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Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!

 
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Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
On the other hand, 111 Democrats voted No!

Created by Bush and extended by Republicans.

Romney 2012


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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
On the other hand, 111 Democrats voted No!

Created by Bush and extended by Republicans.

Romney 2012


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Assholes.
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Just smile and wave, boys.

Smile and wave.
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hi Hey there Underminers of America. Hope you are having fun dismantling the Republic and instituting world government.
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What you fail to realize is....the ONLY reason the 111 voted no is that there already were the votes to pass it. If both houses were full of one or the other party, it would still pass. Government never gives up a power once it has it.....unless by force.
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What you fail to realize is....the ONLY reason the 111 voted no is that there already were the votes to pass it. If both houses were full of one or the other party, it would still pass. Government never gives up a power once it has it.....unless by force.
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Good comment. That's right...it was gonna pass. It's an odd law in that it uses language like "reasonable belief that one party is overseas and tied to terrorism"?

The police state wanted a more explicit statement like, "Never ending surveillance is legal wo warrants, restraint, minimization, or judicial sanction".

So...my thoughts are..."all calls from US to another US citizen residing inside the US" are routed to an overseas server...and thus...it becomes an overseas call, and then no warrant is needed. To route all domestic calls overseas might be a burden, but...the proof could be manufactured easily enough...and, usually No Notice is given to the parties being wiretapped, so "what standing to sue or challenge" does a citizen have when the police state does not disclose methods or facts that would be valuable to the defendant or suspect?
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The republicans have never seen a repressive law that they did not like....2012 amerika is 1929 Weimar...
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What you fail to realize is....the ONLY reason the 111 voted no is that there already were the votes to pass it. If both houses were full of one or the other party, it would still pass. Government never gives up a power once it has it.....unless by force.
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Sorry, but no...

If as many Republicans had voted against it as Democrats, it wouldn't have passed.

Here's the Republicans:

Rep. Dan Lungren (R-California) demanded that his colleagues support the bill. “This is critical to the protection of the American people,” he said.

Rep. Terry Gowdy (R-South Carolina), in a passionate plea, sided with Lungren. ”Intelligence is the lifeblood of our ability to defend ourselves,” he said. Moments later, he added: “Are we to believe that the Fourth Amendment applies to the entire world?”

Here's the Dems:

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-California) countered during a more than hour debate on the floor, urging the House to defeat the measure. “I think the government needs to comply with the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution all the time,” she said. “We can be safe while still complying with the Constitution of the United States.”

And in the Senate:

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) has put a hold on the matching bill in the Senate. Among other reasons, he said the government should disclose how many Americans’ communications have been intercepted under the law, which was adopted in 2008 as a way to legalize the Bush administration’s warrantless wiretapping program that was initiated in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.

So a Dem has managed to temporarily at least stop it in the Senate, after the Republicans, who wrote it and passed it initially, passed the extension overwhelmingly in the House.

It's like a lot of you forget how bad Bush was...
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and thanks for the pin ;)
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How did Ron Paul vote?
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who voted what:

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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
On the other hand, 111 Democrats voted No!

Created by Bush and extended by Republicans.

Romney 2012


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Hey, COCKSUCKER, presidents sign bills into law, assfuck.
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
On the other hand, 111 Democrats voted No!

Created by Bush and extended by Republicans.

Romney 2012


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21130561


Hey, COCKSUCKER, presidents sign bills into law, assfuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16277870


Yep, Bush signed it into law, and the law that Obama MAY sign will be passed by the Republicans in the House, by a huge majority.

Because, you know, laws have to be passed by the Congress and Senate BEFORE a President can sign them.

Maybe you were absent that day from school or something...?
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
On the other hand, 111 Democrats voted No!

Created by Bush and extended by Republicans.

Romney 2012


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Hey, COCKSUCKER, presidents sign bills into law, assfuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16277870


Here's this will help you understand how laws are made.

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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
When are all you sheeple going to realize, there is NO DIFFERENCE between Dems and Repubs. They just put on the show to keep you fooled and it seems to still work for them.
They all follow the same hidden, supreme leaders, or they die. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out at this point of the game.
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None of this matters because its being done, with or without a "warrant"! All electronic communications are monitored using very high tech AI controlled "programs". All of us using any type of electronic communications devices, systems, whatever, are being monitored! Surveillance systems of all types gather information about users, and that information is attached to your "profile". All of us are being simulated in an AI controlled "program" that generates "feedback". It takes in information, processes it, and generates a response that is fed back to the user/s via the carrier waves. The signals are "silent", operating in the background, undectable without the right equipment. Bill Gates and friends spoke about this years ago.
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
Paul voted NO.
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Heh. Sounds like Democrats have something to hide...
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
What a fucking mockery of the constitution. Then again, it's, "just a goddamn piece of paper", right? I fucking hate our political system.
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talk about representing the people...
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
the only people who say shit like this are Repubs who are embarrassed to acknowledge that their party is a bigger enemy to American freedom than the dems.

When are all you sheeple going to realize, there is NO DIFFERENCE between Dems and Repubs. They just put on the show to keep you fooled and it seems to still work for them.
They all follow the same hidden, supreme leaders, or they die. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out at this point of the game.
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
the only people who say shit like this are Repubs who are embarrassed to acknowledge that their party is a bigger enemy to American freedom than the dems.

When are all you sheeple going to realize, there is NO DIFFERENCE between Dems and Repubs. They just put on the show to keep you fooled and it seems to still work for them.
They all follow the same hidden, supreme leaders, or they die. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out at this point of the game.
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You are simply retarded.
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
the only people who say shit like this are Repubs who are embarrassed to acknowledge that their party is a bigger enemy to American freedom than the dems.

When are all you sheeple going to realize, there is NO DIFFERENCE between Dems and Repubs. They just put on the show to keep you fooled and it seems to still work for them.
They all follow the same hidden, supreme leaders, or they die. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out at this point of the game.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594

 Quoting: BZB


Actually, Democrats usually take advantage of existing laws and make it worse whenever they have control over Congress, WH, etc.

Pay a little closer to that...
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
the only people who say shit like this are Repubs who are embarrassed to acknowledge that their party is a bigger enemy to American freedom than the dems.

When are all you sheeple going to realize, there is NO DIFFERENCE between Dems and Repubs. They just put on the show to keep you fooled and it seems to still work for them.
They all follow the same hidden, supreme leaders, or they die. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out at this point of the game.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651594

 Quoting: BZB


burnit
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Re: Warrentless Wiretap extension passes - only 7 Republicans vote NO!
So, voting democrat or republican means choosing between social tyranny or monetary tyranny. You must choose which one is less evil and vote for it.

Do yourselves a favor and seriously consider voting libertarian. Less is more when it comes to government meddling.
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No suprise here. The Rs are BIG authoritarians. They LOVE the police state. But further, they love wrapping themselves in 'patriotism' and symbols and trinkets that give the faux appearance of 'loving' America -all the while destroying everything associated with true freedom and civil liberties.
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So, voting democrat or republican means choosing between social tyranny or monetary tyranny. You must choose which one is less evil and vote for it.

Do yourselves a favor and seriously consider voting libertarian. Less is more when it comes to government meddling.
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Libertarian just means completely giving over governement to corporations... no thanks...
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So, voting democrat or republican means choosing between social tyranny or monetary tyranny. You must choose which one is less evil and vote for it.

Do yourselves a favor and seriously consider voting libertarian. Less is more when it comes to government meddling.
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Yes, because there are so many Libertarian Utopian societies around the world.

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