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One ran a low-profile Christian charity from a sleepy suburb east of Los Angeles. The other was a financially strapped gas station operator just out of federal prison.

In the last year, these men, both Egyptian immigrants, became unlikely collaborators in an endeavor that has shaken the stability of the Middle East.

[link to www.latimes.com]
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The film maker isn't responsible for what happened at those embassies. He has the right to poke fun at whoever he wants in his films.
 Quoting: Erectus 23652320


If I yell FIRE!!!! in a crowded theater and someone gets trampled to death in the ensuing panic, am I liable for that persons death?
Shouldn't the people in the theater have acted more calmly in evacuating instead of behaving in an instinctive manner?


We understand instinctive behavior.
We understand how people will behave when exposed to certain stimuli. Panic, Anger, Lust, Greed, racial tensions, on and on...

We understand these instinctive behaviors and the response that ill usually result, and that is why you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded theater despite your 2nd amendment rights.


Now, since we already know how the Muslims will behave when their prophet is ridicule due to past incidents, is is really a Free Speech issue when we know the outcome will be deadly.

I think the producers of this movie knew that the outcome would be deadly for someone and that is why I think they should be held liable, criminally and financially.
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The film maker isn't responsible for what happened at those embassies. He has the right to poke fun at whoever he wants in his films.
 Quoting: Erectus 23652320


If I yell FIRE!!!! in a crowded theater and someone gets trampled to death in the ensuing panic, am I liable for that persons death?
Shouldn't the people in the theater have acted more calmly in evacuating instead of behaving in an instinctive manner?


We understand instinctive behavior.
We understand how people will behave when exposed to certain stimuli. Panic, Anger, Lust, Greed, racial tensions, on and on...

We understand these instinctive behaviors and the response that ill usually result, and that is why you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded theater despite your 2nd amendment rights.


Now, since we already know how the Muslims will behave when their prophet is ridicule due to past incidents, is is really a Free Speech issue when we know the outcome will be deadly.

I think the producers of this movie knew that the outcome would be deadly for someone and that is why I think they should be held liable, criminally and financially.
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El Fagr, a Cairo independent news source, reported on Sept. 8th that Jihad groups had vowed to burn the Cairo embassy to free the Blind Sheikh.
[link to blazingcatfur.blogspot.com]
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El Fagr, a Cairo independent news source, reported on Sept. 8th that Jihad groups had vowed to burn the Cairo embassy to free the Blind Sheikh.
[link to blazingcatfur.blogspot.com]

No mention of any movie.
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it's in the opioids and mull... there are thousands of web sites and movies devoted to this sort of thing.. "let's go all FRENZY!!" is something you get used to with the middle east.....

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And exactly what is the point of the Feds tracking down this person again, if not but to deliver him to the lions of Islam? They are going to throw him underneath the bus, serves him right. It is his movie, let him fend for it.
 Quoting: BZB


Actually, there are several Laws on the Books. You can not stand up in a crowded theater and yell "FIRE! FIRE!" to see now many people can be killed and trampled when all of the people rush for the exits.

The same thing applies to creation of hateful Movies, Books or Magazines. If they incite to violence those who have been injured have a right of redress. The families of murdered men or women can seek recourse, and the injured victims can pursue civil litigation for injuries and pain and suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316


If I post a Youtube video yelling FIRE and you believe it, run and hurt yourself am I liable?

And who exactly decides what is hateful?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


You totally miss the point of that law. It's like wow, completely over your head. Your view must be in black and white when it comes to life and things must be perfectly detailed in many pages to explain simple points.

That's more or less the vibe I got from that response.

And no, if somebody makes a YouTube video yelling FIRE and somebody runs and gets hurt, then the up-loader is not going to get in trouble, because that would be retarded. But if you were in a theater and yelled that, it would create a panic, and lots of people could get hurt because of that panic, and that's why there are laws preventing bad people from doing such a thing.

It's probably too complicated for you to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16439676


I didn't miss anything with your response. All laws are in their nature black and white and change every few generations.

It's like wow totally over your view apparently.

You never answered my question, WHO decides what is hateful and what is not?
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They also threw the full weight of a federal manhunt at someone who forgot to wear a condom in Amsterdam too..
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If I make a film about the sow of Islam eating pork with her piglets, will I get thrown to the Muhammad death trap?

