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Not like we couldn't see this coming and not like we haven't seen the same sort of thing happen at other times in history.
4 American diplomats dead in Libya, one was the US Ambassador.
In Egypt the American embassy stormed by an angry mob, American flags burned, etc etc etc...the "Religion of peace", "Such a great grand beautiful religion"...it's just a few radicals...Puke...how much more is it going to take before the American people realize that Islam is not just a religion. It's a way of life, it's a political ideological all encompassing deeply embedded machine and far more than just a "Religion".

It also happens to not only be completely exlcusionary of any other religion, it is openly hostile toward and ultimately seeks to destroy or conquor them, Islam does not tolerate anything BUT Islam, it doesn't even tolerate NO religion, there is nothing but Islam, or you are the enemy.

There are only different levels to which that is practiced. On the outskirts in the more moderate practicing, concepts such as Jihad are akin to exercises on paper....something to be thought about, but not acted on...as the Muslims become more "Orthadox" these teachings become matters of real life and death.

There are vast tomes written about this, there is no reason to cite thousands of sources, quote thousands of other writers or list the thousands of examples of violence, murder, extreme reactions and or the constant outrage and irrational acts of the Modern day Muslims and Islamic nations. There are enough examples where it is accepted as fact and is common knowledge to any reasonable and rational thinker. The rational episodes of Islam in general throughout the world have become the annecdotal ones, the irrational, violent and formenting of violence are the norm. You either accept that or you don't, but it does not change it. It truly doesn't even warrant debate any longer, Islam is a violent operating system that seeks to conquor and control, it is only a matter of what level the Muslim is pratcing it at as to what level of either the hypothetical running through real life Jihad, destroy, conquor violence there is.

The sooner this nation as well as all other non-Islamic nations realize or admit this the sooner us and the world as a whole will better equipted to deal with this very serious problem, and a very serious problem is what it is. No one really cares if people want to merely think they are gods themselves, the grand wazoos of the universe, or are created and descended from pumkin seeds...who cares...go ahead and believe anything you want no matter how silly or awesome, good or bad, right or wrong anyone else thinks about it....frankly I couldn't care less. It is when that belief in something, anything, becomes an operating system for governing not only the law of individuals, but entire nations that it MUST be dealt with on a different level, because in fact at that point, it exists on a different level.

We need to stop making excuses for them...oh well someone made a movie that called them Doodyheads...so that's why they flipped out and killed some Americans.....OMG it seems we set foot on their soil at the request of their govt!!!...well well, so THAT'S why they attacked us!...of course, totally understandable....WUT WUT WUT???...Someone made a cartoon that made fun of them flipping out so they fliped out?...well of course they did, that's OUR FAULT...of course it's OUR FAULT!....the rest of world doesn't subscribe to your laws...we have freedom of speech...and no one goes on a killing spree mob rule berserk out when someone makes Jesus out of piss or shit or burns bibles...people might not like it, but they don't kill anyone over it. That is how it works at the grownups table and if you cannot deal with that?...you aren't going to be allowed at the grownup table...tough shit if you don't like it, bratty kids never do...and if you scream, wail and throw shit over that?...you can sit at no table and be sent to your room...it only gets worse from there.

That childrens scenerio is translated to real world international acts of policy in the forms of sanctions, less or no trade, all the way up military action if heaven forbid that is required. The next time some armed mob approaches a US embassy they are met with a superior force...or pull the Embassy if we do not have the stomach to defend it for real. Most times by far that sort of last resort situation never has to happen, that is...when America is respected and seen as strong, yet fair. We aren't going to take any shit...don't start any, there won't be any, but if you do?....you are going to wish you never did in the end, which will be YOUR end, not ours.

