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More sniper ammunition being ordered by DHS. Who are the targets? (Answer - Look in the Mirror)

 
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More sniper ammunition being ordered by DHS. Who are the targets? (Answer - Look in the Mirror)
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Surprise! The DHS Immigration and Customs Enforcement have requested more ammunition.

However, it is the type of ammunition and not necessarily the quantity that is troubling.

First on the agenda is the .223 rifle ammunition. Just a measly 40 million rounds in the first year, and another 160 million rounds in the following four years. 200,00 million rounds in total. You know, just enough to make you cringe thinking that some government office that is not military has more ammunition than you do.

The .223 caliber round is a decent hunting round, but those are not the rounds to be concerned about.

The .308 rounds should have you a bit concerned. Quite a bit concerned.

Why the .308? Because the same folks at DHS think they need two types of .308 caliber rounds. Blank ammunition and 168 grain hollow point boat tail ammunition.

The blank ammunition will be spread to five different locations in the American south east and in Puerto Rico. The regular ammunition will be spread all over the US in a variety of places.

Blank ammunition? Why blank ammunition?

Well, as it turns out blank ammunition is fantastic for putting on a show. Blank ammunition is used in theatrics (hmmm?) but also is used to help teach new shooters to develop trigger and breathing control.

Nevertheless, have no fear; DHS only needs 25,000 rounds to develop good sniper skills.

Because, they have also ordered 176,000 rounds of the .308 caliber hollow point boat tail (HPBT) rounds.

Boat tail ammunition is incredibly accurate ammunition. From the legal opinion from the US Navy JAG in support of using hollow point ammunition:

Read more: [link to www.activistpost.com]

...........verysad
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176,000 is a good day at some ranges...

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Re: More sniper ammunition being ordered by DHS. Who are the targets? (Answer - Look in the Mirror)
176,000 is a good day at some ranges...

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That's very lame.. A second grader can scratch his head and say.. Wow! why all the practicing..
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Look at all the bomb threats from Al-Queda today -- pretty obvious what the gov is preparing for. This is to protect us from the Muzzies.
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Look at all the bomb threats from Al-Queda today -- pretty obvious what the gov is preparing for. This is to protect us from the Muzzies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


I respect your comment.. But I have to disagree.. What's happening today is the creation of another boogie man.. (Fear)

Divide and conquer....

The American people are the target... I can promise you that..

Don't buy into this Muzzies thing.. It's a hoax...
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168gr HP .308 is hardly sniper ammo, most long range .308 is more like 190gr FMJ.

Best round ever.

Such fear mongering, the government needs all the ammo they can get, whose side are you on anyway?
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Re: More sniper ammunition being ordered by DHS. Who are the targets? (Answer - Look in the Mirror)
168gr HP .308 is hardly sniper ammo, most long range .308 is more like 190gr FMJ.

Best round ever.

Such fear mongering, the government needs all the ammo they can get, whose side are you on anyway?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23777358


I myself is on the side of the citizens..

Question to you.. Do you trust your government?
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176,000 is a good day at some ranges...

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 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


That's very lame.. A second grader can scratch his head and say.. Wow! why all the practicing..
 Quoting: NoSilence


You've never actually fired a gun, have you...

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.308...Best round ever.

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I'm old school...

I prefer 'aught six'...
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Re: More sniper ammunition being ordered by DHS. Who are the targets? (Answer - Look in the Mirror)
176,000 is a good day at some ranges...

cruise
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


That's very lame.. A second grader can scratch his head and say.. Wow! why all the practicing..
 Quoting: NoSilence


You've never actually fired a gun, have you...

chuckle
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One and a half billion round ordered by DHS..

Don't be so trusting...
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
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One and a half billion round ordered by DHS..

Don't be so trusting...
 Quoting: NoSilence


Who the fuck said I am "trusting"?

rolleyes

I simply understand that this is nothing new, and you ignored the last umpteen billion rounds...

Suddenly, because some dumbass tells you there is an issue, you go off spouting ignorant gibberish...

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One and a half billion round ordered by DHS..

Don't be so trusting...
 Quoting: NoSilence


Who the fuck said I am "trusting"?

rolleyes

I simply understand that this is nothing new, and you ignored the last umpteen billion rounds...

Suddenly, because some dumbass tells you there is an issue, you go off spouting ignorant gibberish...

tool
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Are you mad?

I posted a legit article..

Your saying there's nothing to the purchase of large amounts of ammo? Like I said.. I appreciate your opinion...
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
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Are you mad?
 Quoting: NoSilence


Yah...That's it...

cruise

I posted a legit article..
 Quoting: NoSilence


You posted a blog opinion by some dude named "James Smith"...

Your saying there's nothing to the purchase of large amounts of ammo? Like I said.. I appreciate your opinion...
 Quoting: NoSilence


There's a lot to the procurement of ammo...It has happened ever since we formed a government...