Freedom of Speech is freedom of speech.

If people can make films about Jesus being a drugged hippie or write books about Judas having gay sex with Judas, then Islam is equally fair game.

Hell, all religions are fair game!
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Wait a minute, if you stick your dick in your own butthole, that makes you gay? SOB!
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And exactly what is the point of the Feds tracking down this person again, if not but to deliver him to the lions of Islam? They are going to throw him underneath the bus, serves him right. It is his movie, let him fend for it.
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Maybe they'll just give him a plane ticket home to Israel, for his own protection.
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... WHO decides what is hateful and what is not?
 Quoting: IRQ_1





Umm ... if you really need to know the answer, look no further than who are the one abusing the word "HATE" ...

Who coins the term "HATE speech" ?

Who coined the term "HATE crime" ?

Was it the hard working and God Fearing Christians ?

Or was it the Libtards who do not believe in God ?

Whatever that the libtards find offensive, they will affix the word "HATE" to it

If they do not like what you say, they will, through their media machinery, tell the world that you utter "HATE speech"

If they do not like what you do, they will, though their media machinery, proclaim to the world that you have done a despicable "HATE crime"

On the other hand, when they put the Crucifix into a glass of urine, it's okay, it's not hate, it's art, and they reward that "artist" a handsome amount of money and worship that guy like as if he's the second coming, or something like that




















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The film maker isn't responsible for what happened at those embassies. He has the right to poke fun at whoever he wants in his films.
 Quoting: Erectus 23652320


If I yell FIRE!!!! in a crowded theater and someone gets trampled to death in the ensuing panic, am I liable for that persons death?
Shouldn't the people in the theater have acted more calmly in evacuating instead of behaving in an instinctive manner?


We understand instinctive behavior.
We understand how people will behave when exposed to certain stimuli. Panic, Anger, Lust, Greed, racial tensions, on and on...

We understand these instinctive behaviors and the response that ill usually result, and that is why you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded theater despite your 2nd amendment rights.


Now, since we already know how the Muslims will behave when their prophet is ridicule due to past incidents, is is really a Free Speech issue when we know the outcome will be deadly.

I think the producers of this movie knew that the outcome would be deadly for someone and that is why I think they should be held liable, criminally and financially.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9897684


No, because yelling fire in theater, or wherever for that matter, is not protected speech, it's called raising an alarm...just like yelling "bomb" in an airport or theater, or "GUN" in a crowded place, there is a very big difference between that and making some derogatory statement either live or recorded, which is protected "free speech".
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I'd hunt him down to give him the Nobel peace prize.

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The filmmaker sure deserves it a lot more than Obummer.
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Actually, there are several Laws on the Books. You can not stand up in a crowded theater and yell "FIRE! FIRE!" to see now many people can be killed and trampled when all of the people rush for the exits.

The same thing applies to creation of hateful Movies, Books or Magazines. If they incite to violence those who have been injured have a right of redress. The families of murdered men or women can seek recourse, and the injured victims can pursue civil litigation for injuries and pain and suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316


If I post a Youtube video yelling FIRE and you believe it, run and hurt yourself am I liable?

And who exactly decides what is hateful?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


You totally miss the point of that law. It's like wow, completely over your head. Your view must be in black and white when it comes to life and things must be perfectly detailed in many pages to explain simple points.

That's more or less the vibe I got from that response.

And no, if somebody makes a YouTube video yelling FIRE and somebody runs and gets hurt, then the up-loader is not going to get in trouble, because that would be retarded. But if you were in a theater and yelled that, it would create a panic, and lots of people could get hurt because of that panic, and that's why there are laws preventing bad people from doing such a thing.

It's probably too complicated for you to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16439676


I didn't miss anything with your response. All laws are in their nature black and white and change every few generations.

It's like wow totally over your view apparently.

You never answered my question, WHO decides what is hateful and what is not?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


You never asked me a question, since I'm not the person you were talking to before. But I'm still flabbergasted by your comprehension. No there is no law that specifically says fire, but laws to prevent people from doing things similar to that scenario. Unfortunately for people like you every simple little detail has to be spelled out to the extreme, since you mind works in black and white.
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The Obama administration, meanwhile, has also asked YouTube to take another look at the video to determine whether it violates site content guidelines, although YouTube earlier this week reported that the video was within those guidelines.

