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Alternative cures for root canal infection?

 
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Alternative cures for root canal infection?
No tooth extraction, no surgery, but an alternative way to heal the tooth. Does anyone here know of such, or personally has cured it? as in natural antibiotics etc..
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01/09/2006 03:37 AM
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gargle with draino!
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01/09/2006 04:23 AM
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Hmm, with a root canal perhaps you've already strayed beyond the possibility of "natural healing"?

MY TRUE STORY:

A long time ago I had all of my mercury fillings replaced with first-generation plastic composites, figuring that it was the "right thing to do" in my quest (back then) for "perfect health". The dentist doing the work remarked at the time that the drillings were quite shallow and probably didn't need to be made and filled in the first place (but that's another story). Unfortunately those composite fillings didn't last more than a few months before they began cracking and falling out in bits and pieces. Then I was stuck with a choice of returning to amalgam fillings or waiting for plastic filling technology to catch up with my teeth.

So Phase II of this health experiment became, "How long can drilled cavities remain unfilled?" At least seven years in my case - except for one upper tooth. At that time in my life I ate a mostly alkaline diet (macrobiotic/vegan) and religiously rinsed my mouth out with water and brushed after every meal. But the drilled hole in one upper tooth was a bit difficult to thoroughly clean, and decay resumed there. The pulp chamber was eventually breached, but no, I didn't run back to the dentist for help. It really didn't hurt that bad, and eventually it didn't hurt at all, as long as I watched my diet and rinsed out the cavity after eating. I could actually see the nerve root with my little dental mirror. No wonder people used to think that worms caused cavities!

Over the course of several more months, nature consumed the entire nerve and tooth root all the way to its end in the bone, and an abcess formed in my gum above the tooth. That abcess finally broke open and I had a bit more mess to rinse out for a while. But eventually I had a clean hole all the way from the crown of the tooth up through the root channel and out the top of my upper jaw and gumline. Of course this development made rinsing the whole affair a whole lot easier. Throughout all this the other root of the tooth remained intact.

I maintained this oral state of affairs, with one thoroughly "consumed" tooth root and several other drilled but unfilled cavities, for MANY months before I finally found a dentist that I believed would 1) not judge me a lunatic for the course of events my mouth had suffered and 2) be able to fix the holes in my mouth without resorting to mercury fillings. Third-generation plastic composites were used this time around and have mostly been successful. However, that one diseased tooth could not be saved and was extracted. The remaining root was extremely strong however and it took all of my dentist's strength to pull it out, even after breaking it into several pieces.

WHAT I LEARNED:

Even outright abcesses are not necessarily deadly. They can actually be part of a healing process of sorts. In any case, it is certainly possible to live with a less-than-perfect set of teeth for a LONG time. Lack of dental services in TEOTWAKI scenarios are probably not as bad as one might think. In fact, our ancestors have been doing without dentistry for millenia and they survived long enough to produce us. Better to worry about _what_ you will eat rather than how you will be able to chew it. Then take some care to clean after eating. You WILL survive, and can even THRIVE. I did.

So I'm not recommending that you ignore *your* root infection. I'm just giving you some information from a viewpoint that I'll bet your dentist has never personally seen. Yes, if you'd rather not have a hole in your jaw, then you may want to do something about this. Although I stopped take oral antibiotics a long time ago (they make me feel "dark" inside), after what I went through, I decided after the extraction of my diseased tooth to go ahead and take them that one time. You could try alternative methods (lots of garlic, possibly hot compresses on the root area, etc.), but since you've already (apparently) had evidence of serious decay and have treated this tooth with a root canal, it may be best to just stick with the conventional treatment regimen of antibiotics. Hope this doesn't sound like too much of a cop-out...

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malu

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chew organic oregeno,,, *thanks dilat*
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01/09/2006 04:31 AM
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OK, OOO is probably better than any conventional oral antibiotic - but I have ZERO experience with it.

Please pardon my previous cop-out...

cow
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01/09/2006 04:35 AM
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well that was a very well written cop out,, if i ever read one! *grin*

it was an interesting read
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01/09/2006 04:43 AM
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I swear it's all true, every bit of it.

malu, you are not confusing me with "Dilatoriness", are you? I am not her/him.
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01/09/2006 04:45 AM
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no,, not at all,,, she is dilat,, the one and only
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01/09/2006 04:50 AM
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OK, then I suppose you were thanking her for the organic oregano tip (not for my story).

