Was Jesus a Gnostic? | |
starlight afar User ID: 742 United States 01/09/2006 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, I believe he was. Books were removed from the Bible by the Church Fathers and some of those Books like The Book of Thomas and Philip say the wedding feast of Cana was his marriage to Mary Magdeline, of course these books were removed, how else can you make Jesus divine if he was a married man? Another fact, the Pharisees call him Rabbi, now Rabbis had to married men I read. Please don't tell me they were just being silly to him, these guys were the strict bunch of Jews and that they followed the Law, so they let on. |
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Optimistic Aussie from Perth User ID: 61418 Australia 01/09/2006 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Actual Christianity is epitomized by the I Corinthians 13 read at the recent state funeral for murdered Princess Diana. We are here on a mission, to do good for humanity as a whole, leaving life to dwell thereafter in the Creator's own dwelling-place, the simultaneity of eternity. The gnostic, such as the Manichean or Bogomil, rejects this. For him, or her, in the material world, Satan is absolute monarch; only through a "spiritual world" can we escape from Satan's absolute rule, to find a better dwelling-place in death or, perhaps, Rapture. Thus, as I Corinthians 13 reminds us, in exemplary fashion, the Gnostic is no Christian, but is, with all his spiritual and other personal rituals, as "nothing;" he has abandoned his mission: his responsibility for the condition of all mankind, to the limit of his or her powers to affect this." [link to www.larouchepub.com] |
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Optimistic Aussie from Perth User ID: 61418 Australia 01/09/2006 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Another label" Helps if you understand the clowns that are behing gnosticism(-: [link to www.larouchepub.com] snip: "By "gnostic," one signifies, in practice, the substitution of a controlling form of arbitrary belief in some unknowable principle, such as "secret knowledge," which is deemed to be "self-evident," even when its existence is unprovable by rational means. Examples of typical gnostic beliefs include Physiocrat François Quesnay's laissez-faire, and Adam Smith's plagiarism of Quesnay's term, under the substituted name of "free trade." In effect, Smith copied the text of the book, but added his own title." Snip:...fine selection here. "Those nasty meanings of "popular opinion" which I address here, more or less took over official English-language usage in the U.S.A., under the influence of those utopian uses of the term "democracy" which have been practiced in the U.S. during the recent thirty-five-odd years. As I shall explain here in due course, those usages echo the "bugger" sect's doctrine of "The Elect," a term synonymous with much of the contemporary U.S. use of the term "Establishment." The transmission of that doctrine into modern times, appeared in the guise of such forms of empiricism as the teachings of such modern gnostics as Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, Bernard Mandeville, Physiocrat François Quesnay, David Hume, Adam Smith, Jeremy Bentham, and Immanuel Kant." Also the Moonies are a gnostic cult. |
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Optimistic Aussie from Perth User ID: 61418 Australia 01/09/2006 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To cap it all off. "The introduction of gnosticism, together with Aristotle, into western Europe came chiefly from the Emperor Constantine's Byzantine tradition. The motive for this is found in the Code of Constantine's predecessor, Diocletian, whose social-economic dogma prescribed both a zero-technological-growth social order, and the axiomatic premises for what emerged out of Rome's "Dark Age," as western European feudalism. Virtually all gnostic cults, including those, such as Pietro Pomponazzi's mortalist doctrine, were introduced to western Europe from Byzantium, either directly, or through Gasparo Contarini's Venice and his teacher's, Pomponazzi's Padua. The pivotal element in this process of corruption, was Venice's controlling role in the crusades, and the role of the victors of the Fourth Crusade, in particular, in launching the Welf League's insurgency against the Hohenstaufen in mid-Thirteenth-Century Europe." [link to www.larouchepub.com] |
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Zions Fled User ID: 713 United States 01/09/2006 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "By "gnostic," one signifies, in practice, the substitution of a controlling form of arbitrary belief in some unknowable principle, such as "secret knowledge," which is deemed to be "self-evident," even when its existence is unprovable by rational means. Examples of typical gnostic beliefs include Physiocrat François Quesnay's laissez-faire, and Adam Smith's plagiarism of Quesnay's term, under the substituted name of "free trade." In effect, Smith copied the text of the book, but added his own title." Quantum physics is scientifically proving the indwelling of God. It is sad we won't listen to science when they talk of the spirit yet we listen to so called men of God. |
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starlight afar User ID: 742 United States 01/09/2006 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And who wrote the New Testament first, the Catholic Church. Did the Catholic Church like gnostics, heck no, they burned them at the stake. In fact they burned Protestants too at the stake later. Oh how we follow those who did all these shameful crimes against God and humans who believed differently. My point is what makes us so possitive the New Testament has not been tampered by so called ungodly writers? |
PACNWguy (OP) User ID: 60206 United States 01/09/2006 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Jesus knew he had a physical body Jesus knew He was God in the flesh Jesus knew he arose bodily from the grave Jesus knows he ascended bodily to heaven and will return bodily to earth” Gnostics believe all of the above. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59297 United States 01/09/2006 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus could have been many things. the most probable is that he is a mythological figure created by the gnostics to usher in the new piscean age. he could have been a real jewish man who was crucified and DIED, and then had the piscean solar myth woven into his story by the gnostics. some scholars theorize that the patriarchs of the old testament are actually mythological figures patterned after the great pharoahs of egypt. maybe, jesus was actually descended from the pharoahs of egypt. the pharoahs of egypt were the "personifications" of the sun of God on earth, God on earth. jesus became the same thing. it is also very telling that jesus resembles a young zues. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61396 United Kingdom 01/09/2006 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theres a middle man between us and the Holy Spirit and he is called the spirit of Mars, the Father. When the Father dwelled in me he would tell me to come away from her, but the Christ in me refused, because the Christ in me didnt want to judge them like the Father does, so the Christ in me overcame the Father, so my spirit moved from the spirit of Mars to the spirit of Mercury. All of us walk in shadows, and we mirror its reflections, its just a case of looking in the right mirror and finding truth. Love is truth, its the only thing worth sacrificing ego for! it allows you to overcome, to walk in the shadow of things of the Holy Spirit |
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Que User ID: 51504 United States 01/09/2006 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ageeing with ac-43505 post--- Jesus the Christ had a physical body and He was the Christ from Mary's womb,when He hung on the cross for mankind's sins,when He Bodily rose again from the dead on the 3rd day as the prophets fortold (and as He fortold as well) and He is the Christ as He is curently at the Right Hand of Father-God and He will be the Christ as well when He bodily returns and destroys the forces of the Anti-Christ and comes for His Bride (the Church/Christians) And He will be the Christ in eternity. "Lord Jesus...let the light of Your face & LOVE shine down on our hearts and let us** FEEL** it...." [email protected] |
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Sophia User ID: 23 New Zealand 01/09/2006 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "“Jesus knew he had a physical body Jesus knew He was God in the flesh Jesus knew he arose bodily from the grave Jesus knows he ascended bodily to heaven and will return bodily to earth” Gnostics believe all of the above." I'm reading a book named Jesus and the Goddess, by Tim Freke, which outlines early gnostic beliefs. According to his research gnostics, did not believe Jesus Christ the man, ever lived, he was a myth. Gnostics believe it was an allegory. |
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