[link to www.deadline.com]

Exactly WHY are we kissing these insane fucktards asses after they killed 4 of our people and are currently engaged in trying to wreck our embassies which happen to be soveriegn United States soil?....

WHY did Hillary the Secretary of freakin State issue a half hour long statement about how horrible this defaming of the insane fucktards prophet was?

WHY do we have Feds trying at all to track down whatever ahole made that shitty movie that talked badly about some shitty prophet?...

Just trying to to understand WHY we are doing all this stupid shit...
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What's the political fallout for an attack on the USA on the anniversary of 911?

It's Not The Movie...What's the political fallout for an attack on the USA on the anniversary of 911...

This had nothing at all to do with that movie, she just threw this shit against the wall, and the libtards believed it and ran with the story...

They rather sacrifice some poor Christian, saying it was an anti-Muslim movie, than have their election chances hurt...By looking incompetent on 911

But then what's new...She and Barry have done this before...

Remember Waco, and Ruby Ridge?

What's the political fallout for a attack on the USA on the anniversary of 911

Let's be passionate about this, people have lost their lives because of Obama and Hillary.

This doesn't count those we lost on 911, the current crisis was on the anniversary of 911

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asshole,no one wants to join you damn cult,go smoke some more meth and bang some hookers
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somebody from the 7th Century got dey feelings hurt cause da Truth?

problem, reaction, solution.

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What's the political fallout for an attack on the USA on the anniversary of 911?

It's Not The Movie...What's the political fallout for an attack on the USA on the anniversary of 911...

This had nothing at all to do with that movie, she just threw this shit against the wall, and the libtards believed it and ran with the story...

They rather sacrifice some poor Christian, saying it was an anti-Muslim movie, than have their election chances hurt...By looking incompetent on 911

But then what's new...She and Barry have done this before...

Remember Waco, and Ruby Ridge?

What's the political fallout for a attack on the USA on the anniversary of 911

Let's be passionate about this, people have lost their lives because of Obama and Hillary.

This doesn't count those we lost on 911, the current crisis was on the anniversary of 911

Thread: What's the political fallout for a attack on the USA on the anniversary of 911
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Obama the boob got caught with his pants down. More news coming out that he doesn't even bother to attend the national security briefings half the time, just gets the sheets from them and the MSM is already wailing that he reads them and doesn't need to be there...like they KNOW he reads them...yeah sure...while golfing...the Media is in a wild damage control off the rails frenzy...

So on the aniversary of 911 we have some "Libyan Security" detail from the govt...when the "govt" doesn't even exist yet, providing security for a US ambassador in an unstable and potentially hostile country...it was THAT detail that told the crowd what building Anderson was in, then he was killed...he was missing for 8 hours and who knows what the hell happened to him and 3 other Americans were killed along with him.

Then you have Egypt with riots going on, embassy being trashed and the Egyptians KNEW it was going to happen, so we knew it too.

So all this going on, the US State Dept issuing some chicken shit statements sympathizing with the rioting mob, the whitehouse has no clue WTF is going on and Obama goes to bed.

Next day the entire Media machine is pissed off at Romney because he said "WTF Goobs", Obama wakes up and offers some more sympathy, flies to Vegas, says, "Oh we'll send some guys to protect our people, now" and the entire State dept is running around like a retard with their pants on fire in total meltdown mode issuing mind numbing statements about some asshole movie that insults the prophet BLOWHAMMED as if it matters.

They don't have Bush to blame for this one, so the whole administration and every reporter on earth, like all of a sudden they're all investigative journalists again, is trying to hunt down and get to the bottom of who made this dipshit movie...

It's completely pathetic and a cluster fuck of epic proportions, even for this totally incompetent and epically fucked up pack of imbeciles that are charge now.

WTG...meanwhile things are spiraling out of control right now even worse...maybe the President will issue some "shout outs" or convene a national security meeting on the "Pimp wit a Limp" show...
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The film maker isn't responsible for what happened at those embassies. He has the right to poke fun at whoever he wants in his films.
 Quoting: Erectus 23652320


If I yell FIRE!!!! in a crowded theater and someone gets trampled to death in the ensuing panic, am I liable for that persons death?
Shouldn't the people in the theater have acted more calmly in evacuating instead of behaving in an instinctive manner?