THAT above is a very simplistic answer, but it's a start as far as a beginning of a mindset goes...a mindset that our current President has seemed to reject..he has more or less in nutshell publically stated that apparently we have the hurt the Muslims feelings again and that is the root cause of this latest mob riot and the murder of four US citizens. If you plug that into the childrens disipline problem scenerio it would equate to asking why little Johnny was so upset that he burned the house down and killed your daughter...is the reason really relevant? Unless your daughter was firing a flame thrower out a window at Johnny and he only repelled some of the fire in self defense and the house lit on fire in the course of that defense, then it really isn't...it doesn't matter if your Daughter made a meanie face at him or called him a dookie stain or if the daughter was there to tutor him in math and he hates math....his response was far and away outside of what could be considered a reasoned and rational response or reaction, or even that a response was deserved as many times not responding at all is really the "Adult" thing to do in the case of a taunt.

In any case you don't buy Johnny a lollipop and tell him to try and do better next time...you either throw his ass in jail or you execute him because he killed people...you solve the Johnny Jihad problem one way or the other and the solution isn't always going to one of understanding his butthurt "feelings" when he kills a little girl. It's also at this time that if there is any soul searching on a psychological level to be done you might just want to look into why Johnny wasn't concerned enough over what he might face as a result of him burning your daughter to death and why he wasn't afraid or concerned enough about his own fate, why he didn't have enough respect for life, limb, property and consiquence to not burn the house down and kill your daughter in the first place.

You also don't take the living remainder of your kids and runaway to go live in a boarded up house and live in fear hoping it never happens again....while simultaneously removing all the police and fireman from your city posting a few in your yard alone, open up all the jails in the city and hope that works out...which is exactly what I see so many of you doing when you say that we need to shun the world and bring all our troops home to protect the border. Sorry, but living in fear and isolation will not work for America. Not only is that something that Americans should never consider because we do NOT live in fear and isolation, it just will not work practically and logistically...just like the city run wild while you live in your boarded up house with a cop and a fireman parked on the front lawn will not work...soon there will be no water, no electricity, how will you get food?..what will happen when the gangs of released convicts organize and roll down your street and penetrate your defenses?...and do you really want to live in reduced conditions just so feel more secure for only a little while until that eventuality comes roaring down your road?....that is not the answer.

In fact there is NO easy answer. There are simplistic ways to illustrate the situation so that anyone can understand it, but what to do about it and how to deal with it?...that is a very complex and ever changing situation of international importance...the "Islam Problem"...and this may very well be one of if not THE most important long term issue that the entire world faces.

I know that trying to "Play nice", hand holding and even helping them has not worked, this is what Obama has done and it has brought us closer to full out theater war in the middle east which is currently in the process of virtually self destructing and eating it's own young. It was also extremely naive as well as foolish if he actually believed that course of action would actually do any good because it never has in the past. Whether you believe he is just epically naive or that he has a more nefarious agenda is cause for debate at least, but it is obvious now that his agenda has led to and fostered more violence and expansion of extremism, regardless.

We have been reactionary in military response, for lack of better terminology, killing them after they pull off some sort of attack over the years...Also hasn't worked very well although it engages our military on "their turf" so to speak, but where has that really gotten us?...not any real gains as far as long term results go...maybe it's disrupted some enclaves and had some effect of holding the tide at bay temporarily, but that is all it has done. It has also cost us a lot in the price of blood and money, have we really gotten a desirable value for the cost?....I don't think so...

Ignoring the problem has also not worked...the results of that were the Taliban taking over afghanistan and becoming a training ground for those who later committed the largest attack by modern Islam against the USA...at home...along with a hit parade of other violent and or oppressive acts of some of the most extreme behaviors the world has ever witnessed.

So if playing friend to them doesn't work, killing the ones that cross some line doesn't work, ignoring them doesn't work...what will?....

Because if nothing we are willing to try works?...we are only going to continue to face a growing, ever advancing and increasingly overtly violent psychopathic hoarde of Islamics that are governed and controled by not just a religion, but by a theocratic operating system of life and governance that knows no end other than total world domination. One that controls entire nation states as well as people...a lot of people...well over a billion to varying degrees.


