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BRKnews PROOF ABSOLTUTE SHINY DAMN PROOF THE FBI PLANTED THE GAS

 
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LOL


This is Not The Gas Mask James Holmes Wore In The Theater –

NO IT'S IS THE ONE THE FBI PLANTED
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the staff have got to have seen the shooter in the lobby
before they ran out jumping from the booths etc

notice they have not talked or been interviewd????

you know why?

thats the gas mask set up story for the court

THE FAKE GAS MASK STORY

LOL
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DUNNA DUNNA DUNNO
DUNN DUNNO DUNNO

BATMAM!!!
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ALL THAT EMBASSY STUFF IS A DISTRACTION FROM THIS YOU KNOW
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calm down bro.....really good find.....hmmm

I think they left major clues like this one because they want the the conspiracy theorists to know that the goverment staged this event ....

they want someone on a site like GLP to lose the patience, go nuts and do something stupid like attack a goberment agency so that they can crack down on people that believe in conspiracys ....they want the population to think we are mentaly disturbed....just my 2 cents
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clappa
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calm down bro.....really good find.....hmmm

I think they left major clues like this one because they want the the conspiracy theorists to know that the goverment staged this event ....

they want someone on a site like GLP to lose the patience, go nuts and do something stupid like attack a goberment agency so that they can crack down on people that believe in conspiracys ....they want the population to think we are mentaly disturbed....just my 2 cents
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clappa
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BULLSHIT AND YOU KNOW WHY?

Normal people dont kill people like that

terrorsim is virtually always organised by goverments
as are these mass shootings
and now with this there is evidence to prove that claim
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BATKID AND THE TRENCHCOAT MAFIA ?


THE CLOAK THE CAPED CRUSADOR

Did The Police Aid Aurora Shooters Escape? Was It A Trenchcoat Or A Cape? UPDATED

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Published on Sep 13, 2012 by HistoricalRecordsVLT

According to witnesses, the suspect had on what looked like a black trenchcoat. The trenchcoat (more likely it was a batman suit) was needed to get out of the crime scene without witnesses noticing the full body armor he had on.
No witnesses reported seeing a suspect taken into custody, which leads me to believe they arrested Holmes as soon as the shooting started or maybe a little before, and the real shooter slipped out with the customers, probably with the help of police.


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"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

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No Charges From Feds For Man Accused Of Mail Fraud And Fake Motions Against James Holmes

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HA COS THIS DISINFO MAN WAS WORKING FOR THEM

SETTING UP THE OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY
TO COVER UP THE REAL ONE
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Simple question.

It was reported from Corbin that the shooter was wearing a gas mask and yelling. Is that possible?

I mean it is a thick sealed thing, right? Wouldn't it be much like yelling underwater?
oops
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BATKID AND THE TRENCHCOAT MAFIA ?


THE CLOAK THE CAPED CRUSADOR

Did The Police Aid Aurora Shooters Escape? Was It A Trenchcoat Or A Cape? UPDATED

VIDEO
[link to www.youtube.com]


Published on Sep 13, 2012 by HistoricalRecordsVLT

According to witnesses, the suspect had on what looked like a black trenchcoat. The trenchcoat (more likely it was a batman suit) was needed to get out of the crime scene without witnesses noticing the full body armor he had on.
No witnesses reported seeing a suspect taken into custody, which leads me to believe they arrested Holmes as soon as the shooting started or maybe a little before, and the real shooter slipped out with the customers, probably with the help of police.


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I FIND IT STRANGE THAT
THE ARTICLE ABOVE WAS POSTED BY
Posted September 13 2012 at 12:00 am
By Ardisia Knowles

AND YET IS ABOUT
Ardisia Knowles STOERY OF WHAT HAPPNED ON THAT NIGHT

IT IS CLEAR THAT NO REPORTER WANTS TO PUT THEIR NAME TO THE STORY
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WE DO NOT HAVE ACTUAL REFERENCES TO WERE THIS OBSERVATION FROM INSIDE THE THEATER 9 ? CAME FROM

AS SHE RAN AWAY AND STOPPED AFTER RUNNING FROM THE CINEMA FRONT ENTRANCE INTO THE CAR PARK
The man warned us, “Someone let off tear gas in there. I used to be in the military, so trust me, do NOT get in your cars.”