Eventually I may get my whole life up in these pages in installments. But for now sleep beckons. Got to get the kids to school and myself to work in a few hours. Good night!
malu

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01/09/2006 04:51 AM
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yes i was just thanking dilat for some info i learned from her yesterday,, have a quick and restful sleep!
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01/09/2006 04:57 AM
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always at the onset ANTIBIOTICS

and garlic! garlic and cranberries ... heh love em both and hopefully the latter cancels out the other when i breathe on ppl horn

didnt know about the oregano thing
malu

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01/09/2006 05:01 AM
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good advice ono,,, yes,, dilat told me a lot about oregeno yesterday,, i will go to the healthfood store today and get some,, cranberries and garlic are awesome,,, part of my life,, too,, just hold your hand over your mouth when you speak
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01/09/2006 07:06 AM
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BRAVO, AC 57003!!!!!!!!!
quote that needs repeating:Hmm, with a root canal perhaps you've already strayed beyond the possibility of "natural healing"?

MY TRUE STORY:

A long time ago I had all of my mercury fillings replaced with first-generation plastic composites, figuring that it was the "right thing to do" in my quest (back then) for "perfect health". The dentist doing the work remarked at the time that the drillings were quite shallow and probably didn't need to be made and filled in the first place (but that's another story). Unfortunately those composite fillings didn't last more than a few months before they began cracking and falling out in bits and pieces. Then I was stuck with a choice of returning to amalgam fillings or waiting for plastic filling technology to catch up with my teeth.

So Phase II of this health experiment became, "How long can drilled cavities remain unfilled?" At least seven years in my case - except for one upper tooth. At that time in my life I ate a mostly alkaline diet (macrobiotic/vegan) and religiously rinsed my mouth out with water and brushed after every meal. But the drilled hole in one upper tooth was a bit difficult to thoroughly clean, and decay resumed there. The pulp chamber was eventually breached, but no, I didn't run back to the dentist for help. It really didn't hurt that bad, and eventually it didn't hurt at all, as long as I watched my diet and rinsed out the cavity after eating. I could actually see the nerve root with my little dental mirror. No wonder people used to think that worms caused cavities!

Over the course of several more months, nature consumed the entire nerve and tooth root all the way to its end in the bone, and an abcess formed in my gum above the tooth. That abcess finally broke open and I had a bit more mess to rinse out for a while. But eventually I had a clean hole all the way from the crown of the tooth up through the root channel and out the top of my upper jaw and gumline. Of course this development made rinsing the whole affair a whole lot easier. Throughout all this the other root of the tooth remained intact.

I maintained this oral state of affairs, with one thoroughly "consumed" tooth root and several other drilled but unfilled cavities, for MANY months before I finally found a dentist that I believed would 1) not judge me a lunatic for the course of events my mouth had suffered and 2) be able to fix the holes in my mouth without resorting to mercury fillings. Third-generation plastic composites were used this time around and have mostly been successful. However, that one diseased tooth could not be saved and was extracted. The remaining root was extremely strong however and it took all of my dentist's strength to pull it out, even after breaking it into several pieces.

WHAT I LEARNED:

Even outright abcesses are not necessarily deadly. They can actually be part of a healing process of sorts. In any case, it is certainly possible to live with a less-than-perfect set of teeth for a LONG time. Lack of dental services in TEOTWAKI scenarios are probably not as bad as one might think. In fact, our ancestors have been doing without dentistry for millenia and they survived long enough to produce us. Better to worry about _what_ you will eat rather than how you will be able to chew it. Then take some care to clean after eating. You WILL survive, and can even THRIVE. I did._______________

I have had a similar experience as above, but I gargled with hydrogen peroxide, and I used a tincture of echinacea triple plus on my tooth daily while it was problematic.

It still gives me some problems from time to time, and from time to time I do the above...but overall, I still have the tooth, and I still care for it on my own.

I am so tired of professionals who profess to do miracles while taking miraculous sums of money from those who have no choice but to pay up or go off on their own. To go off on your own, is quite scarey and requires a huge measure of self confidence and quite a bit of intuitive medical knowledge. Luckily I have both as the above quote poster.

Just know that you do not have choices...study, learn, and speak up for yourself. Good luck to all those who chose to go it alone.
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01/09/2006 07:07 AM
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Re: Alternative cures for root canal infection?
You can't reverse or cure tooth decay just the infection that may occur with it. But sooner or later the infection is gonna return and the rot will continue.
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01/09/2006 08:27 AM
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I had the same problem and in order to save my inmune system I gave it the Silverstein Treatment dynamite PULL IT!!
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couple quick tips

If you are actually in pain?

50/50 Hydrogen Peroxide / water GARGLE. DO NOT SWALLOW.