As I watch the political pundits review the deaths of our Libyan diplomats and the assualt on our embassy in Egypt I have come to conclusion that we are sorrily prepared for dealing with this problem. In fact if anything we are currently making things worse. We are not dealing with the Islamic problem from a position of strength and that has not only never worked well for America in general, it's also never worked with or on the Islamics, at all...ever.

Eventually this juagernaught is going to meet the rest of the world head on, it will, because it is now and has been for a very long time been advancing toward a confrontation which it seems to desire. Since the rest of the world isn't on board with the program of being dominated in a global Islamic caliphate, one side or the other is going to be pushed back as the other resists...and on the scale of human kind that we are ALL involved in this, like it or not?....it could mean anything from several relatively large confrontations to an Armageddon world war....that is a very dark proposition if we allow it to progress that far....

Godspeed to all...I don't think it's too late to turn back....hope not anyway...but we are near, moving forward toward it and getting ever closer...
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I'm going to leave you guys to respond after you've had some time to digest this...be back later...
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Truth will out.
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You write nice and all, but you just do not live in reality SHR.
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SHR great post.

We have every Muslim anti-American at this point. And we still ask "who's the enemy?"

And look at the empty empty suit we have in office.

Equation for some serious serious problems
everything in its right place
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Nicely put..
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You write nice and all, but you just do not live in reality SHR.
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Why don't you enlighten us?
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You write nice and all, but you just do not live in reality SHR.
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We'll see...one thing I do know is that reality eventually comes to meet you face to face whether you believe in it or not...

So far I have had a pretty fair track record about being right and proven correct....I'd say ask Chris Stevens about reality, but he isn't talking any longer...
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There is a great need to distinguish tolerance. Not everything should be tolerated.
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You write nice and all, but you just do not live in reality SHR.
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We'll see...one thing I do know is that reality eventually comes to meet you face to face whether you believe in it or not...

So far I have had a pretty fair track record about being right and proven correct....I'd say ask Chris Stevens about reality, but he isn't talking any longer...
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The reality is, The United States is not a force for good on this earth anymore.

P.S. Those in control of Washington attacked America on 911.
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You write nice and all, but you just do not live in reality SHR.
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We'll see...one thing I do know is that reality eventually comes to meet you face to face whether you believe in it or not...

So far I have had a pretty fair track record about being right and proven correct....I'd say ask Chris Stevens about reality, but he isn't talking any longer...
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So you are saying you know for a fact he is dead and not in Paraquay in one of Bush's cabins on the ranch?

You are absolutely positive none of this was a fake movie to stir up the hate to get the sheeple fighting?

Mainstream media has never ever put a false spin on a story?
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clappa

We can all look back to this thread should Israel decide to take out Iran's nuclear facilities.

If even a simple cartoon or amateur film has such a massive impact on them, expect the worst...
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It wasn't the movie that cause this.

It was a planned attack. The movie was a cover for a protest, while extremest use this as an opportunity to attack the United States.

The question is who is ultimately behind this attack?

Jihadist (such as Al Qaeda)?
Iran (State sponsored terrorism)?
Israel (Mossad's dirty tricks)?
Elitist bankers (Illuminati agenda)?
Someone else (Disgruntled CIA operatives)?

Who had the most to gain here? The violence was planned, coordinated and executed. It was timed with a response and counter response to US actions.

...round up the usual suspects.
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Nice 'War on Islam' speech.

Why not borrow Brief's signature to end it?

Maybe you should ask Romney to be on his writing team. WAR! NUKE EM! AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!


The only thing that following what you believe gets us closer to is NWO.
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No matter what we do, in a few thousand years from now, no one will give a shit our society ever existed...

A little perspective.
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Thank you SHR for summing up the frustration and anger many of us feel.