SO SOMEONE SAID GAS HAD GONE OFF ALREADY AND THAT WAS THE REASON ALL THSE PEOPLE WERE NOW RUNNING AND IN THE CAR PAK

YET

At the same time Susan and I were running from the theater,**

the Batman movie had started in theater number nine.

AT THE SAME TIME?

SHE COULD NOT HAVE SEEN THIS
BECAUSE APART FROM THE FACT SHE DID NOT GO TO SEE BATMAN

SHE WAS OUTSIDE

Suddenly a man in a black trench coat walked to the front of the theater and left through the exit door. A few audience members noticed this strange act, but dismissed it and continued watching the movie.

REALLY WHO SAYS SO?
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This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!siren2
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WE DO NOT HAVE ACTUAL REFERENCES TO WERE THIS OBSERVATION FROM INSIDE THE THEATER 9 ? CAME FROM

AS SHE RAN AWAY AND STOPPED AFTER RUNNING FROM THE CINEMA FRONT ENTRANCE INTO THE CAR PARK
The man warned us, “Someone let off tear gas in there. I used to be in the military, so trust me, do NOT get in your cars.”

SO SOMEONE SAID GAS HAD GONE OFF ALREADY AND THAT WAS THE REASON ALL THSE PEOPLE WERE NOW RUNNING AND IN THE CAR PAK

YET

At the same time Susan and I were running from the theater,**

the Batman movie had started in theater number nine.

AT THE SAME TIME?

SHE COULD NOT HAVE SEEN THIS
BECAUSE APART FROM THE FACT SHE DID NOT GO TO SEE BATMAN

SHE WAS OUTSIDE

Suddenly a man in a black trench coat walked to the front of the theater and left through the exit door. A few audience members noticed this strange act, but dismissed it and continued watching the movie.

REALLY WHO SAYS SO?
[link to theminaretonline.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755681


I Notice two things aboiut this post by someone who was not inside the theater and did not see batman nor the shooters or anything excpet from outside

that

this post is the first to mention any of the staff
and also it places a man with a trenchcoat cape in theater 9

i also notice it comes later September 13 2012 at 12:00 am, and that it comes AFTER WE HAVE DISCOVERED POLICE WITNESS STATMENTS OF A SHOOTER SEATED IN THEATER 8
A WITNESS STATMENT TALKING OF A MAN DRESSED AS BATMAN IN THEATER 8

AND WE HAVE A VIDEO OF MAN DRESSED AS BATMAN (THE ONLY COSTUMED PERSON WE HAVE SEEN) BEING LED OUT BY A PLICEMAN HOLDING A AUTOMATIC GUN.

ALSO I NOTICE IT COMES AFTER OBSERVATIONS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO MEDIA INTERVIEWS WITH ANY STAFF

EXCPET MENTION OF THEM HERE.

So i conclude this post is the first that is trying to link the man in theater 9
to the search term CAPE COAT CLOAK TRENCOAT ETC
OR BATMAN LIKE OUTFIT ETC

When it is theater 8 we have a spotted SEATED BATMAN

So this post seems to be trying to link any batlike costume to the holmes in theater 9 accusation

therefore seeing as this post makes claims that are neither substantiated by any other witnesses i know of about the man in theater 9
and because this outside witness in the car park all the time could not have seen what went on in theater 9
and in light it brings up things we have discovered recently and tries to change them

i find the post very suspicious indeed
not least as it comes posted freesh recently
September 13 2012 at 12:00 am
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This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!This should be PINNED!siren2
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why?
because of the last post that tries to scuppor the evidence i have observed and other have uncovered?

i asked for it to be pinned ages ago
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Simple question.

It was reported from Corbin that the shooter was wearing a gas mask and yelling. Is that possible?