Why it suddenly is a big deal to you is the amusing aspect to me...
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Re: More sniper ammunition being ordered by DHS. Who are the targets? (Answer - Look in the Mirror)
Obama’s Private Army Hidden In Plain Sight
Posted on March 29, 2012

Four thousand NEW IRS ‘enforcement’ agents.
by Jared Law [link to www.the912project.us]

In addition to the untold thousands of armed ‘Law Enforcement Officers’ outside of the U.S. Armed Forces, from the EPA’s jack-booted thugs, to excess IRS ‘enforcement’ agents, to the sixty-five law enforcement organizations within the Executive Branch of the federal government outside of the Dep’t of Homeland Security and the U.S. Armed Forces, already added since the Barack Hussein Obama Regime began their occupation of the White House and the rest of the federal government’s executive branch apparatus, the sheer number of Obama’s private army is simply staggering…

And the left has snuck them all into the mix right under our noses, slowly, over time, with few, if any of us, noticing.

If you’re not familiar with that of which I speak, consider the following ‘law enforcement agencies’ within the Executive branch of the federal government, outside of DHS and the U.S. Armed Forces (some of them do have legitimate functions, such as the FBI and the CIASPS, but the SIGTARP? USFSLEI? REALLY?):

Department of Agriculture (USDA):
Office of Inspector General (USDAOIG)
U.S. Forest Service Law Enforcement and Investigations (USFSLEI)

Department of Commerce (DOC):
National Institute of Standards and Technology Police (NIST Police)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries Office for Law Enforcement (OLE)
Department of Commerce Office of Inspector General (DOCOIG)

Department of Education (DOED):
Office of the Inspector General (EDOIG)

Department of Energy (DOE):
Office of Inspector General (DOEOIG)
Office of Health, Safety and Security (DOEHSS)

Department of Health and Human Services (HHS):
Office of Criminal Investigations (OCI)
National Institutes of Health Police (NIH Police)
Office of Inspector General (HHSOIG)

Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD):
Office of Inspector General (HUD/OIG)
Protective Service Division (HUDPSD)

Department of the Interior (USDI):
Bureau of Indian Affairs Police (BIA Police)
Bureau of Land Management Office of Law Enforcement (BLM Rangers and Special Agents)
Bureau of Reclamation Office of Law Enforcement (BOR Rangers)
Hoover Dam Police aka Bureau of Reclamation Police
Division of Law Enforcement, Security and Emergency Services (Law Enforcement Rangers)
United States Park Police
Office of Inspector General (DOIOIG)
Office of Law Enforcement
Division of Refuge Law Enforcement

Department of Justice (USDOJ):
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF)
United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) (since 1973)
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Federal Bureau of Investigation Police (FBI Police)
Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP)
Office of Inspector General (DOJOIG)
United States Marshals Service (USMS)

Department of Labor (DOL):
Office of Inspector General (DOLOIG)

Department of State (DOS):
Diplomatic Security Service (DSS)
Office of Inspector General (SDOIG)

Department of Transportation (USDOT):
Office of Inspector General (DOTOIG)

Department of the Treasury:
Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police (BEP Police)
Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI)
Office of Inspector General (TREASOIG)
Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA)
United States Mint Police (USMP)
Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP)

Department of Veterans Affairs (VA):
Office of Inspector General (VAOIG)
Veterans Affairs Police

Independent Agencies and Quasi-official Corporations:
Central Intelligence Agency Security Protective Service (CIASPS)
United States Environmental Protection Agency Criminal Investigation Division (EPACID)
United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of Inspector General (EPAOIG)
National Aeronautics and Space Administration Office of Inspector General (NASAOIG)
NASA Security Services (NASASS)
Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Office of Inspector General (NRCOIG)
Office of Personnel Management, Office of Inspector General (OPMOIG)
Railroad Retirement Board, Office of Inspector General (RRBOIG)
Small Business Administration, Office of Inspector General (SBAOIG)
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of Inspector General (FDICOIG)
General Services Administration, Office of Inspector General (GSAOIG)
Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General (SSAOIG)
USPS Office of Inspector General (USPSOIG)
United States Postal Inspection Service (USPIS)
U.S. Postal Police
Smithsonian Institution Office of Protection Services (SI)
Smithsonian Institution National Zoological Park Police (NZPP)
Smithsonian Institution Office of the Inspector General (OIG)
Amtrak Office of Inspector General
Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special Operations (OSSSO)
Amtrak Police
Federal Reserve Bank: Federal Reserve Police
Tennessee Valley Authority Office of Inspector General (TVAOIG)
Tennessee Valley Authority Police (TVAP)
United States Agency for International Development, Office of Inspector General (AIDOIG)

UNTIL I DID THE RESEARCH FOR THIS ARTICLE, I had no idea of the size of the private army that Obama ALREADY HAS at his disposal.

