So fucking glad I don't have kids. Just sayin.

So you feel you have made a mistake and you have to tell the whole world about it to make yourself feel better. I'm sorry to hear you feel your bloodline must die off. You are the last of your kind and choosing to end it is a big decision. You will kill off your father's and grandfather's and great grandfather's hard work on the bloodline. Lets just hope you don't have explain to them in the afterlife how you were just to fucking lazy to keep the bloodline going!

I think a lot of people who have no kids are just scared, so they come up with these rationalizations about why having kids sucks. And it is scary having kids, as you are now responsible, completely, for other human beings.

I guess it's like people who can't bring themselves to move out of mom and dads house; it's just too scary.

Most new experiences are scary, but usually well worth having the experience, in the long run.

Just my 2 cents.

In his defense, I doubt that will be a concern in the afterlife.

Blood and DNA likely isn't a factor there.

Ive heard it said that having kids does not bring purpose to life but rather brings imperative.

Or as stressed rather Steve Martin put it in the movie Parethood: "My whole life is 'have to.'"

The bottom line is this: if you do have kids, they become a reflection of who you are as a parent and as a person. Outside influences are marginal compared to the influence of a parent, unless the parent relies on others to raise their kids for them. Either way, a parent has a lot to do with how a child turns out.

I'd be lost without my kids.
Yes they can be a pain in the arse sometimes but then so was I when I was growing up. The vast majority of the time though they're an absolute delight to be around.

When I was younger I used to think that I didn't want kids, in fact I still sort of thought that right up until the birth of my daughter! lol. That all changed in the blink of an eye though when I first saw her.

I wouldn't change anything now though.
Kids are far more intelligent than adults (in a non-biased way ) and I truly believe that I learn just as much from them as they do from me.

I love my children. Yet, people like you think that your self-centered lives are more important than theirs or anyone elses. And so, you treat parents and children of all sorts like we've dirt.

What's worst is when you then go on to have a child yourself, you teach that child to be mean and hateful to others the way you once were and the cycle gos..on...and...on

That's why some parents look like they struggle because of stupid, hateful people like you as they work to hold real hope and love for the future together.

So blank off and go LIVE your 'happy' childless life.

I agree - kids are able to view the world without judgment or bias, and they often show us the error in our ways...

They are always so bitter, aren't they? And full of irrelevant personal attacks and shaming tactics ("mommies basement" etc.).

In a formal debate, personal attacks mean you've lost.

There have been a few rational, non-frothing comments from the parents on this thread, to be fair. But some of these comments I think doth protest too much.

I think those attacks are very telling of what kind of parent they are, and what kind of child they are raising.

I was the stupid girl that bugged her friends about having children. Of course, now I understand why they never wanted to settle down and have kids. Although, I can't imagine life without my kids now, I love them so much it hurts! It would be so different without them, and I understand that sometimes it's a good thing. It's different from what path I chose, but that doesn't mean any of us are right and wrong.

You see, I wanted a family forever(since I can remember). I wanted a dozen kids. So naturally I got knocked up at 16, and we're still together now(11 years).

Just recently though, I had to have an emergency hysterectomy. I had uterine cancer, so now it all became clear to me. I might have mourned the loss of future kids, but I'm already so blessed to have my three little ones. It would have devastated me to never have children. So I'm incredibly glad that I made all those "mistakes" early on.

Kids are hard work, they are awesome and terrible all on their own. But with each child, my love grew and multiplied with every awesome and horrible things they did. I also realize that kids just aren't for everyone. More power to those that definitely don't want kids, but I can only relate to those that choose to have children.

Having children is wonderful, exhausting, but also entirely fulfilling (to me).

I always enjoy your posts on this board, by the way.

Some people are really into children and love and enjoy them dearly.Others just arent.My sons do not want children and I have always stressed to them to use protection or have a vasectomy because you cant depend on the other person.Thats why a lot of unplanned children are in the world.Anytime a woman has a child that wasnt planned between the man and woman the man is going to resent it even of he accepts it and becomes a good and responsible father.

Raising a child lasts a lifetime really and it shouldnt just happen.If a person truly feels as you do OP they should make certain they dont have an unplanned child.Its not fair to the child either to be unwanted.

Another responsible-sounding non-hating parent. Cheers.

Well I am not gay and I dont wish to try it.Would that mean I should try it just to see if I want to be gay.
Some people arent meant to be parents and if they feel like OP they shouldnt have children.Its the responsible thing to do if you dont want kids then they wont receive the love and care they need.

yes , pretty much. it gives you something to live for in the long run... it's a pretty secure / stable commitment, but also a very demanding one that could backfire immensely. It runs out of your control quite easily.

I prefer to take small commitments according to my own rythm, short-lived ones. This way , even if I run into trouble, the contract is usually short and with few attachments. Like a freelance artist, I choose my client, the type of work, the duration and the price. With marriage, well, you can't choose much, the duration might be forever, and the price is really high.



That might play a part AC 23756283, however I have to say that there are bigger responsibilities than having kids, as for example taking up the challenge of finding a higher purpose to your life, one that goes beyond the cultural DNA programming -- not for the weak. It requires a great deal of courage to challenge the status quo of social standards.

Not knowing what course to take for your life is far more scary than having kids IMO. I want to have responsibilities, but I also want to be able to choose which ones. Having kids is mostly for those who wish to release the burden of choice, self-governance, self-responsibility and individualism.

The man that seeks to form a family is basically waving his freedom / creativity in exchange of a predictable / secure lifestyle backed up by the cultural system. The estate / government becomes his new womb and his wife becomes his new mother, and his children become his little brothers. In truth such man has never left his mother's womb.

And yet, even the childless man is looking for a replacement womb; the difference being that he has greater freedom to enjoy his journey, while the family man gets slowed down by children/women among other things.

I agree with you, but it doesn't change the fact that it is unfair to cast judgment on a certain lifestyle if you have never lived it yourself.

Eat it and like it!

Get real.As much reproducing as goes on no one is going to die out.He probably has more than enough family to make up for the kids he dont wish to have.
There are a lot of people in this world that should never have had kids.No one is obligated to have children and they sure as hell shouldnt have them if they dont want them.

I realize the OP is a little troll-ish and snarky in tone.

Just seems to me that most of the parents I know really aren't very happy and live stressful, desperate lives. They are also easy to manipulate because of the need to care for their kids: a lot work miserable jobs because they have to, not because that want to, for example. Obviously this isn't the case for every parent, but seems to be so for most. And when I consider the odds, I really do feel relief that I didn't play that particular roulette wheel.

It was probably easier 30 years ago.

A parent can never express regret over having children, that would make for one weird parent - offspring relationship.

So they just ride it out for the rest of their lives.

Might I add, I so fucking glad I don't have a wife, or said children with her


nagging cunt, hated my family, ruined my life.


seen too many good men lose 80% of their salary to support the ex wife.
meanwhile she's banging the pool boy.

Children are terrible, I'll never ever have one. If I wasn't so terrified of peeing blood for two months like what happened with my friend, I would have got a vasectomy by now.

Sounds like your friend should find a new doctor...

Another old tired liberal that aborted all his/her children. You reap what you sow. You get a big fat zero. Your name and history dies with you. bye bye.....

having kids is like signing the social contract with your blood.

but when you don't have kids, you still have some degree of control to back out from the contract, or change it.

that is how I see it.

Really, isn't religion suppose to teach you not to judge others? An opinion is an opinion, let it be hahah!

Correct, since biology existence is about absorb other biologic life.
Humans is just the higher predators in the foodchain!