I mean it is a thick sealed thing, right? Wouldn't it be much like yelling underwater?
oops
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yes good point
corbin is the media conspiracy star and an actor
and lets remember
corbin helps the ofccial story
for corbin is the one who gave the explanation of how the shooter (who i dont call homes because i have no proof eveidence at all it was him) how the shooter got in the exit door

BUT EVEN THEN THAT IS NOT ENOUGH
Because we know more than you.

we have people who know what happens when exit doors are left open
we know we know
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we know gas bombs went off in theater 8

SO GAS BOMBS WERE THROWN INTO MIDDLE ISLE OF THEATER 8
BY WITNESS STATEMENTS
NOT 9

BUT THEATER 8

NOT THROUGH WALLS BUT EXPLSIONS IN THE MIDDLE ISLE
AND THEN GAS IN 8

WE HAVE WTINESSESS WHOS STATMENTS ARE RALAYED BY POLICE RADIO
BY POLICE
OF A SEATED**** SUSPECT IN THEATER 8

AND WE HAVE A WITNESS POINTING OUT THE ONE WHO STOOD OUT IN COSTUME THE ONLY ONE IN COSTUME

THE BATMAN SEATED**** BEHIND HER IN THEATER 8

ALL THE VIDEOS TO THIS ARE IN THIS THREAD
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SO NOW WE KNOW
ABSULTELY
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

AND
SERIEL KILLERS WEAR SUITES
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DOGS FLEW SPACE SHIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PROOF!!!!!

1,000,000,0000,000,000 % !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WE DO NOT HAVE ACTUAL REFERENCES TO WERE THIS OBSERVATION FROM INSIDE THE THEATER 9 ? CAME FROM

AS SHE RAN AWAY AND STOPPED AFTER RUNNING FROM THE CINEMA FRONT ENTRANCE INTO THE CAR PARK
The man warned us, “Someone let off tear gas in there. I used to be in the military, so trust me, do NOT get in your cars.”

SO SOMEONE SAID GAS HAD GONE OFF ALREADY AND THAT WAS THE REASON ALL THSE PEOPLE WERE NOW RUNNING AND IN THE CAR PAK

YET

At the same time Susan and I were running from the theater,**

the Batman movie had started in theater number nine.

AT THE SAME TIME?

SHE COULD NOT HAVE SEEN THIS
BECAUSE APART FROM THE FACT SHE DID NOT GO TO SEE BATMAN

SHE WAS OUTSIDE

Suddenly a man in a black trench coat walked to the front of the theater and left through the exit door. A few audience members noticed this strange act, but dismissed it and continued watching the movie.

REALLY WHO SAYS SO?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755681


I Notice two things aboiut this post by someone who was not inside the theater and did not see batman nor the shooters or anything excpet from outside

that

this post is the first to mention any of the staff
and also it places a man with a trenchcoat cape in theater 9

i also notice it comes later September 13 2012 at 12:00 am, and that it comes AFTER WE HAVE DISCOVERED POLICE WITNESS STATMENTS OF A SHOOTER SEATED IN THEATER 8
A WITNESS STATMENT TALKING OF A MAN DRESSED AS BATMAN IN THEATER 8

AND WE HAVE A VIDEO OF MAN DRESSED AS BATMAN (THE ONLY COSTUMED PERSON WE HAVE SEEN) BEING LED OUT BY A PLICEMAN HOLDING A AUTOMATIC GUN.

ALSO I NOTICE IT COMES AFTER OBSERVATIONS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO MEDIA INTERVIEWS WITH ANY STAFF

EXCPET MENTION OF THEM HERE.

So i conclude this post is the first that is trying to link the man in theater 9
to the search term CAPE COAT CLOAK TRENCOAT ETC
OR BATMAN LIKE OUTFIT ETC

When it is theater 8 we have a spotted SEATED BATMAN

So this post seems to be trying to link any batlike costume to the holmes in theater 9 accusation

therefore seeing as this post makes claims that are neither substantiated by any other witnesses i know of about the man in theater 9
and because this outside witness in the car park all the time could not have seen what went on in theater 9
and in light it brings up things we have discovered recently and tries to change them

i find the post very suspicious indeed
not least as it comes posted freesh recently
September 13 2012 at 12:00 am
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OH AND JUST LOOK AT THIS VERY CAREFUL TO GIVE ANSWERS TO MY OBSERVATIONS TO DO WITH BATMAN NOT NEEDING A TRUE GAS MASK IN THE LOBBY, AND REFERENCE TO THE BRAVERY OF HER BOYFREIND A STAFF MEMBER! i pointed out the staff were not interviwed by media and if said i bet they are bribed and they are going to be used in court to make up the second gas mask story man
the gas mask that Was not there and then was !
VERY SUPSICIOUS
very very suspicious that this should pop up

i trust no one
yes and that mean you aswell.