[link to a12iggymom.wordpress.com]

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I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.-Thomas Jefferson


...............hf
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I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.-Thomas Jefferson


...............hf
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No argument there...
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I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.-Thomas Jefferson


...............hf
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No argument there...
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The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.-Thomas Jefferson
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168gr HP .308 is hardly sniper ammo, most long range .308 is more like 190gr FMJ.

Best round ever.

Such fear mongering, the government needs all the ammo they can get, whose side are you on anyway?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23777358


What you talkin bout willis. Sierra MatchKing 168-grain match grade boat tail is HIGHLY regarded as one of the best long range rounds in 308 / 7.62.
More grain in the bullet means less grain of powder in the cartridge. Heavy round, less powder.

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168gr HP .308 is hardly sniper ammo, most long range .308 is more like 190gr FMJ.

Best round ever.

Such fear mongering, the government needs all the ammo they can get, whose side are you on anyway?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23777358


What you talkin bout willis. Sierra MatchKing 168-grain match grade boat tail is HIGHLY regarded as one of the best long range rounds in 308 / 7.62.
More grain in the bullet means less grain of powder in the cartridge. Heavy round, less powder.
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I had a 308 German Mouser.. It was a 7mm bored to a 308.. I love that gun... it was my all time rifle...hf
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Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. -Thomas Jefferson

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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764. That was 230 years ago. -Thomas Jefferson

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.-Thomas Jefferson

.............hf
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"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson


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"The constitutions of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves;
that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property and freedom
of the press." Thomas Jefferson


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5stars bump
Here is a list of 8 things to look for when trying to identify false flag psychological operations.
1. Staged events usually receive immediate national news coverage
2. There is a political agenda behind the coverage (gun control)
3. The incident inspires intense emotions (Dead kids)
4. Initial media reports conflict eyewitness accounts
5. No dead bodies are shown to the public
6. Celebrities are used to influence the public
7. Presence of mainstream media manipulation tactics
8. The Federal Government give attention to a local story

Question Everything.

When any institution is infiltrated by liberals, that institution no longer serves it's original purpose and instead becomes a social engineering vehicle to push a far left fascist agenda. Liberty and liberals are like oil and water.
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I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.-Thomas Jefferson


...............hf
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No argument there...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Thanks SnakeAirlines... It was nice having a chat with you..

I'm very concerned as you, on the direction of our country..

One thing I want to say is don't let your guard down..

Prepare and then prepare again...

Americans can't comprehend bad times...

It's not in there wildest comprehension....

The TV glazes their mental capacity with the real dangers.. Like a security blanket..hf
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...............hf
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No argument there...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Thanks SnakeAirlines... It was nice having a chat with you..

I'm very concerned as you, on the direction of our country..

One thing I want to say is don't let your guard down..

Prepare and then prepare again...

Americans can't comprehend bad times...

It's not in there wildest comprehension....

The TV glazes their mental capacity with the real dangers.. Like a security blanket..hf
 Quoting: NoSilence


I agree that the country is headed wrong, but I am not worried about goobermint ammo procurements...
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wow no 7.62 x 39! what will all the SKS,AK-47 jerks use to fight back with? the Govt gonna be dumping alot of rounds on you with your 500 rounds of steel cased shit box ammo. BIG Motha F&^ING tactical error there boys. sell those shitboxes quick.
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I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.-Thomas Jefferson


...............hf
 Quoting: NoSilence


No argument there...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Thanks SnakeAirlines... It was nice having a chat with you..

I'm very concerned as you, on the direction of our country..

One thing I want to say is don't let your guard down..

Prepare and then prepare again...

Americans can't comprehend bad times...

It's not in there wildest comprehension....

The TV glazes their mental capacity with the real dangers.. Like a security blanket..hf
 Quoting: NoSilence


I agree that the country is headed wrong, but I am not worried about goobermint ammo procurements...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines

Your a Brother...

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Thanks for the Pin....hfhfhf
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Regardless if its 150, 168 or 198 grain, its a hard hitting long range round made for sniper rifles and main battle rifles.

Ordering all that hollow point is just plain stupid. In a combat situation, after the first few rounds have been fired, everyone left standing seeks cover. Hollow point doesn't penetrate cover as well as military ball ammo.

If this purchase was meant for sniping they would most likely load military ball ammo and top the mag off with a couple of hollow point rounds. So, for every hollow point round ordered they should be ordering 10 rounds of ball ammo.

Who ever is in charge of ordering this stuff isn't very smart. But I agree with what others have stated. These agencies do not need all this ammo. They're obviously planning for war. But they're forgetting you can't fight a war with 9 to 5 people. Its a 24 hour business so I'm not sure who they think they're turning into an army.

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