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Why do you do it? I'm not talking about throwing insults around in arguments. I'm talking about the people who get off on trash talking people, for no real reason. What exactly is the problem with people like this? Is it lack of self-esteem? Obviously, there are those who feel so crappy about themselves that the only way they know to make themselves feel better is to put others down. If that is the case, why not just work on your self-esteem rather than attempting to hurt others? There is at least one little thing about every single person in the world that can be complimented. Why not try to dish out compliments rather than insults? Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if people threw out compliments like they do insults? Why not try to make people feel better about themselves rather than worse? Making people feel better automatically makes you feel better. The world seems to be so full of adults acting like bratty little kids, and there are people that enjoy that. I don't get it. Peace.

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yeah, self esteem can be it.

But also arrogance, self importance... these words come from ignorance.

Almost everyone thinks he/she is important or have things in their lives that he/she considers important.

But nothing is import, absolutely nothing.

Think about it.

At the moment you consider something (an action, intention, person, identity, etc) important... you're making an out of balance view.

So long we can't get rid off our importances in life.. our lives and those of others will be off balance. You will experience words as; lack, racism, arrogance, fear, etc etc.
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yeah, self esteem can be it.

But also arrogance, self importance... these words come from ignorance.

Almost everyone thinks he/she is important or have things in their lives that he/she considers important.

But nothing is import, absolutely nothing.

Think about it.

At the moment you consider something (an action, intention, person, identity, etc) important... you're making an out of balance view.

So long we can't get rid off our importances in life.. our lives and those of others will be off balance. You will experience words as; lack, racism, arrogance, fear, etc etc.
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Absolutely. Great post :).

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I don't trash talk people. I try to fix them. And if they argue a stupid point then i lambast them to wake them up. Then i inject knowledge into their head. I do it out of genuine love for humanity.
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I don't trash talk people. I try to fix them. And if they argue a stupid point then i lambast them to wake them up. Then i inject knowledge into their head. I do it out of genuine love for humanity.
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LOL. What if they don't want to be "fixed"? What if they think you need "fixed"?
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Probably a sign of how much some people are under stress. And it doesn't help that people eat crappy which contributes to a lack of feel-good neurotransmitters like serotonin. They rant off without thinking. But yeah, some of them seem to enjoy it a little too much . . .


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Hate speech is not necessarily free speech. To deliberately try to insult,injure or otherwise assault people under it's guise is deplorable IMO. It incites reaction and hate. There is no real discussion under this scenario. No understanding and no search for truth or common ground. Degrading ethnic/religious types or women seems to be popular here. Paranoia and fear disables clear vision. Those that enable it will fall victim to it in the long run.
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Great thread, OP. I've asked myself this same question so many times. I've never HAD to be around people like this growing up but I do have some very close people to me now that are exactly like this and it's one of the worse traits, imho. I have kind of a hard time dealing with it and many times I point out that I don't like those comments or they have a skewed view of the world but it's so ingrained that I normally just keep my mouth shut because it's people old enough that they most likely won't change now. I can't rant enough about how much I loathe this quality in a person and I sometimes am embarrassed when out about it.

The only conclusion I've come to is they have never learned how to make themselves feel good, it always has be a comparison so they feel exalted. I should shut up now.hiding
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I don't put people down but people shouldn't be so thin-skinned either.

Sometime trolls and bullies do what they do because some people over-react or are easily riled up and it's fun for them - it gives them a sense of power.

Ultimately people should take some responsibility for their own feelings - too many people get 'hurt' even when someone simply disagrees with them, offers even very constructive criticism or has different tastes.

It is amazing how many people take even their political opinions or musical tastes personally as though they are extensions of their own ego, and take even simple disagreements as a personal attack.

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Here's an example. I took my hubby to one of my favorite breakfast diners that was kinda edgy in my home city. We didn't know each other very well at the time and he is very conservative and I like to be around different people although we're both traditional people if that makes sense.

