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Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Those amazing 'ghost' cities in the middle of nowhere in China have beena the subject of much speculation.

[If you've never seen them, look here - [link to www.businessinsider.com]

Personally, I have seen them as doomsday cities, in readiness for some disaster that might occur, forcing populations inland, especially to China.

They are estimated to house 40 million people so far.

When Fukashima occured, I thought they might be an avenue for the Japanese to evacuate their people to. I still think that, and believe defecites for the last decade or so are where the money was funnelled. BTW, I also think Fukashima is the least of Japan's worries. Their way of life and islands wont be there for much longer me thinks, soon to dissappear beneath the waves. E. Cayce once predicted that also.

A friend sent me an article the other day about heavy investment in Honduras.

The article is government sponsored and endorsed, and is a way forward for the small country, in the eyes of the current government.

They are commissioning some large cities to be built. Brand new everything.

Here's where it gets interesting. Brand new water pipes, brand new roads, infact brand new infrastructure from the ground up - including the city laws, judiciary and politics!

These cities will be a state within a state! Completely separate in all laws etc than the country they reside in.
Even commerce will be effected by the city, where by they chose to do business with whome ever their corporation choses to.

That is HUGE! They will also control immigration and population of these cities.

Sound like sci-fi? Reminds me of Logan's Run, or RoboCop's 'New Detroit', with some Aeon Flux thrown in.

So, who on the planet has the money, will power and labour to build such cities? Obviously China does, and they already have the model.

[link to www.tri-cityherald.com]

Brings me to the why of it.

Movies like 2012 suggested that portions of China would be the last safe haven when 'it' happens. 'It' is still a work in progress for me. Meteor, EQs, SolarHell, ascention, what ever...

Ideas like expanding Earth work well for me, rather than comet or solar doom. The resultant expansion leaving some places high, and some places low - resulting in flooding, and displacement of large groups, even whole countries.

If the Chinese were able to work out exactly what was going down, and plan around that, maybe these cities are a way of ensuring not only China's continuation, but other people's as well, allowing an instant economy to continue.

A model where by each city is a sovereign territory, as layed out by the Honduran's would suggest they will each have a flavour or sovereign direction.



PS - thanks GD hf

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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Michigan town near Ohio could become ‘China City’.

415-unit housing complex would be home to Chinese business people.

[link to www.springfieldnewssun.com]
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Good point. How many buildings and developments would need to be purchased before an area is totally controlled by a corporation?

Your constitution protects citizens to a degree, but an overwhelming presence of one particular group, be it race based, religion based or socia/economic based would make it uncomfortable for anyone else to live there.

The big difference with what is being proposed in Honduras is that they would be sovereign territories unto themsleves, outside the countries law.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
good luck China with empty cities.
They don't take care of themselves. See any empty cities anywhere from even a couple centuries ago? Maybe some ghost towns but they don't function
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They're going to wipe out almost every last living human and institute a New World Order. These empty cities won't be empty for long - they'll be filled with our brainwashed siblings and children.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
I hope not AC-USA.

Looks to me as if they are being 'directed' to do all this stuff, and their culture is one of few, that would respond with little resistance.

The places they build these in would suggest stable strata, regardless of any Earth change.

Honduras, would then be a place that suggests stability, in terms of geo-position, should Earth changes occur.

Maybe these places are the real 'life boats' suggested in that movie 2012?
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Some are saying they are not ghost cities only Chinese expasion.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
There's a small crew of ground and maintenance staff living and working in these cities. It has been the case for a long while now.

When the Honduran ones come on line, there will be less of a mystery me thinks. We can see who buys in, what corps set up shop etc.

The law structure will be most interesting, as it will be the first open corporately controlled sovereign entity.

People buying in will be aware of that and will need to abide by the corporations laws.

Its a huge thing we're looking at here. I am a bit surprised more sites havent noticed this.

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China Ghost Cities are a result of their stimulus plan.

The Government fork out the stimulus money, to pay and built these cities. But then they found out, none of their average citizens are able to afford it.

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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
It certainly is one explanation being touted for some of the China cities. One explanation.

As for Honduras, there are no cultural or language blockages to stop everyone knowing exactly what their intent is. Did you read the article?

If you missed it, I am saying the Honduran exercise is what the China cities may be about, and if so, it implies a few things, especially if each city is given it's sovereignty,
despite being part of another country. Total corporate control, out in the open.

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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Michigan town near Ohio could become ‘China City’.

415-unit housing complex would be home to Chinese business people.

[link to www.springfieldnewssun.com]
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I don't like the sound of that. They are saber rattling against us all the time and we're just gonna let them set up homestead? Suicide.
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They still have to abide by US law, and work and get paid in US dollars.

If any shit goes down, just hold the entire tower for ransome. Perhaps look at it from that perspective if you see it as a threat?
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
I can think of a few possibilities:

1) They were built with your pension money which some fool lent them and is now totaly lost but still on the books as a billion dollar real estate investment.

2) They are the future homes of all the traitors who sold us out and all our jobs and factories to the Chinese. Ready and waiting for the days we begin shooting those fuckers in the streets.