I am sick of biting my tongue for fear of some libtard or jihad sympathizer going off.
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That's a masterpiece SHR!

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War will ensue, the west will win and the radicals will be written as devils in the history books.
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Nice 'War on Islam' speech.

Why not borrow Brief's signature to end it?

Maybe you should ask Romney to be on his writing team. WAR! NUKE EM! AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!


The only thing that following what you believe gets us closer to is NWO.
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Yea, it was well written, but a little too Neo-Con-ish
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Thank you SHR for summing up the frustration and anger many of us feel.

I am sick of biting my tongue for fear of some libtard or jihad sympathizer going off.
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You nay not bite your tongue, but TSA will squeeze your nipple while screaming "Al quaeda boobs!".

Those in control of Washington, operate Al queda.
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SHR great post.

We have every Muslim anti-American at this point. And we still ask "who's the enemy?"

And look at the empty empty suit we have in office.

Equation for some serious serious problems
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Nice post SHR. I'd have to say you are spot on!
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You write nice and all, but you just do not live in reality SHR.
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We'll see...one thing I do know is that reality eventually comes to meet you face to face whether you believe in it or not...

So far I have had a pretty fair track record about being right and proven correct....I'd say ask Chris Stevens about reality, but he isn't talking any longer...
 Quoting: SHR


The reality is, The United States is not a force for good on this earth anymore.

P.S. Those in control of Washington attacked America on 911.
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I'll never forget the day that I realized this. It was the ultimate kick in the gut.
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If I was President I would make a blanket statement and that would be to level Mecca. Period end of MY statement!

But that would only be done by a President with BALLS!
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There are crazy people of many religions.
Yes, even other religions kill for what they are taught.
Not even 200 years ago, you could face jail or even death for not going to catholic services.
Many members of protestant sects killed protestants of other sects in the USA as it was beginning because of what they were taught.
Many protestants recently have killed homosexuals because of what they are taught.
I have known muslims that think you should die for burning their book, and I have known some that would never feel that way.
Religion is a tool used by governments to take advantage of stupid people.
That's what makes the USA great, but we still have idiots that want their religion as the official religion.
Some of these countries are just becoming able to learn things from outside there own.
Every generation becomes more tolerant.
When people of all religions realize their rights end where others' begin, then we can be free.
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War will ensue, the west will win and the radicals will be written as devils in the history books.
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I'm not so sure the West would win, anymore. We are mostly a bunch of pansified momma's boys that don't have the stomach for real war anymore.

I mean, we demonize and prosecute our own soldiers for urinating on the corpses of the jihadis that just blew up their buddies.

Fuck that.

If we're going to fight a war, we need to totally annihilate and demoralize the enemy in every way possible, including and especially pissing on their dead bodies burying them face down with a pork chop jammed in their ass, so that they may never meet Allah in the afterlife.
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nice rant and summary SHR.

I dunno....call me stoopid if you like BUT..........

I look at this as an attack on the US Government and it's policies: NOT an attack on the American people.


They are fighting tyranny over there just as we ar here therefore they are our brothers in arms.

Just my $0.02
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What we could do is pull all our troops out of their neighborhood. Nobody I know has an interest in that part of the world. We're not over there defending our freedom. Just pull everyone out of the neighborhood and they can go to hell.
If gasoline costs $10 a gallon, then, it just costs $10 a gallon. Tough shit. We don't need to be over there stealing their oil or their poppies.

Don't forget to kick all the muslims out of the country and send them home.
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DAYUM!

Someone knocking on my door that fast????
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Nice 'War on Islam' speech.

Why not borrow Brief's signature to end it?

Maybe you should ask Romney to be on his writing team. WAR! NUKE EM! AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!


The only thing that following what you believe gets us closer to is NWO.
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I have a great idea! Why don't we help the Mo Brohood take over Egypt and sack the pro-US officers in that large well-equipped army.

Liberals will rewrite history till it comes to an end.

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