The waitress came to our table with her tattooed arms and a barbed wire necklace to take our order. My husband looked at her like she had 3 heads, he just stared. She left and I started talking about other things and he commented on if I saw "that". Well, yes, I did and I didn't really think there was anything to talk about but he stared at her all the way to and fro and wanted to have a conversation about it. I was hoping she didn't hear him since I'm skeptical of what people do to my food, anyway. We learned a little more about each other through that experience but I've had experiences with other people that were loud and embarrassing like when people have something they have no control over, it just sounds mean and why stare at them from the moment you see them until they walk all the way across the room? I really don't get it. Do they not know that's rude and unnecessary? If a person has vitaligo staring them down the whole time is not going to correct it and only makes that person feel uncomfortable.
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Here's an example. I took my hubby to one of my favorite breakfast diners that was kinda edgy in my home city. We didn't know each other very well at the time and he is very conservative and I like to be around different people although we're both traditional people if that makes sense.

The waitress came to our table with her tattooed arms and a barbed wire necklace to take our order. My husband looked at her like she had 3 heads, he just stared. She left and I started talking about other things and he commented on if I saw "that". Well, yes, I did and I didn't really think there was anything to talk about but he stared at her all the way to and fro and wanted to have a conversation about it. I was hoping she didn't hear him since I'm skeptical of what people do to my food, anyway. We learned a little more about each other through that experience but I've had experiences with other people that were loud and embarrassing like when people have something they have no control over, it just sounds mean and why stare at them from the moment you see them until they walk all the way across the room? I really don't get it. Do they not know that's rude and unnecessary? If a person has vitaligo staring them down the whole time is not going to correct it and only makes that person feel uncomfortable.
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Here's an example. I took my hubby to one of my favorite breakfast diners that was kinda edgy in my home city. We didn't know each other very well at the time and he is very conservative and I like to be around different people although we're both traditional people if that makes sense.

The waitress came to our table with her tattooed arms and a barbed wire necklace to take our order. My husband looked at her like she had 3 heads, he just stared. She left and I started talking about other things and he commented on if I saw "that". Well, yes, I did and I didn't really think there was anything to talk about but he stared at her all the way to and fro and wanted to have a conversation about it. I was hoping she didn't hear him since I'm skeptical of what people do to my food, anyway. We learned a little more about each other through that experience but I've had experiences with other people that were loud and embarrassing like when people have something they have no control over, it just sounds mean and why stare at them from the moment you see them until they walk all the way across the room? I really don't get it. Do they not know that's rude and unnecessary? If a person has vitaligo staring them down the whole time is not going to correct it and only makes that person feel uncomfortable.
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You surely are a wise person D
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Thanks for saying that because I really never know how I come across when posting-sometime crazy I'm sure-LOL.
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Why do you do it? I'm not talking about throwing insults around in arguments. I'm talking about the people who get off on trash talking people, for no real reason. What exactly is the problem with people like this? Is it lack of self-esteem? Obviously, there are those who feel so crappy about themselves that the only way they know to make themselves feel better is to put others down. If that is the case, why not just work on your self-esteem rather than attempting to hurt others? There is at least one little thing about every single person in the world that can be complimented. Why not try to dish out compliments rather than insults? Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if people threw out compliments like they do insults? Why not try to make people feel better about themselves rather than worse? Making people feel better automatically makes you feel better. The world seems to be so full of adults acting like bratty little kids, and there are people that enjoy that. I don't get it. Peace.

1dunno1
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Hi Indigo! Great post honey. I don't understand it myself. Grown adults acting like children you nailed it right there. Maybe they can't see past thier hate and for that I feel sorry for them. Don't they understand the chaos they put out will come back to them. I don't know maybe they are just miserable people. I have met a few of them in my time and they just bring everyone else down around them. I just stay far away...don't need that bullshit in my life lol

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Great thread, OP. I've asked myself this same question so many times. I've never HAD to be around people like this growing up but I do have some very close people to me now that are exactly like this and it's one of the worse traits, imho. I have kind of a hard time dealing with it and many times I point out that I don't like those comments or they have a skewed view of the world but it's so ingrained that I normally just keep my mouth shut because it's people old enough that they most likely won't change now. I can't rant enough about how much I loathe this quality in a person and I sometimes am embarrassed when out about it.

The only conclusion I've come to is they have never learned how to make themselves feel good, it always has be a comparison so they feel exalted. I should shut up now.hiding
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Thank you :). Yep, I know what you mean. It's like those people that people say you have to just get used to or something. Really? Umm, no. How about they have to just be respectful?
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I don't put people down but people shouldn't be so thin-skinned either.

Sometime trolls and bullies do what they do because some people over-react or are easily riled up and it's fun for them - it gives them a sense of power.