I lean toward #2. I've heard some of them are built to resemble Paris, Venice and New York City with charming brownstones and Pizza shops. Every traitor will feel right at home in a prison that resembles his former country.
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It's for all the Mexicans that sneak into China
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What better way to stimulate the local economy than give jobs to regular people, who will then spend it in turn cycling it over to their local economy, instead of the "trickle down" corrupt corporatist bullshit we have here.
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What better way to stimulate the local economy than give jobs to regular people, who will then spend it in turn cycling it over to their local economy, instead of the "trickle down" corrupt corporatist bullshit we have here.
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Like the party gives a shit about the peasants. Half of China lives in grass huts for fuck sakes. If anybody cared they'd be moving those people into these cities.

There is a clue to the purpose of these cities. none of them are located anywhere near a place that a person could make a living so he could afford to live there, such as a factory. That's what further tells me these are for the billionaire fucks that sold us down the river.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Saw a video of some Chinese general saying that they expected their coastal areas to become inundated by the ocean in the near future and they need these cities for the people to be relocated to. This explains why these cities are far inland. Wasn't explained whether the inundation was due to global warming or something else.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Thanks D.

I tend to lean thataways too.

"something else".
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You can be assured China does nothing without planing. They have a hundred year plan, were America plans four years at a time, from one election to the next. The Chinese always plan a hundred years in advance, so these cities have a place in that plan. Anyone that has studied eastern civilization knows this to be true.
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You can be assured China does nothing without planing. They have a hundred year plan, were America plans four years at a time, from one election to the next. The Chinese always plan a hundred years in advance, so these cities have a place in that plan. Anyone that has studied eastern civilization knows this to be true.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Those amazing 'ghost' cities in the middle of nowhere in China have beena the subject of much speculation.

[If you've never seen them, look here - [link to www.businessinsider.com]

Personally, I have seen them as doomsday cities, in readiness for some disaster that might occur, forcing populations inland, especially to China.

They are estimated to house 40 million people so far.

When Fukashima occured, I thought they might be an avenue for the Japanese to evacuate their people to. I still think that, and believe defecites for the last decade or so are where the money was funnelled. BTW, I also think Fukashima is the least of Japan's worries. Their way of life and islands wont be there for much longer me thinks, soon to dissappear beneath the waves. E. Cayce once predicted that also.

A friend sent me an article the other day about heavy investment in Honduras.

The article is government sponsored and endorsed, and is a way forward for the small country, in the eyes of the current government.

They are commissioning some large cities to be built. Brand new everything.

Here's where it gets interesting. Brand new water pipes, brand new roads, infact brand new infrastructure from the ground up - including the city laws, judiciary and politics!

These cities will be a state within a state! Completely separate in all laws etc than the country they reside in.
Even commerce will be effected by the city, where by they chose to do business with whome ever their corporation choses to.

That is HUGE! They will also control immigration and population of these cities.

Sound like sci-fi? Reminds me of Logan's Run, or RoboCop's 'New Detroit', with some Aeon Flux thrown in.

So, who on the planet has the money, will power and labour to build such cities? Obviously China does, and they already have the model.

[link to www.tri-cityherald.com]

Brings me to the why of it.

Movies like 2012 suggested that portions of China would be the last safe haven when 'it' happens. 'It' is still a work in progress for me. Meteor, EQs, SolarHell, ascention, what ever...

Ideas like expanding Earth work well for me, rather than comet or solar doom. The resultant expansion leaving some places high, and some places low - resulting in flooding, and displacement of large groups, even whole countries.

If the Chinese were able to work out exactly what was going down, and plan around that, maybe these cities are a way of ensuring not only China's continuation, but other people's as well, allowing an instant economy to continue.

A model where by each city is a sovereign territory, as layed out by the Hunduran's would suggest they will each have a flavour or sovereign direction.



PS - thanks GD hf
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Interesting..
Honduras is building private cities also.
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Maybe the US is planning to send all their Black people to live in China's "ghost cities".

Or was it that the Aliens were going to come pick them up at the curb?
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With whomeve , lol
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Funny, I spell 'Honduran' as HUNduran (3) times?!

Freudian slip? The Huns? Might look in to that aspect further.
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What better way to stimulate the local economy than give jobs to regular people, who will then spend it in turn cycling it over to their local economy, instead of the "trickle down" corrupt corporatist bullshit we have here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11696035



Like the party gives a shit about the peasants. Half of China lives in grass huts for fuck sakes. If anybody cared they'd be moving those people into these cities.

There is a clue to the purpose of these cities. none of them are located anywhere near a place that a person could make a living so he could afford to live there, such as a factory. That's what further tells me these are for the billionaire fucks that sold us down the river.
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"You have got seven to eight million people entering the workforce in China every single year, so you have to give them something to do in order to retain the legitimacy of the government," says Doran.

"Maybe 10 or 15 years ago they were doing things that made sense - roads, rail, power stations etc - but they have now got to the point where it's investment for investment's sake." [link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Well BP, if that is indeed the case, I like the idea better than putting people on welfare.
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9teen They can plot and plan until the cows some home, but it ain't going to get them nowhere.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
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:9teen: They can plot and plan until the cows some home, but it ain't going to get them nowhere.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
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yeh, like the jwes, whose god is satan.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
I wouldn't expect any less from the world's oldest empire.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
lets face it..who the heck wants to be in a mini remake of the world as it was after whatever happens?
Again built around the worship of greed..money..commerce etc?

no way..

besides if this is the end times it will be God deciding and not man.
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