We understand instinctive behavior.
We understand how people will behave when exposed to certain stimuli. Panic, Anger, Lust, Greed, racial tensions, on and on...

We understand these instinctive behaviors and the response that ill usually result, and that is why you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded theater despite your 2nd amendment rights.


Now, since we already know how the Muslims will behave when their prophet is ridicule due to past incidents, is is really a Free Speech issue when we know the outcome will be deadly.

I think the producers of this movie knew that the outcome would be deadly for someone and that is why I think they should be held liable, criminally and financially.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9897684

Yelling fire in a crowed theater, you are instructing people to do a dangerous act (run for the exits)or their life is in danger. This is like killing someone who said your mother wore combat boots.(No more like your mother wore combat boots and you never seen your mother).
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Yelling fire in a crowed theater, you are instructing people to do a dangerous act (run for the exits)
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how is yelling fire = "instructing people to do a dangerous act"

do you actually understand the meaning of "instructing"
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Geeezzzzzzzzzzz

How many religions in this world have been insulted over the years.

Humor

this is a comedy ? right?

What is wrong with a culture that can't laugh at itself but has

to cause mass hysteria and killing?

Is this the sign of a culture that has disintegrated into psychopathy?

Professionals say one of the signs of a psychopath is the inability to find humor or understand humor.
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Geeezzzzzzzzzzz

How many religions in this world have been insulted over the years.

Humor

this is a comedy ? right?

What is wrong with a culture that can't laugh at itself but has

to cause mass hysteria and killing?

Is this the sign of a culture that has disintegrated into psychopathy?

Professionals say one of the signs of a psychopath is the inability to find humor or understand humor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23487446


Its worse than that. Its a concerted and co-ordinated effort between the Left and Islam to ensure no one ever dares criticize Islam. Either a beheading or jail time for you if you dare do so!
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Geeezzzzzzzzzzz

How many religions in this world have been insulted over the years.

Humor

this is a comedy ? right?

What is wrong with a culture that can't laugh at itself but has

to cause mass hysteria and killing?

Is this the sign of a culture that has disintegrated into psychopathy?

Professionals say one of the signs of a psychopath is the inability to find humor or understand humor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23487446


Its worse than that. Its a concerted and co-ordinated effort between the Left and Islam to ensure no one ever dares criticize Islam. Either a beheading or jail time for you if you dare do so!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23682433

Why?

What is it about islam ?
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Yup. Part of a false flag operation. My thoughts exactly. This is why the Feds are tracking him down to see what he knows. The Israelis are very smart. Obama doesn't want to get the U.S. involved in a war against Iran, especially before the election, but Israel doesn't have the forces to decisively take out Iran alone. There is only one country that does. Muslims are so stupid that they are taking the bait hook line and sinker. The video is crudely made on purpose for the reasons of plausible deniablity. It's pretty damn brilliant.

I'll bet he's an Israeli agent.
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Where is this movie????????? I want to see how bad it really is!!!!!!

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If we Create an October Surprise in September. We Won't Need an Election. We Helped the Muslim Brotherhood, Now They'll Help Us...

No one will suspect us. We can make it look like its that Muslim Video and those extremists in the middle east.

And you get to stay in the white house.

Create a crisis, with some help from our friends, making it unsafe to change presidents.

Muslims refuse to work with anyone but Obama...

Obama must stay in the WH?

Well do you think its beyond the scope of reality, what will people do to stay in power?
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Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a man the Associated Press tracked down on Wednesday, has been identified by U.S. federal authorities as the key figure behind the incendiaryInnocence Of Muslims, the news agency reports, citing a federal law enforcement official. The unidentified source said Nakoula was connected to the persona of Sam Bacile. A man calling himself Sam Bacile initially claimed to be the writer and director of the film, but doubts have surfaced regarding his identity.

The U.S. government is tracking down a filmmaker for making a video that criticizes Islam.

[link to www.breitbart.com]

Not only doesn't our president like our constitution, neither do the feds. since when is it against the law to make a film that may or may not have inaccuracies? if that were the case why isn't michael moore in prison, living off his own fat?
 Quoting: Davvi


i heard this on the radio the other day and I thought wtf do the feds have to do with this man and his movie! they have no right to detain him, OR even question him! on what grounds? it's a slippery slope this, "questioning" business





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