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Real reason for China's ghost cities?

 
BadHairDay (OP)

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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
So how do you think the Honduran cities will work?

The 'new' corporate rule of law?
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09/12/2012 06:27 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
..its the "mother of all housing bubbles" and when it finally blows its going to be huge..
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09/12/2012 06:34 AM
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More importantly who would want to live in a lame ass apartment comunity.

I don't think I want anything from people that life in that bullshit no matter what they make, or mine.
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09/12/2012 06:46 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
:9teen: They can plot and plan until the cows some home, but it ain't going to get them nowhere.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
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You fucking pommie muppet :-)
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09/12/2012 07:04 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


China has squandered the people's cash. That is all that has happened. Soon they will build highways and trains to connect them to one another
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09/12/2012 07:20 AM
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baby boomers retirement plan, pension S.S. live in paradise with beaches on both sides a lot cheaper than Hawaii
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I wouldn't expect any less from the world's oldest empire.
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If this were America doing this, the banks would figure out a way to foreclose on them.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


China has squandered the people's cash. That is all that has happened. Soon they will build highways and trains to connect them to one another
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5549032


No that is not so, these were built of the wealth of the dragon clan, not taxes. Now go cry in a corner some where, has your country provided for the coming earth changes, china will loose a lot of coast. The us built underground for the thugs only. Not you. China also has huge underground installations, also for their people. One of those was lost during the big May quake a few years ago, its nuclear reactor blew up.
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the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


babyPlease move to china now, if you hate the US of A so much move. So tired of you anti american americans it makes me sick. These countrys are not the holy grail you think they are. And FYI I doubt they would want a whinner like yourself.

P.S China is still pissed at JApan over the occupation so think agian.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


China has squandered the people's cash. That is all that has happened. Soon they will build highways and trains to connect them to one another
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5549032


No that is not so, these were built of the wealth of the dragon clan, not taxes. Now go cry in a corner some where, has your country provided for the coming earth changes, china will loose a lot of coast. The us built underground for the thugs only. Not you. China also has huge underground installations, also for their people. One of those was lost during the big May quake a few years ago, its nuclear reactor blew up.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


All in your head, you have no idea why they built those cities or if the US of A has any plans for an imaginary event also. The dragon clan, my god you must no it all.

Most chinease live in poverty and yes the communist gov. blows the money.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


China has squandered the people's cash. That is all that has happened. Soon they will build highways and trains to connect them to one another
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5549032


No that is not so, these were built of the wealth of the dragon clan, not taxes. Now go cry in a corner some where, has your country provided for the coming earth changes, china will loose a lot of coast. The us built underground for the thugs only. Not you. China also has huge underground installations, also for their people. One of those was lost during the big May quake a few years ago, its nuclear reactor blew up.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


All in your head, you have no idea why they built those cities or if the US of A has any plans for an imaginary event also. The dragon clan, my god you must no it all.

Most chinease live in poverty and yes the communist gov. blows the money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17868102


Know
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09/12/2012 08:06 AM
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good luck China with empty cities.
They don't take care of themselves. See any empty cities anywhere from even a couple centuries ago? Maybe some ghost towns but they don't function
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22894284


Maintenance crews do live in those cities...
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09/12/2012 08:12 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
This thread is living proof that most of you have no bloody idea about anything to do with China.

THose cities exist for one reason, money.

Chinese traditionally invest in two things, their children and real estate.

During the economic boom, they desperately wanted more property in the CHinese market to funnel out all the new found wealth(THIS IS ALSO THE REAOSN THEY ARE PURCHASING A LOT OF CHEAP AMERICAN REAL ESTATE).

They see it as a safe investment, and while this bubble will eventually pop and hurt a lot of people in the process, the average person will not be terribly affected, as they cannot afford these new housing projects because the speculative tendencies in real estate(in any large market) is totally out of control.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


The Japanese and Chinese dislike one another intently due to the "Raping of Nanking" during WW2 and much more. But given the choice to fall in step under the anglo-american empire or unite they may decide to unite.
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09/12/2012 08:17 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Maybe those Chinese Arks shown in the movie 2012 actually refer to these 'ARK Cities' ?
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09/12/2012 08:19 AM
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Interesting BHD,

Glad to see you back on the main board, Been awhile!
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09/12/2012 08:22 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Or they are working in multi-dimension sciences. Where people are living there but in another dimension. We see the infrastructure but not the people.

Kinda like they are one skip ahead or behind in time.
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09/12/2012 08:26 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
How can you tell a Chinese ghost? The eyeholes are almond-shaped, and the sheet's yellow.

(BOO!!! HISS!!!)
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Whites are the obvious end product of the human race for the following reasons:
1) Beat them up and they turn BLACK.
2) Leave them out in the sun long enough and they turn BROWN.
3) Feed them alcohol and they turn RED.
4) Feed them lots more alcohol and they turn YELLOW - from liver disease.

So, I bow to the masters of civilization: the WHITE Race!
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09/12/2012 08:28 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Could be some utopian doomsday super-city for the elites. You know, they'll flee there then kill us all. Hold out there til the fallout clears.

Have they built the dome around it?
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09/12/2012 08:32 AM
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Correct OP...the ghost cities are not unlike the giant "Arks" in the movie 2012 and just like the movie...the cities are for ONLY the elite and wealthy.

You see after the "event" the survivors on Earth will turn to eating each other and the current cities will be a massive,stinking bio-hazard zones that will be filled with rotting garbage and rotting flesh so the ghost cities provide a safe and clean place for the elite to rebuild the world as they see it.