At the theater entrance doors, two brave employees stayed behind to coordinate safe exits from the building for the customers. The gas had spread to the lobby and caused everyone to cough profusely. One of the helpful employees was my boyfriend Richard.
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"At the theater entrance doors, two brave employees stayed behind to coordinate safe exits from the building for the customers."
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oh is that it?

yes we know they stood outside as people ran out

so they were not in the lobby before

when did they run away
did they see the shooter in the lobby was he dressed up like batman of did he have the second gas mask on that did not exist at the time?

seeing as one of the staff was your voyfreind , little details like these would have helped your post be more sueful instead of rehashing media reports about things you could not possibly have known seeing as you were not there and so could not and cannot verify.
where did you get this trencoat thing from?
i not seen it anywhere else and you put it in the mouths of the other witness?

Supsicious that
and why should you be ashamed?
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two brave employees stayed behind to coordinate safe exits from the building for the customers."

why did they flee?
why did they not press the fire alarms and get the fire dept out
why did the cinemas aitomated ermergency respones fail
the exit door alarm?
the water spinklers>
the fire alarms?

the movie still played on?
why was the cinema in the dark still?

what happned?

far from being praised the cinema failed the public

is should be sued and investigated

why wasnt the back ixt door hallway checked?
how did the man get out and back in without the aalrm going off

who working there enabled all this!!
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why didnt the projectionist stop the movie and turns the house lights on??

by the way corbin dates the media darling says they did

other witnesses say different as do the police on entering 9
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why didnt the projectionist stop the movie and turns the house lights on??

by the way corbin dates the media darling says they did

other witnesses say different as do the police on entering 9
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correction

why didnt the projectionist stop the movie and turns the house lights on??

by the way corbin dates the media darling says they did stop the movie

other witnesses say different as do the police on entering 9
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CINEMA WORKER speaks out

As one of the thousands of people who have worked large Cineplex movie houses, I cannot understand how so many things went wrong with the Cinema system to allow this event to occur. Even so far as to have someone in an adjoining theater to end up shot through the wall because the cinema was not evacuated.


I worked four to five years at a Multiplex of 12 screens during many big openings, including some of the Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. So having hundreds line up in costumes in advance is part of movie experience. My job, or specialization was in crowd control and movement during large events.

THE EXIT DOOR ALARM IS SILENT

Why did a cinema's multiplex fire door allow access the wrong way? Why didn’t the (silent) alarm go off when they were opened?
How did four guns, and body armor end up accessible through that door?
What happened to the manager who should be checking the fire door when James Holmes left the screen in order to secure it?

And why was the Cinemax not put into ‘emergency evacuation’ mode automatically with gas/smoke hitting detectors, the fire door triggering the silent alarm, and a manager hitting the evacuation button?

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Addition: One news report now states that after the smoke grenades, and 20 shots, a manager turned on the alarm for the building, made an announcement and starting an evacuation. By the time the evacuation started, the police were already present and in the fire exit path in gas masks and body armour. The cinema sceens seemed full and the screens did not go into auto-lock (the film turning off and the house emergency lights coming on). Here is a report from someone in another screen, who was there that night. If you look at the picture at the bottom, you can see that no staff usher ripped the tickets, meaning they entered Screen 1 without having passed a control point and had the ticket stub taken. This indicates the cinema was likely understaffed that night.

So: How did James Holmes leave the fire exit and return without the alarm going off?

Fire Exits are meant to do just that, help people exit in case of fire. At the start of every shift in a cinema, I or someone would have to radio to the central office that I was doing a ‘fire exit’ check. The alarm which would send the fire department was turned off, and I would check every single door at the start of the day, and again at the end of the day to make sure they were not blocked, and the walkway out was not blocked in any way. Then the alarm is turned back on. Where I worked there was a delay, to allow for a visual check before the signal went to the fire department.

Why?