Ultimately people should take some responsibility for their own feelings - too many people get 'hurt' even when someone simply disagrees with them, offers even very constructive criticism or has different tastes.

It is amazing how many people take even their political opinions or musical tastes personally as though they are extensions of their own ego, and take even simple disagreements as a personal attack.
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LOL, yes. I know what you mean as well. There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. Everyone is free to have their own opinion. It is just when people put other people down for their opinion that it is a problem.
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Why do you do it? I'm not talking about throwing insults around in arguments. I'm talking about the people who get off on trash talking people, for no real reason. What exactly is the problem with people like this? Is it lack of self-esteem? Obviously, there are those who feel so crappy about themselves that the only way they know to make themselves feel better is to put others down. If that is the case, why not just work on your self-esteem rather than attempting to hurt others? There is at least one little thing about every single person in the world that can be complimented. Why not try to dish out compliments rather than insults? Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if people threw out compliments like they do insults? Why not try to make people feel better about themselves rather than worse? Making people feel better automatically makes you feel better. The world seems to be so full of adults acting like bratty little kids, and there are people that enjoy that. I don't get it. Peace.

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you are so beautiful....

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Here's an example. I took my hubby to one of my favorite breakfast diners that was kinda edgy in my home city. We didn't know each other very well at the time and he is very conservative and I like to be around different people although we're both traditional people if that makes sense.

The waitress came to our table with her tattooed arms and a barbed wire necklace to take our order. My husband looked at her like she had 3 heads, he just stared. She left and I started talking about other things and he commented on if I saw "that". Well, yes, I did and I didn't really think there was anything to talk about but he stared at her all the way to and fro and wanted to have a conversation about it. I was hoping she didn't hear him since I'm skeptical of what people do to my food, anyway. We learned a little more about each other through that experience but I've had experiences with other people that were loud and embarrassing like when people have something they have no control over, it just sounds mean and why stare at them from the moment you see them until they walk all the way across the room? I really don't get it. Do they not know that's rude and unnecessary? If a person has vitaligo staring them down the whole time is not going to correct it and only makes that person feel uncomfortable.
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Good example. Yep, that is the sort of thing I am talking about :).
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Why do you do it? I'm not talking about throwing insults around in arguments. I'm talking about the people who get off on trash talking people, for no real reason. What exactly is the problem with people like this? Is it lack of self-esteem? Obviously, there are those who feel so crappy about themselves that the only way they know to make themselves feel better is to put others down. If that is the case, why not just work on your self-esteem rather than attempting to hurt others? There is at least one little thing about every single person in the world that can be complimented. Why not try to dish out compliments rather than insults? Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if people threw out compliments like they do insults? Why not try to make people feel better about themselves rather than worse? Making people feel better automatically makes you feel better. The world seems to be so full of adults acting like bratty little kids, and there are people that enjoy that. I don't get it. Peace.

1dunno1
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


Hi Indigo! Great post honey. I don't understand it myself. Grown adults acting like children you nailed it right there. Maybe they can't see past thier hate and for that I feel sorry for them. Don't they understand the chaos they put out will come back to them. I don't know maybe they are just miserable people. I have met a few of them in my time and they just bring everyone else down around them. I just stay far away...don't need that bullshit in my life lol

hf
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Hey girl! I hope you are doing well! Thanks :). I do feel sorry for them as well. It doesn't have to be that way. for the most part, everyone can be happy and get along. Obviously, there are certain situations that no one would be happy in, but there are so many people that are just so negative...all the time. I don't either, that's for sure.

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Why do you do it? I'm not talking about throwing insults around in arguments. I'm talking about the people who get off on trash talking people, for no real reason. What exactly is the problem with people like this? Is it lack of self-esteem? Obviously, there are those who feel so crappy about themselves that the only way they know to make themselves feel better is to put others down. If that is the case, why not just work on your self-esteem rather than attempting to hurt others? There is at least one little thing about every single person in the world that can be complimented. Why not try to dish out compliments rather than insults? Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if people threw out compliments like they do insults? Why not try to make people feel better about themselves rather than worse? Making people feel better automatically makes you feel better. The world seems to be so full of adults acting like bratty little kids, and there are people that enjoy that. I don't get it. Peace.