For all of us...we are on our own.

Think "Mad Max" on steroids.

Got food?
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09/12/2012 08:44 AM

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the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


Sure they have! However, people like you and I are not included. The rich, the elite and the corrupt will be more than taken care of - what are those underground bases for?

Having said that? Those bases will be populated by major narcissists that are not capable of frying an egg without a personal chef and now have to live in captivity with each other?

Sounds like they have created their own version of HELL.

5a
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09/12/2012 08:51 AM
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the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


Sure they have! However, people like you and I are not included. The rich, the elite and the corrupt will be more than taken care of - what are those underground bases for?

Having said that? Those bases will be populated by major narcissists that are not capable of frying an egg without a personal chef and now have to live in captivity with each other?

Sounds like they have created their own version of HELL.

5a
 Quoting: eleyna2012


the thugs were given resources to build them and carrrots they will not be occupying them.
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09/12/2012 08:52 AM
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Hello

I researched their elevations a few months back. Most are located at 4000 - 7000ft above sea level in ord, china. One cluster is in angola, africa near the coast. No more than 40 ft above. It may be a safe zone if you look at the cayce map.

God Bless
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Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
the chinese actually planned to care for their people and the Japanese. the US of A sure hasn't.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


China has squandered the people's cash. That is all that has happened. Soon they will build highways and trains to connect them to one another
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5549032


No that is not so, these were built of the wealth of the dragon clan, not taxes. Now go cry in a corner some where, has your country provided for the coming earth changes, china will loose a lot of coast. The us built underground for the thugs only. Not you. China also has huge underground installations, also for their people. One of those was lost during the big May quake a few years ago, its nuclear reactor blew up.
 Quoting: Candace of AH


Most interesting comment - do you have a link re- reactor and earthquake?
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Good thread OP.
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Re: Real reason for China's ghost cities?
Those amazing 'ghost' cities in the middle of nowhere in China have beena the subject of much speculation.

[If you've never seen them, look here - [link to www.businessinsider.com]

Personally, I have seen them as doomsday cities, in readiness for some disaster that might occur, forcing populations inland, especially to China.

They are estimated to house 40 million people so far.

When Fukashima occured, I thought they might be an avenue for the Japanese to evacuate their people to. I still think that, and believe defecites for the last decade or so are where the money was funnelled. BTW, I also think Fukashima is the least of Japan's worries. Their way of life and islands wont be there for much longer me thinks, soon to dissappear beneath the waves. E. Cayce once predicted that also.

A friend sent me an article the other day about heavy investment in Honduras.

The article is government sponsored and endorsed, and is a way forward for the small country, in the eyes of the current government.

They are commissioning some large cities to be built. Brand new everything.

Here's where it gets interesting. Brand new water pipes, brand new roads, infact brand new infrastructure from the ground up - including the city laws, judiciary and politics!

These cities will be a state within a state! Completely separate in all laws etc than the country they reside in.
Even commerce will be effected by the city, where by they chose to do business with whome ever their corporation choses to.

That is HUGE! They will also control immigration and population of these cities.

Sound like sci-fi? Reminds me of Logan's Run, or RoboCop's 'New Detroit', with some Aeon Flux thrown in.

So, who on the planet has the money, will power and labour to build such cities? Obviously China does, and they already have the model.

[link to www.tri-cityherald.com]

Brings me to the why of it.

Movies like 2012 suggested that portions of China would be the last safe haven when 'it' happens. 'It' is still a work in progress for me. Meteor, EQs, SolarHell, ascention, what ever...

Ideas like expanding Earth work well for me, rather than comet or solar doom. The resultant expansion leaving some places high, and some places low - resulting in flooding, and displacement of large groups, even whole countries.

If the Chinese were able to work out exactly what was going down, and plan around that, maybe these cities are a way of ensuring not only China's continuation, but other people's as well, allowing an instant economy to continue.

A model where by each city is a sovereign territory, as layed out by the Honduran's would suggest they will each have a flavour or sovereign direction.



PS - thanks GD hf
 Quoting: BadHairDay

The Rockefellers have own such a state for decades....
stand alone utilities, private public works dept, etc..
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They still have to abide by US law, and work and get paid in US dollars.

If any shit goes down, just hold the entire tower for ransome. Perhaps look at it from that perspective if you see it as a threat?
 Quoting: BadHairDay


No they don't we already have medical and technical people here making the same wages they make in Russia India Philippines etc plus per diem. So they are happy but that means that out of work Americans aren't working. Americans say good-bye to nursing jobs, engineering jobs etc.
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You can be assured China does nothing without planing. They have a hundred year plan, were America plans four years at a time, from one election to the next. The Chinese always plan a hundred years in advance, so these cities have a place in that plan. Anyone that has studied eastern civilization knows this to be true.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Maybe a good point.

But the architecture that they are building are all things with set life-times that need maintenance.

There is a steady loss and financial drain for building them and leaving them unoccupied.

I can't imagine these cities remaining unoccupied for very long, and still be the part of some "plan" from simple logic.

...or maybe China has a system that allowed some dumb-ass high level leader invest an enormous amount in a boondoggle.

...or maybe both these points of view depending on whose opinion you were to see it through.

I spoke with a couple, one born in Beijing, and the other who travels there from Canada, and they did not know about why they built these cities either, no surprise there.
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You may want to look into it for yourselves, but I believe all the Chinese cities are above 5000 feet in elevation.
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Everyone knows these cities were built for the aliens who are about to arrive :)

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