Because with 12, or with Century Aurora, CO Cinemark 16 screens, there is no way to be able to tell if there is a fire, or other emergency simply by the working staff seeing it in time (staff are taking tickets, seating, cleaning screens, selling popcorn, selling tickets, cleaning toilets, etc). The opening of a fire door during a film is a signal to check out why, and quickly. So with Associated Press saying that a Federal Law Enforcement Person told them James Holmes propped open a emergency exit side door during the movie, donned his protective gear and returned to the cinema screen to open fire with guns on the crowd. Again, why when the alarm went off in the office was no one sent to check on this fire door.

Yes, during the five years I worked at the multiplex/cineplex there were maybe hundreds of false alarms to check, over a dozen full evacuations and not one emergency involving loss of life. But that is the job. You check because without checking, and ensuring the door is tight, and that it can swing open for exit easily but cannot be opened the other direction, you are not ready for when trouble comes.

Why does the door only open one way? And why are they inaccessible from the other side?

You may think that the reason is to stop people sneaking in, but no, it is to prevent the spread of fire and loss of life. The reason doors only open one way is that if most movie customers can’t find the bathroom sign when they are looking for it, imagine how hard it is to figure out where to go during an emergency. The last thing needed is to have even ONE person re-entering a cinema that is on fire (and you know they would...because they forgot their cell phone). That is also why each staff person is assigned a screen to evacuate, or when short staffed, two small screens (yes, and bathrooms). And yes, I did evacuate screens because the alarm had gone off. Once a smoker illegally smoked and set off the alarm for the largest screen during Lord of the Rings. And it was raining outside. So having 500+ people want to lynch you for ruining their night out watching Lord of the Rings is part of the job. And no one goes back in, no one goes past you, and no one goes out the front, to make sure people aren’t trampled (enough people will exit the bathrooms or lines for films to end up with a group of people coming out the front anyway).

The building is emptied during an evacuation, all screens, not just the one where the alarm went off. The Fire Department has already been automatically notified and will check the building. They and the managers will have the keys to the evacuation doors. Once cleared, people reenter, after a short delay the movies resume. If it is not cleared, emergency officials take over.

So, the days of sneaking into a cinema, then opening the fire door and sneaking in your friends SHOULD have disappeared decades ago. Because a fire door which can be opened, or accessed or tampered with from the other side is not a safe exit. And creates an unsafe building.

So when news reports say that James put on armour and guns and prepared to shoot people with the fire door propped open for up to 30 minutes, something is VERY WRONG. What happened Cinemark?

Cinemark is saying that they have new ‘safety protocols’ like not allowing fake guns into the cinema during a screening. Uh…..right. But what about basic fire protocols?

LEAVING FOUR GUNS AND FULL BODY ARMOUR IN A EXIT CAUSEWAY

As for leaving four guns and full body armor out in a exit causeway? How is that possible?

Unless you are working that shift, and checking those doors with the alarm turned off, you should not even have access to the 'exit flow' out to the parking lot.
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Why didn't the grenades going off trigger the detectors, evacuate the building and notify authorities?

If one person smoking can cause an evacuation, then how can the EXPLOSION of two grenades, and the charges in them not set off a detector? This SHOULD have triggered a full evacuation of the building and immediate notification of the fire department for two reasons. The First is that due to the history of lethal disasters and the risk of electrical, oxygen and other types of combustion, there are not only two types of emergency fire extinguishers available for trained staff (I know, as I used one during a fire that occurred beside the cinema). Staff are supposed to pass both written tests but also have hands on training. Yet often that is determined by the corporation in charge. Because of history of fires the detectors in cinemas are much more sensitive for anything which could be considered a threat(remember it was the tear gas grenades that started the fire at Waco, TX). I would think that post 9/11, gas would be included in what would set them off. Even if that wasn't triggering the detector, the powder shock charges blowing open a grenade inside a cinema screen should qualify. Second, Batman was filmed using IMAX and 70mm film, which means a projectionist should have been up in the booth, and the projectionist has their own fire alarm system which they can trigger in case of any problems. The reason is because historically the projector has been the trigger of many fires, often the projection booth is isolated for fire safety, and a small window gives the projectionist a view of the screen and audience.