1dunno1
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you are so beautiful....

rex
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Well thank you. Cute avatar :).
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You're not making fun of the right people...
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Defense Mechanism: Projection

Often done on a subconscious level but these individuals outward actions are a reflection of their own inner state of being (feelings & emotions) and they often wish to elicit or generate these feelings in others.

I.E. a deeply insecure person who cannot come to grips with that insecurity may desire to behave in a manner that makes others feel insecure.

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Projection is a primitive form of paranoia. Projection also reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the undesirable impulses or desires without becoming consciously aware of them; attributing one's own unacknowledged unacceptable/unwanted thoughts and emotions to another; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting". It is shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, feelings and impulses within oneself onto someone else, such that those same thoughts, feelings, beliefs and motivations are perceived as being possessed by the other.
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Defense Mechanism: Projection

Often done on a subconscious level but these individuals outward actions are a reflection of their own inner state of being (feelings & emotions) and they often wish to elicit or generate these feelings in others.

I.E. a deeply insecure person who cannot come to grips with that insecurity may desire to behave in a manner that makes others feel insecure.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
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Projection is a primitive form of paranoia. Projection also reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the undesirable impulses or desires without becoming consciously aware of them; attributing one's own unacknowledged unacceptable/unwanted thoughts and emotions to another; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting". It is shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, feelings and impulses within oneself onto someone else, such that those same thoughts, feelings, beliefs and motivations are perceived as being possessed by the other.
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Great post :)

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It can also be a form of projection. They project onto others what they feel about themselves. When they call you a loser, really this is a direct reflection of how they feel about themselves. It is likely too that they consider this how you think about them so they get the insult out there first. The more unkind they are to you, the more distance you create between you, and this results in them trying harder to get your attention
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Defense Mechanism: Projection

Often done on a subconscious level but these individuals outward actions are a reflection of their own inner state of being (feelings & emotions) and they often wish to elicit or generate these feelings in others.

I.E. a deeply insecure person who cannot come to grips with that insecurity may desire to behave in a manner that makes others feel insecure.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
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Projection is a primitive form of paranoia. Projection also reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the undesirable impulses or desires without becoming consciously aware of them; attributing one's own unacknowledged unacceptable/unwanted thoughts and emotions to another; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting". It is shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, feelings and impulses within oneself onto someone else, such that those same thoughts, feelings, beliefs and motivations are perceived as being possessed by the other.
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Great post :)

ohyeah
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Absolutely.... I have found this to be true that if I feel annoyed by someone or angered with someone, I might should examine my self closer as there is usually an aspect of me that resonates with that behavior that I need to be aware of....not that mine is manifested the same way(it could be) but look at ALL reasons beyond 'my opinion matters more than the other person'. hf It hasn't been real comfortable coming to terms with myself.....and it isn't instant...it's a daily battle. 1dunno1

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15% of the people are assholes. You can't change them so the best thing to do is ignore them. That's what they really hate.
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15% of the people are assholes. You can't change them so the best thing to do is ignore them. That's what they really hate.
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True. It seems to me to be higher than 15% though, lol.
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It can also be a form of projection. They project onto others what they feel about themselves. When they call you a loser, really this is a direct reflection of how they feel about themselves. It is likely too that they consider this how you think about them so they get the insult out there first. The more unkind they are to you, the more distance you create between you, and this results in them trying harder to get your attention
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peace

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Gjm gee m , why do you sound importand ?
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A real game is funnier anyway ..l
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Here's an example. I took my hubby to one of my favorite breakfast diners that was kinda edgy in my home city. We didn't know each other very well at the time and he is very conservative and I like to be around different people although we're both traditional people if that makes sense.

The waitress came to our table with her tattooed arms and a barbed wire necklace to take our order. My husband looked at her like she had 3 heads, he just stared. She left and I started talking about other things and he commented on if I saw "that". Well, yes, I did and I didn't really think there was anything to talk about but he stared at her all the way to and fro and wanted to have a conversation about it. I was hoping she didn't hear him since I'm skeptical of what people do to my food, anyway. We learned a little more about each other through that experience but I've had experiences with other people that were loud and embarrassing like when people have something they have no control over, it just sounds mean and why stare at them from the moment you see them until they walk all the way across the room? I really don't get it. Do they not know that's rude and unnecessary? If a person has vitaligo staring them down the whole time is not going to correct it and only makes that person feel uncomfortable.
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You surely are a wise person D
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Lol really!? She married the guy!
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