massive amounts of water was based on basically wrong medical ideas, and promotion from bottle water industry and other PTB interests, not interests in your favor.

Notice that none of those campaigns were asking you to drink more distilled water, no, drink more of the fluoridated crap from the pipes or in bottles that you pay a high price for.

Besides that, everyone's gonna die sometime, especially those whose health is already compromised, and distilled water unfortunately is not going to save any of us from the grim reaper.
 Quoting: ehecatl



I was just kidding. Distilled water is awesome. Just started drinking it for about 6 months now.

I listen to my body. I knew a long time ago fast food was garbage because my body would always feel like crap about an hour after eating it. I use to live off of fastfood in my early 20s but I never eat that garbage at all now.

Now I eat much healthier and try to get at least 3 or 4 raw fruits and veggies in my system everyday. My body thanks me. If I even attempt to eat fast food now my body totally rejects it. It's like I got my body so use to eating healthy that when I put garbage in it, it reacts very badly to it. I usually get diahrea.

When I first switched over from drinking spring water to distilled i noticed instantly that my body craved the distilled water. Now I'm so use to drinking distilled my body just knows and doesn't feel as good if i drink spring water now.

And as the poster above mentioned. Its so refreshing if you wake up and are thirsty in the middle of the night.

I think with all the pollutants around your body needs to constantly detox. So giving it distilled water on a regular basis is the best thing you can do for yourself.

I don't buy into that leaching theory at all. I've never felt better since drinking distilled only.
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It's disgusting that you think that lying and disinformation is funny.
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Regarding VOC's, they are of particular concern in places with natural petroleum, or where there have been gas stations or industry that has had leaking tanks.

There has been a lot of underground gasoline tanks from gas stations leaking for many decades, and low benzine levels do lead to statistically detectable increases cancers and other problems. This could affect people in metropolitan basins.

In fact vents on a distiller will favor certain volatiles over others, depending on things like the location of the vents in relation to the water level.

To eliminate most VOC's using a steam distiller the first water that distills out as the tank is heating up should be discarded because it will contain more of the more volatile compounds that boil off at lower temperatures than the water.

For laboratory grade distilled water like they sell at chemical supply outlets, they use a triple steam distilled process, with three steam distillers in series, with proper venting. They must know what they are doing because they have been doing it that way for decades, if not centuries, and their purpose is extreme purity.

But that water cost like equal to $4 a gallon here in Mexico. I was thinking about attempting to set up a solar system to produce Lab Water too because at that price it might be worth it to me.

But as far as those who are using distilled water from a one step process or solar process, and especially who lives where water is drawn from a region where an underground gasoline or chemical tank might have leaked, then Yes, good idea to filter through carbon after distilling I would think.

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