THEN RINSE AGAIN A COUPLE TIMES WITH WATER

heavy breathing can actually make the pain bearable - LOTS of deep heavy breathing.
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01/09/2006 08:34 AM
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Eugenia Caryophyllus oil .
jus put a drip on it ,and after the pain wil be gone .
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01/09/2006 08:37 AM
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Re: Alternative cures for root canal infection?
GOLDENSEAL POWDER - Brush the area with it and then mix a bit with water and hold it on the area for a minute. Do this every three to four hours until the infection begins to abate.....and it will.
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I use Dr. Schulze's anti-plague formula to heal tooth infections. The formula consists of organic apple cider vinegar, horseradish root, garlic, onion, ginger and cayenne pepper. I take a few drops and let it set over the infection for a minute before swallowing. This way it fights the infection both externally and internally.
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"50/50 Hydrogen Peroxide / water GARGLE. DO NOT SWALLOW"

I have a tooth that had compound fractures and eventually broke off, its still in my mouth. I use hydrogen peroxide on my tooth, which may be diluted out of the bottle, I don't know. Its the bottle, about 12 oz you can get at Long's or Rite Aid for 50 cents to one dollar. So, I use a water pik with water for one to two minutes, irrigating my tooth in the fracture area, then, I use about one oz hydrogen peroxide straight out of the bottle and irrigate the fracture with that for maybe 15 second at most. I get instant pain relief (the pain totally disappears in a couple hours) Then rinse well 3 or 4 times. One time I had a troubled throat along with my tooth aching. I rinse, but a tad bit of hydroperoxide went down my throat. I thought, damn, not supposed to swallow this stuff. Result? My throat problem disappeared! I found out by accident that a very, very small amount left over after rinse is beneficial to a sore throat.

Buy the water pik and buy the peroxide.
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01/09/2006 05:52 PM
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61402,

I had to look it up, was wondering if in context you meant anti-plaque (PLAQUE) formula:

[link to members.tripod.com]

Nope I presumed wrong, it is an anti-plague (PLAGUE) formula.

---snip---
Take 1 part - FRESH chopped ORGANIC Garlic Cloves (Anti-Bacterial/Fungal/Viral/Parasitical), 1 part - FRESH chopped Onions (HOTTEST available - similar to Garlic), 1 part - grated Ginger Root (Circulation - Extremities), 1 part - Horseradish Root (Circulation - Head), and 1 part - FRESH chopped Cayenne Peppers (HOTTEST Habenero available - Super Blood Stimulant).
---snip---

Sounds alot like my regular cooking, they forgot the cilantro though :-)
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01/09/2006 06:01 PM
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Thanks malu!
flower

Yep just chewing pure organic spice stopped my tooth infections AND the decay!

It's one of the most powerful natural antibiotics.
But be aware that they sell majoran as oregano in the US so get it from a wholesale shop. Of course best would be oregano leaves if you can get them.

You can add pure cold pressed organic olive oil swooshing around in your mouth until it gets a cloudy look.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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H2O2 did come nothing near the effects of oregano spice.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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01/09/2006 06:18 PM
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OP, why not just visit your dentist? Is it a matter of money, or an extreme fear of dentists? Just curious.
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01/09/2006 06:28 PM
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One clove of garlic chopped, with a bit of honey ("helps the medicine o down").....twice daily.

Secondly, capsules of activated charcoal from the health-food section of the grocery store...maybe even walmart by the vitamins...take as directed....(toxins are "caught" by the charcoal and flushed out of the body).

My kids have used these two for multiple problems, including root canal problems. (We NEVER go to dentists or doctors.)
malu

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01/09/2006 06:30 PM
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chewing my oregeno right now dilat,,, smiling with sh*t in my teeth,,, lmao,,, oh well,,, see what happens?
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YES, I personally had an experience where I inadvertently cured a root infection. I was scheduled for the usual root canal job when I got a cold.
To get rid of the cold I took 5000 mgs or more of vitamin C for several days.
Result - cold gone, infection in root gone.
Five years later that tooth bothered me again, but xrays showed NO infection. I did get it capped. That was at least 15 years ago. No more problems.

Your dentist could prescribe antibiotics that would clear it up just as they clear up infections in other parts of the body. Of course that would not add any $$$$ to their pockets.

ROOT CANALS ARE A SCAM!
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I am OP.

In my case it´s I try to stay clear of dentists as much as possible.

I have heard about the Oregano alot in this forum. I find it hard to believe that it is so good, but I will try all. I put Oregano on my pizza, but I will try to get a fresh plant and start chewing .

I will try all.

Any new suggestions?

And thank you for the aide.
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Tom Hanks ice skate worked pretty well. But hey thats just a movie..
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See a root-canal specialist (endodontist). It will save your tooth.
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MYRRH is for any king of gum disease. Get powdered kind and brush your teeth with it instead of toothpaste.