In the same way, if there is a raging fire in screen 5, you don’t want screen 4 and 6 to keep watching their film as the fire grows, that is why the automatic evacuation alarm sends out an automated message. Once the alarm is triggered, the entire multiplex evacuates, and yes it may cost a few bucks but it is better than loss of life. When the alarm occurs, the message comes over the speakers, the film projection is cut, the exit is lit and the audience is informed to proceed to the evacuation point – which is where the staff should be leading them. A few staff then check each screen, each toilet, and under the front ‘masking’ of the screen to ensure the building is evacuated.

So when “Eyewitnesses say bullets from the shooting in theatre nine passed through the theatre walls into adjacent screens, injuring people there also.” (source) It is the exact opposite of what is supposed to happen.

Why did it? Only Cinemark can answer why the fire exit either had no alarm, or the alarm was not checked. I am guessing, from talks with managers and staff in recent trips to the cinema that the building was extremely understaffed.

Premier Showings and Midnight Showings often call for extra staff
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Re: BRKnews PROOF ABSOLTUTE SHINY DAMN PROOF THE FBI PLANTED THE GAS
maybe this accounts for the very rogaized rapid 300 squad car arrivalON THE SCENE IN MINUTES

that has led to the police chief making grossly over exagerrated statements about holmes arrest BY THE WAY ?


Addition: One news report now states that after the smoke grenades, and 20 shots, a manager turned on the alarm for the building, made an announcement and starting an evacuation. By the time the evacuation started, the police were already present and in the fire exit path in gas masks and body armour. The cinema sceens seemed full and the screens did not go into auto-lock (the film turning off and the house emergency lights coming on).

NOTICE

IT WAS A POLICE EVENT ARRIVAL SPECTACLE ONLY
NO AMBULANCE OF FIRETRUCKS WERE PART OF THAT ORGANISED PARTY OF 300 POLICE FROM EVERY CONER EVERY COUNTY BIG MEDIA HYPED THING.

WAS IT ALL TO GIVE CREDENCE TO THE LACK OF CREDENCE OF ERMGENCY RESPONSE BY THE CINIMA MANAGMENT AND THE NUMEROUS AUTOMATED FAILURES ?
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09/14/2012 10:42 AM
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Re: BRKnews PROOF ABSOLTUTE SHINY DAMN PROOF THE FBI PLANTED THE GAS
TIMING IS EVERYTHING YOU KNOW .
AND CONFUSION IS AN ASSET
BUT AUTOMATED FIRE ALARMS AND SMOKE DETECTORS DONT RELY ON HUMANS
EXCEPT IF THEY ARE PURPOSELY SWITCHED OFF!

maybe this accounts for the very rogaized rapid 300 squad car arrivalON THE SCENE IN MINUTES

that has led to the police chief making grossly over exagerrated statements about holmes arrest BY THE WAY ?


Addition: One news report now states that after the smoke grenades, and 20 shots, a manager turned on the alarm for the building, made an announcement and starting an evacuation. By the time the evacuation started, the police were already present and in the fire exit path in gas masks and body armour. The cinema sceens seemed full and the screens did not go into auto-lock (the film turning off and the house emergency lights coming on).

NOTICE

IT WAS A POLICE EVENT ARRIVAL SPECTACLE ONLY
NO AMBULANCE OF FIRETRUCKS WERE PART OF THAT ORGANISED PARTY OF 300 POLICE FROM EVERY CONER EVERY COUNTY BIG MEDIA HYPED THING.

WAS IT ALL TO GIVE CREDENCE TO THE LACK OF CREDENCE OF ERMERGENCY RESPONSE BY THE CINEMA MANAGMENT?
AND THE NUMEROUS AUTOMATED FAILURES ?

ALL TIMES PERFECTLY THE THEATER LACK OF AUTOMATED AND PERSONAL MANAGMENT AND THAT POLICE SPECTACLE POLICE SQUAD STYLE EN-MASS ARRIVAL IN 90 SECONDS ETC ETC.\

TIMING IS EVERYTHING YOU KNOW .
AND CONFUSION IS AN ASSET
BUT AUTOMATED FIRE ALARMS AND SMOKE DETECTORS DONT RELY ON HUMANS
EXCEPT IF THEY ARE PURPOSELY SWITCHED OFF!





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